Quoted message said:From: Tom Kunich ([email hidden])
Subject: Re: Lift Up The Rock....
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Date: 2004-05-06 15:16:22 PST"Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2004/tr20040504-secdef1423.html>Don Rumsfeld: "I think that -- I'm not a lawyer. My impression is
that what
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:has been charged thus far is abuse, which I believe technically is
different from torture." (interruption) "I don't know if it is
correct to
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:say what you just said, that torture has taken place, or that
there's been
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:a conviction for torture. And therefore I'm not going to address
the
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:torture word."
Right Howard, slowly torturing someone's 5 year old to death in front
of
Quoted message said:them isn't torture, but taking pictures of them in insulting poses
is.
Tom Kunich knows everything.
the excerpt below is pasted in from the following article:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/article/index.cfm/i/061004b_iraq
CA Guardsman alleges detainee abuse in Iraq
Published on Thursday, June 10, 2004
A California National Guardsman says three fellow soldiers brazenly
abused detainees during interrogation sessions in an Iraqi police
station, threatening them with guns, sticking lit cigarettes in their
ears and choking them until they collapsed.
Sgt. Greg Ford said he repeatedly had to revive prisoners who had
passed out, and once saw a soldier stand on the back of a handcuffed
detainee's neck and pull his arms until they popped out of their
sockets.
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