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  1. Sheldon said:


    Dave Smith said:
    Don Wiss said:

    >But for all kitchen kutting nothing beats a sharp knife

    Sorry Sheldon. Shears do better for some tasks. While I no longer


    eat boil

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in bag foods (they still produce them don't they?) I'd much prefer


    using

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    shears to open the hot things.

    Figures someone named Wiss would be pushing shears...

    Quoted message said:

    It's a snap to snip the backbone out of a chicken or to cut down


    through the

    Quoted message said:

    breast bone and cartilage with a good pair of kitchen shears.Having


    done it

    Quoted message said:

    with knives, crummy shears and good shears, the shears win hands


    down.

    That's because you haven't a clue how to use a knife... I've never yet
    seen a butcher shop with shears... kitchen shears were developed
    *specifically* for those who really don't belong in kitchens. You
    can't use a knife and probably need your mommy to tie your shoes too.

    Sheldon

    Butcher shops normally use a bandsaw to split chickens. The mighty
    Sheldon has spoken...hereto and henceforth no one shall use shears for
    cutting anything in a kitchen.

  2. Allan Matthews said:
    Sheldon said:


    Dave Smith said:

    Don Wiss wrote:

    > >But for all kitchen kutting nothing beats a sharp knife
    >
    > Sorry Sheldon. Shears do better for some tasks. While I no


    longer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    eat boil

    Quoted message said:

    > in bag foods (they still produce them don't they?) I'd much


    prefer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    using

    Quoted message said:

    > shears to open the hot things.

    Figures someone named Wiss would be pushing shears...

    Quoted message said:

    It's a snap to snip the backbone out of a chicken or to cut down


    through the

    Quoted message said:

    breast bone and cartilage with a good pair of kitchen


    shears.Having

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    done it

    Quoted message said:

    with knives, crummy shears and good shears, the shears win hands


    down.

    That's because you haven't a clue how to use a knife... I've never


    yet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seen a butcher shop with shears... kitchen shears were developed
    *specifically* for those who really don't belong in kitchens. You
    can't use a knife and probably need your mommy to tie your shoes


    too.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sheldon

    Butcher shops normally use a bandsaw to split chickens. The mighty
    Sheldon has spoken...hereto and henceforth no one shall use shears


    for

    Quoted message said:

    cutting anything in a kitchen.

    Not true. Butchers typically disjoint fowl with a cleaver. The ONLY
    time butchers will put a band saw to fowl is when some jerk-off
    imbecile (Allen Mathews) requests their frozen turkey be bisected.

    Sheldon

  3. Sheldon said:


    Allan Matthews said:
    Sheldon said:


    Dave Smith wrote:
    > Don Wiss wrote:
    >
    > > >But for all kitchen kutting nothing beats a sharp knife
    > >
    > > Sorry Sheldon. Shears do better for some tasks. While I no


    longer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    eat boil
    > > in bag foods (they still produce them don't they?) I'd much


    prefer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    using
    > > shears to open the hot things.

    Figures someone named Wiss would be pushing shears...

    > It's a snap to snip the backbone out of a chicken or to cut down
    through the
    > breast bone and cartilage with a good pair of kitchen


    shears.Having

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    done it
    > with knives, crummy shears and good shears, the shears win hands
    down.

    That's because you haven't a clue how to use a knife... I've never


    yet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seen a butcher shop with shears... kitchen shears were developed
    *specifically* for those who really don't belong in kitchens. You
    can't use a knife and probably need your mommy to tie your shoes


    too.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sheldon

    Butcher shops normally use a bandsaw to split chickens. The mighty
    Sheldon has spoken...hereto and henceforth no one shall use shears


    for

    Quoted message said:

    cutting anything in a kitchen.

    Not true. Butchers typically disjoint fowl with a cleaver. The ONLY
    time butchers will put a band saw to fowl is when some jerk-off
    imbecile (Allen Mathews) requests their frozen turkey be bisected.

    Sheldon

    Read my post carefully, if you can read....I said split...not
    disjointed. I have watched dozens of chickens being split with a
    bandsaw. I have helped barbeque 700 chickens at a time and I know
    whereof I speak.
    Allan

  4. Sheldon said:


    Allan Matthews said:
    Sheldon said:


    Dave Smith wrote:
    > Don Wiss wrote:
    >
    > > >But for all kitchen kutting nothing beats a sharp knife
    > >
    > > Sorry Sheldon. Shears do better for some tasks. While I no


    longer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    eat boil
    > > in bag foods (they still produce them don't they?) I'd much


    prefer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    using
    > > shears to open the hot things.

    Figures someone named Wiss would be pushing shears...

    > It's a snap to snip the backbone out of a chicken or to cut down
    through the
    > breast bone and cartilage with a good pair of kitchen


    shears.Having

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    done it
    > with knives, crummy shears and good shears, the shears win hands
    down.

    That's because you haven't a clue how to use a knife... I've never


    yet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seen a butcher shop with shears... kitchen shears were developed
    *specifically* for those who really don't belong in kitchens. You
    can't use a knife and probably need your mommy to tie your shoes


    too.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sheldon

    Butcher shops normally use a bandsaw to split chickens. The mighty
    Sheldon has spoken...hereto and henceforth no one shall use shears


    for

    Quoted message said:

    cutting anything in a kitchen.

    Not true. Butchers typically disjoint fowl with a cleaver. The ONLY
    time butchers will put a band saw to fowl is when some jerk-off
    imbecile (Allen Mathews) requests their frozen turkey be bisected.

    Sheldon

    Read my post carefully, if you can read....I said split...not
    disjointed. I have watched dozens of chickens being split with a
    bandsaw. I have helped barbeque 700 chickens at a time and I know
    whereof I speak.
    Allan

  5. Dee Randall said:

    "Damsel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Serendipity said:

    I find kitchen shears quite handy but likely not for the reason they
    were intended. I use them for opening packaging like bacon, hams, and
    turkeys that have that darn heavy shrink packaging.

    That's what I use them for, too. I've never cut food with them. It would
    never occur to me. Well, maybe now.

    Would not the plastic heavy shrink packaging damage your meat shears beyond
    use? Also they look pretty dangerous to use this way. One jab -- ouch!

    The more I think on this ... I don't know what the intended use for my
    shears is. And I was having a senior moment when I said that mine are OXO.
    The ones I have came in a block along with a cheapo set of Sabatier knives.

    I'll probably eventually spring for a pair that I know are for cutting
    meat. The more I read the arguments in this tread, the more dedicated I'm
    becoming to cutting up raw meat with a pair of scissors. <EG>

    Carol
    --
    CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY
    United States:
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    International:
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  6. Allan *PINHEAD* Matthews said:
    Sheldon said:


    Allan *PINHEAD* Matthews said:

    On 17 May 2005 06:09:52 -0700, "Sheldon" <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    >
    >Dave Smith wrote:
    >> Don Wiss wrote:
    >>
    >> > >But for all kitchen kutting nothing beats a sharp knife
    >> >
    >> > Sorry Sheldon. Shears do better for some tasks. While I no


    longer

    Quoted message said:

    >eat boil
    >> > in bag foods (they still produce them don't they?) I'd much


    prefer

    Quoted message said:

    >using
    >> > shears to open the hot things.
    >
    >Figures someone named Wiss would be pushing shears...
    >
    >> It's a snap to snip the backbone out of a chicken or to cut


    down

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >through the
    >> breast bone and cartilage with a good pair of kitchen


    shears.Having

    Quoted message said:

    >done it
    >> with knives, crummy shears and good shears, the shears win


    hands

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >down.
    >
    >That's because you haven't a clue how to use a knife... I've


    never

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    yet

    Quoted message said:

    >seen a butcher shop with shears... kitchen shears were developed
    >*specifically* for those who really don't belong in kitchens.


    You

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >can't use a knife and probably need your mommy to tie your shoes


    too.

    Quoted message said:

    >
    >Sheldon

    Butcher shops normally use a bandsaw to split chickens. The


    mighty

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Sheldon has spoken...hereto and henceforth no one shall use shears


    for

    Quoted message said:

    cutting anything in a kitchen.

    Not true. Butchers typically disjoint fowl with a cleaver. The


    ONLY

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time butchers will put a band saw to fowl is when some jerk-off
    imbecile (Allen Mathews) requests their frozen turkey be bisected.

    Sheldon

    Read my post carefully, if you can read....I said split...not
    disjointed.

    You are indeed a moron... in butcher-speak split and disjoint are
    SYNONYMOUS... you illiterate [censored].

    Sheldon

  7. Sheldon said:


    Allan *PINHEAD* Matthews said:
    Sheldon said:


    Allan *PINHEAD* Matthews wrote:
    > On 17 May 2005 06:09:52 -0700, "Sheldon" <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > >
    > >Dave Smith wrote:
    > >> Don Wiss wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > >But for all kitchen kutting nothing beats a sharp knife
    > >> >
    > >> > Sorry Sheldon. Shears do better for some tasks. While I no
    longer
    > >eat boil
    > >> > in bag foods (they still produce them don't they?) I'd much
    prefer
    > >using
    > >> > shears to open the hot things.
    > >
    > >Figures someone named Wiss would be pushing shears...
    > >
    > >> It's a snap to snip the backbone out of a chicken or to cut


    down

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >through the
    > >> breast bone and cartilage with a good pair of kitchen
    shears.Having
    > >done it
    > >> with knives, crummy shears and good shears, the shears win


    hands

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >down.
    > >
    > >That's because you haven't a clue how to use a knife... I've


    never

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    yet
    > >seen a butcher shop with shears... kitchen shears were developed
    > >*specifically* for those who really don't belong in kitchens.


    You

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >can't use a knife and probably need your mommy to tie your shoes
    too.
    > >
    > >Sheldon
    >
    > Butcher shops normally use a bandsaw to split chickens. The


    mighty

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Sheldon has spoken...hereto and henceforth no one shall use shears
    for
    > cutting anything in a kitchen.

    Not true. Butchers typically disjoint fowl with a cleaver. The


    ONLY

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time butchers will put a band saw to fowl is when some jerk-off
    imbecile (Allen Mathews) requests their frozen turkey be bisected.

    Sheldon

    Read my post carefully, if you can read....I said split...not
    disjointed.

    You are indeed a moron... in butcher-speak split and disjoint are
    SYNONYMOUS... you illiterate [censored].

    Sheldon

    Sorry Sheldon
    Disjoint means to remove wings, thighs and legs from the body...split
    means to cut the body lengthwise.
    Allan

  8. Allan Matthews said:

    Sorry Sheldon
    Disjoint means to remove wings, thighs and legs from the body...split
    means to cut the body lengthwise.

    You might want to try talking to a wall. It may not have any sense either,
    but it won't respond with a lot of BS.
    I have seen my local butcher split chickens with a band saw, but never with
    a knife or cleaver. And FWIW, we were running late tonight and had
    forgotten to defrost anything for dinner. We stopped at a grocery store and
    bought a freshly roasted chicken that would be big enough for two nights. It
    was a half hour driver home so I wanted to re-heat half of it for dinner
    night. I suppose I could have got out the cleaver and chopped the bird in
    half, but that would have sent juice flying all over the kitchen. Instead, I
    got out my good poultry shears (purchased last year at Lee Valley) snip
    snip snip and I had two halves and no mess. The Nancyboy is entitled to his
    own opinion, but like most of his opinions, it stinks.

  9. Damsel said:


    The more I think on this ... I don't know what the intended use for my
    shears is. And I was having a senior moment when I said that mine are OXO.
    The ones I have came in a block along with a cheapo set of Sabatier knives.

    I'll probably eventually spring for a pair that I know are for cutting
    meat. The more I read the arguments in this tread, the more dedicated I'm
    becoming to cutting up raw meat with a pair of scissors. <EG>

  10. Damsel said:


    The more I think on this ... I don't know what the intended use for my
    shears is. And I was having a senior moment when I said that mine are OXO.
    The ones I have came in a block along with a cheapo set of Sabatier knives.


    Hey what happened to Fiskars scissors in this discussion? They cut
    poultry, shellfish and cloth with equal aplomb.... and they don't cost
    an arm or a leg.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll probably eventually spring for a pair that I know are for cutting
    meat. The more I read the arguments in this tread, the more dedicated I'm
    becoming to cutting up raw meat with a pair of scissors. <EG

    I can't go that far, but there are times that scissors do the trick.
    I have a favorite pair of scissors made by (gasp) Fuller Brush that I
    bought 20 or more years ago from a door to door salesman and I still
    have them.

  11. sf said:

    I can't go that far, but there are times that scissors do the trick.
    I have a favorite pair of scissors made by (gasp) Fuller Brush that I
    bought 20 or more years ago from a door to door salesman and I still
    have them.

    We just so happen to have a Fuller Brush person in town here. I haven't
    contacted them yet, but I need a new mop head and probably a few other
    things. I'll check out those scissors. Thanks!

    Carol
    --
    CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY
    United States:
    http://www.stopthehunger.com/
    International:
    http://www.thehungersite.com/

  12. "Damsel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    "Damsel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Serendipity <[email hidden]> said:

    >I find kitchen shears quite handy but likely not for the reason they
    >were intended. I use them for opening packaging like bacon, hams, and
    >turkeys that have that darn heavy shrink packaging.

    That's what I use them for, too. I've never cut food with them. It


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    never occur to me. Well, maybe now.

    Indeed - for jointing poultry etc. the thing to use is a two handed


    felling

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    axe.

    I'm gonna hunt you down, and ..... THWACK!

    You seem to have an obsession with thwacking people Carol - is this
    something you'd care to talk about? ',;~}~

    Quoted message said:

    The only times I have ever jointed poultry has been tearing legs and wings
    off of a roasted turkey, and splitting chicken wings into their three
    separate parts, prior to making them delicious.

    I've done it many times for Indian chicken dishes - some of them, it's much
    better to casserole the chicken in potrions like 1/2 or 1/4 breasts, legs
    and wings - I must admit, I just snap the tendons by bending the joints then
    use my knife, maybe a Ch. cleaver to split he breast...

    Quoted message said:

    Carol, having boneless, skinless chicken breasts later this week. 😄

    I prefer the thigh to breast... well, with poultry ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  13. I'm gonna wade in here wanted or not and add:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You are indeed a moron... in butcher-speak split and disjoint are
    SYNONYMOUS... you illiterate [censored].

    Sheldon

    'Sheldon' and 'over-opinionated', too.

    HTH, HADAD!

    Shaun aRe

  14. "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The Nancyboy is entitled to his
    own opinion, but like most of his opinions, it stinks.

    It actually clearly states on the 'Sheldon's Opinion' label: "Freeze
    immediately on day of purchase to avoid foul stenches." You blithering
    IDIOT. ANYONE with any working brain cells AT ALL would have known that and
    avoided the smelly mess you deservedly found yourself in.

    Shaun <EG!> aRe ',;~}~
    --
    May all your wishes be both wise and fulfilled.

  15. Shaun aRe said:
    Damsel said:


    I'm gonna hunt you down, and ..... THWACK!

    You seem to have an obsession with thwacking people Carol - is this
    something you'd care to talk about? ',;~}~

    And you seem to have an obsession with thwacking off... and people are
    tired of hearing your persistant splattering, albiet impotent... put a
    condom on it!

    Sheldon

  16. Great tip. Thank you, Edwin

    Steve
    Sharpening Made Easy: A Primer on Sharpening Knives and Other Edged
    Tools by Steve Bottorff
    Copyright January 2002 Knife World Publications
    www.sharpeningmadeeasy.com

    Edwin Pawlowski said:

    "Nobody" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking for a good set of kitchen shears. I am partial to the
    old-fashioned kind that have a bottle opener and screwdriver in addition
    to the blades, but I would consider something different if the quality was
    good. I currently own a fancy all-steel pair of poultry shears; they look
    (and are) expensive and high-tech, but they are almost useless, since the
    handles become so slippery when cutting up a chicken that I can't hold
    onto them.

    www.leevalley.com While there, order the jar opener (amazing gadget) and
    the Chinese scissors. Great bargain.

    I've bought a half dozen of the jar openers to give away I like it so much
    and want others to be able to easily open things.

  17. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Shaun aRe said:
    Damsel said:


    I'm gonna hunt you down, and ..... THWACK!

    You seem to have an obsession with thwacking people Carol - is this
    something you'd care to talk about? ',;~}~

    And you seem to have an obsession with thwacking off... and people

    I'm sorry that your 'condition' makes you more than one person Shelly - if I
    was religious, I'd pray for your return to wellbeing, but I ain't, so tough
    titty, bwoy.

    Quoted message said:

    are
    tired of hearing your persistant splattering, albiet impotent... put a
    condom on it!

    Sheldon

    You may just find a way to stop projecting one day... possibly.

    Shaun aRe - Thanks for joining in though.

  18. Dee Randall said:

    "Damsel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Serendipity said:

    I find kitchen shears quite handy but likely not for the reason they
    were intended. I use them for opening packaging like bacon, hams, and
    turkeys that have that darn heavy shrink packaging.

    That's what I use them for, too. I've never cut food with them. It would
    never occur to me. Well, maybe now.

    Carol

    Would not the plastic heavy shrink packaging damage your meat shears beyond
    use? Also they look pretty dangerous to use this way. One jab -- ouch!
    Dee


    I've been doing using a pair of Wilshire sheers for this purpose for
    close to twelve years. It doesn't seem to have done any damage.

  19. Sheldon said:
    Dave Smith said:
    Don Wiss said:

    >But for all kitchen kutting nothing beats a sharp knife

    Sorry Sheldon. Shears do better for some tasks. While I no longer

    eat boil

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in bag foods (they still produce them don't they?) I'd much prefer

    using

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    shears to open the hot things.

    Figures someone named Wiss would be pushing shears...

    Quoted message said:

    It's a snap to snip the backbone out of a chicken or to cut down

    through the

    Quoted message said:

    breast bone and cartilage with a good pair of kitchen shears.Having

    done it

    Quoted message said:

    with knives, crummy shears and good shears, the shears win hands

    down.

    That's because you haven't a clue how to use a knife... I've never yet
    seen a butcher shop with shears... kitchen shears were developed
    *specifically* for those who really don't belong in kitchens. You
    can't use a knife and probably need your mommy to tie your shoes too.

    Actually, our local butcher shop does have a pair of shears. They are
    big, nasty looking things that could likely chop off an arm or leg. He
    has them hanging on the wall along with a few other tools of
    destruction. I'm not sure if they are in current use but at any rate
    they once were. I think he collects old butcher's tools and hangs them
    up to give the store ambiance. At any rate, he has excellent meat!

    BTW, I do use kitchen shears but not for food. Still they come in
    handy. And I haven't had mommy tie my shoes since I discovered slip ons
    and velcro 😉 All joking aside, it wouldn't have dawned on me to use
    the kitchen shears on food.

    Quoted message said:


    Sheldon

  20. Shaun aRe said:

    "Damsel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    Indeed - for jointing poultry etc. the thing to use is a two handed
    felling axe.

    I'm gonna hunt you down, and ..... THWACK!

    You seem to have an obsession with thwacking people Carol - is this
    something you'd care to talk about? ',;~}~

    Just letting out the seething anger that is inside of me. <G> Truth to be
    told, I'm not sure what I'm angry about, but I regularly beat Crash
    senseless in my sleep. Earlier this year, we got a king size bed, so he's
    much safer now.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Carol, having boneless, skinless chicken breasts later this week. 😄

    I prefer the thigh to breast... well, with poultry ',;~}~

    THWACK!

    Carol
    --
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    United States:
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