Quoted message said:From: Tom Kunich ([email hidden])
Subject: Re: Lift Up The Rock....
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Date: 2004-05-06 15:16:22 PST"Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
<dod.miltr20040504Open ↗
secdef1423.html>Don Rumsfeld: "I think that -- I'm not a lawyer. My
impression is
that what
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:has been charged thus far is abuse, which I believe
technically is different from torture." (interruption) "I
don't know if it is
correct to
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:say what you just said, that torture has taken place,
or that
there's been
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:a conviction for torture. And therefore I'm not going to
address
the
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:torture word."
Right Howard, slowly torturing someone's 5 year old to
death in front
of
Quoted message said:them isn't torture, but taking pictures of them in
insulting poses
is.
Tom Kunich knows everything.
the excerpt below is pasted in from the following article:
sfexaminer.com061004b iraqOpen ↗
CA Guardsman alleges detainee abuse in Iraq Published on
Thursday, June 10, 2004
A California National Guardsman says three fellow soldiers
brazenly abused detainees during interrogation sessions in
an Iraqi police station, threatening them with guns,
sticking lit cigarettes in their ears and choking them until
they collapsed.
Sgt. Greg Ford said he repeatedly had to revive prisoners
who had passed out, and once saw a soldier stand on the back
of a handcuffed detainee's neck and pull his arms until they
popped out of their sockets.
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