knee/leg pain

Hey Niteynite - There are no simple answers to knee pain and most who respond will have a different
take on this. Typically, pain in front of knee means your seat is too close. Pain behind knee might
mean that your seat is too far away. How long has it taken you to ride your first 500 miles? I'm
asking because your groin pain sounds like an overuse injury and I suspect you are also feeling it
behind your knee because some of the big leg muscles that extend the hip and knee attach in both
areas. Recumbents are deceiving - it is easy to push yourself to ride lots since the position is so
comfortable, especially when you are generally deconditioned. Suggestions: 1) check distance to
pedals and adjust so that your heel reaches the pedal with your leg extended and your butt back in
the seat. 2) Is your groin pain worst with maximum hip flexion on your pedal return or extension
when your leg is straightest? Adjust your seat back to minimize your pain range. Probably more
upright will help given your low bottom bracket bike. 3) Short rides, easy warm up, spin don't mash,
ice to whatever hurts when done to decrease swelling. Easy does it until pain disappears, then
gradually increase ride duration and intensity. 4) Avoid radical changes in your pedal biomechanics
(extenders or clipless) until your pain resolves. Caveat - Your complaints could stem from pain
originating in your hip and radiating south. If tha is the case, you'll need hands on evaluation and
help. As with all well intentioned usenet advice, your mileage will definitely vary so take all of
this with a grain of salt. But go easy. And hopefully someone else can comment on stretching. Jon
Shinefeld Philadelphia, PA

"Niteynite1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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OK, here's my story and if it sounds familiar, it's because I'm posting

this on

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several recumbent boards:

I am riding an Easyracers EZ SC-1 (heavy). For the first 500 miles, my

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physical complaint was a little numbness around the tailbone, relieved by stopping and walking
around for just a couple of minutes every 10-12

miles.

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The day after I passed 500 miles, I encountered a new problem. I was in

the

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first mile of a ride on Sunday, Oct. 5, when I felt a little muscle twinge

in

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my left leg, just below the groin. I rode on, figuring I would lose it as

I

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warmed up. Before I reached my 20-mile mark and the turnaround of my

planned

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40-miler, the discomfort had spread to the inside back of my left knee. Whenever I got off and
walked a few minutes (see dead butt problem above),

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felt no problem, only when I pedaled.

After finishing the 40-miler, I was a little sore in that leg for a day or

two.

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A combination of work schedule, weather and traveling meant I did not get

back

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on the bike until today, Thursday, Oct. 16. Within two miles, I was

feeling the

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dull pain behind my knee again. I rode 20 today and the pain never went

away,

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but it never got too bad, either.

Any ideas and/or suggestions? I should mention the bike is still stock. I

have

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not changed anything, including not yet taking the clipless pedals off my

road

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bike and putting them on the 'bent.Also, I'm 57, 5-9 and pretty

overweight.

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This may or may not have any relevance here, but I see comments about

pedal

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extenders and knee pain. Is this the kind of knee pain some have

experienced

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and alleviated with extenders? I know nothing about them and how they

work, but

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remembered that as I was riding today. Since I haven't put on the clipless pedals, I am free to
move my feet around the pedals and tried pedaling

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outside edges of the pedals (i.e., as if I had extenders) and felt no difference in the pain.

The pain is uncomfortable, but tolerable. It has not been sharp, and feels

deep

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within the leg. Since I was able to keep riding for 40 miles with it the

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time, it is obviously not incapacitating.

Any/all suggestions appreciated.

Thanks

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Suggestions: 1) check distance to pedals and adjust so that your heel reaches the pedal with your
leg extended and your butt back in the seat.

I am just learning this stuff, and still consider myself a newbie (1
1/2 years bent). I'm 53 yo, well marbled, 5'9", ride an R40 SWB.

I wanted to very tentatively add to Jon Shinefeld's very useful previous msg; Consider his suggested
adjustment of pedal distance a "starting place". It will be harder to know if it works for you since
you are already experiencing pain, but I'd suggest ride it that way a while, long enough to get
comfortable with it. Do you now have a feeling that it should be longer? Shorter? Do you find
yourself sliding a tiny bit forward in the seat while pedaling? Maybe you need a shorter pedal
distance. Only change it by a tiny bit each time, like 1/8", or
2/16", then give it a chance. Put a hundred or so miles on it, then re-evaluate.