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  1. There are many religions in the world who call themselves 'christian' but
    there is only one Christian organization that is actually cleansing itself
    of all pagan ritualistic defilement. The facts regarding xmas are common
    knowledge to all educated religious leaders, so why don't they cleanse their
    worship? It is a very important question to ask...why is the united worlwide
    organization of Christians known as Jehovah's Witnesses the only Christian
    organization endeavoring to correct past mistakes and cleanse their worship
    of all paganistic defilement? For those who are not yet familiar with the
    well known facts about xmas, here is some information, *not* from Jehovah's
    Witnesses but from *other* religious scholars and theologians...

    Outside of the Word of God there is no truth (John 14:6), yet Christians
    today are too lazy to "Prove all things" (1 Thessalonians 5:19-22), and try
    the spirits (I John 4:1-5). It is only by searching the scriptures that we
    can assure ourselves of fact, truth, and protection from deception (Acts
    17:11). Do not be deceived by the vain words of men (Ephesians 5:6-11). We
    must not substitute views, opinions, emotions or feelings, for Word of God.
    If we please men then we should not be the servants of Jesus Christ
    (Galatians 1:10).

    Every feast, holy day or ceremonial observation for the glory of the Lord,
    was always written in the Word of God, and our Heavenly Father always gave
    instructions on how to do it. For religious commemorations or celebrations,
    we must have a Biblical command or precedent. We are told in Deuteronomy
    12:29-32, that not only did God want to prevent His people from being
    enticed to worship false gods, by telling them to destroy all vestiges of
    pagan worship that they found in the "Promised Land.", but He specifically
    revealed that He did not want His people to worship Him in the same manner
    in which the heathen worshiped their gods. Our Lord is displeased by
    practices which profess to honor Him, but which are copied from the
    tradition of false religions. God commanded them to worship Him only in the
    way He commands, not to add to them nor take away from them.

    The sons of Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, were slain in the temple for offering up
    "strange fire" before the Lord God (Leviticus 10:1,2; Numbers 3:4 & 26:61).
    Strange fire is offering something to God that He has not asked for, does
    not receive, does not observe, it is worshiping God your way (how you think
    He should be worshipped), instead of Gods way. Saul disobeyed God's prophet
    in order to worship God in his way (1 Samuel 15:1-3, 7-9, 21-23). Is not the
    celebration of Christmas, with all its pagan symbols and forms, one of man's
    ways of worshiping Christ, a "strange fire" unto the Lord, a form of worship
    contrary to what God commands? If we truly love Jesus we will keep His word
    and offer no strange fire before Him. (John 14:15, 23; Luke 6:46)

    Exposing the Lies:
    Did the orginal Apostles - our spiritual fathers and foundation in the faith
    and those who knew Jesus personally, ever teach or celebrate His birthday?

    FACT-There is no Biblical warrant, precedent, nor precept for the
    remembrance of the day of Christ's birth as a day of special religious
    celebration. The early church did not celebrate Christ's birth, such
    celebrations only came into the church with the "Christianization" of pagan
    rites as Catholicism was made the state religion by Constantine in the
    fourth century A.D. The Word of God does not support the tradition of
    Christmas.

    But didn't the Angels and Shepherds come and worship Him?

    FACT-No, they did not. If you will read your Bible in Luke 2:13-20, you will
    see that when the Angels announced this to the shepherds, they (the Angels)
    glorified "God in the highest" (v14), in other words, the Heavenly Father,
    and the Shepherds returned (from Bethlehem), "glorifying and praising God,
    for all the things that they had heard and seen" (v20).

    [Note: For background on why it was Bethlehem, study the Book of Ruth]

    Did not the three wise men come and worship Jesus in the manger? And did not
    the three wise men give gifts to Him when he was born?

    [Note: Wise men is a translation of the Greek word magoi, the ancient Greek
    transliteration of the Persian original for a select sect of priests. The
    word 'magic' comes from the same root. Magi is the Latinized form.
    The Magi were a hereditary priesthood of the Medes credited with
    extraordinary religious knowledge. After some Magi, who had been attached to
    the Median court, proved to be expert in the interpretation of dreams,
    Darius the Great established them over the state religion of Persia.
    (Oneiromancy, not astrology, is the key skill mentioned by Herodotus, 1.1
    07, 120; Vil.19.) Contrary to popular belief, the Magi were not originally
    followers of Zoroaster.(Encyclopedia Britannica, 7:691.) That all came
    later.
    It was in this dual capacity whereby civil and political counsel was
    invested with religious authority, that the Magi became the supreme priestly
    caste of the Persian empire, and continued to be prominent during the
    subsequent Seleucid, Parthian, Sasanian periods. (Zondervan Pictorial
    Encyclopedia of the Bible, 4:31-34.)]

    FACT-There is not one record of there being three wise men! The Bible says
    in Matthew 2:1, there came wise men from the east. They brought three gifts
    which were also prophetic, gold (for his "diety"😉, frankincense (a spice
    used in the priestly duties, signifying His office as priest), and myrrh (an
    embalming ointment signifying His sacrificial death, as savior). Because
    there was three gifts, man's imagination changes the Bible, and says, there
    were three men. In the millennium, He will also receive the gifts of gold
    and frankincense; (Isaiah 60:6) but no myrrh. His death was once and for
    all.

    FACT-Matthew 2:3 says that Herod and all Jerusalem were troubled. I do not
    think that three men on camels would be noticed much in a city of great size
    like Jerusalem, the city would have been filled daily with men on camels.
    The wise men were a supreme priestly caste who held the governmental office
    of the upper house of the Council of the Megistanes ("magistrates"😉. Their
    duties included the absolute choice and election of the king of the realm.
    It was therefore a group of Persian-Parthian "king makers" who entered
    Jerusalem in the latter days of the reign of Herod. Their sudden appearance
    in Jerusalem (wise men usually traveled in caravans of 40 or more in
    number), probably traveling in force with every imaginable oriental pomp,
    and accompanied by adequate calvary escort to insure their safe penetration
    of Roman territory, certainly alarmed Herod and the populace of Jerusalem.
    Herod's reaction would of been one of fear when one considers the background
    of Roman Parthian rivalry that prevailed during his lifetime (see note below
    ). It would seem as if these wise men were attempting to perpetrate a border
    incident which could bring swift reprisal from Parthian armies.

    [Note: Political Background: Since the days of Daniel, both the Persian and
    the Jewish nations had, in their turn, fallen under Seleucid domination in
    the wake of Alexander's conquests. Subsequently both had regained their
    independence: the Jews under Maccabean leadership, and the Persians as the
    dominating ruling group within the Parthian Empire.
    Pompey, the first Roman conqueror of Jerusalem, attacked the Armenian
    outpost of Parthia in 63 B.C. In 55 B.C. Carssus led Roman legions in
    sacking Jerusalem and, in a subsequent attack, Parthia proper. The Romans
    were decisively defeated at the battle of Carrhae with the loss of 30,000
    troops, including their commander. The Parthians counter attacked with a
    token invasion of Armenia, Syria, and Palestine.
    Nominal Roman rule was reestablished under Antipater, the father of Herod,
    who retreated before another Parthian invasion in 40 B.C.
    Mark Anthony re-established Roman sovereignty in 37 B.C., and, like Carssus
    before him, also embarked on a similarly ill-fated Parthian expedition. His
    disastrous retreat was followed by another wave of invading Parthians, which
    swept all Roman opposition completely out of Palestine (including Herod
    himself, who fled to Alexandria and then to Rome).
    With Parthian collaboration, Jewish sovereignty was restored and Jerusalem
    was fortified with a Jewish garrison.
    Herod, by this time, secured from Augustus Caesar the title of "King of the
    Jews." However, it was not for three years (including a five month's siege
    by Roman troops) that he was able to occupy his own capital city. Herod had
    thus gained the throne of a rebellious buffer state which was situated
    between two mighty contending empires. At any time, his own subjects might
    conspire in bringing the Parthians to their aid.]

    [Note: Daniels Role: It is entirely conceivable that the messianic
    prophecies of Daniel was of profound motivating significance to the wise
    men. Daniel, who was a principal administrator in two world empires, the
    Babylonian and subsequent Persian empire, was considered to be one of their
    own magicians, he was given the title "master of the magicians" (Daniel 4:9;
    5:11). When Darius appointed him, a Jew, over the previously hereditary
    Median priesthood, the resulting repercussions resulted in the plots leading
    to the lion's den.(Daniel 6). Perhaps the wise men were entrusted to a
    messianic vision, to be announced in due time by a "star"? Another
    interesting note is that the Angel Gabriel, who gave Daniel skill and
    understanding concerning the time when the messiah will present Himself, is
    also the Angel mentioned in Luke 1:19.]

    Consulting the Jewish priests and scribes, Herod discovered that the
    Promised One, the Messiah, would be born in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:4-6; Micah
    5:2). Hiding his concern and expressing sincere interest, Herod requested
    that the wise men keep him informed (Matthew 2:7-8).

    Did they bring these gifts to the manger?

    FACT-The Bible clearly states in Matthew 2:7-16, that the wise men followed
    the star for two years (v16), and they presented the gifts to the young
    child (Jesus was two years old when the men finally arrived) in His house
    (v11). Thus their giving had nothing to do with a birthday.

    After presenting their prophetic gifts to the young child, the wise men
    "being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod
    (Matthew 2:12-13), (a form of communication most acceptable to them)
    departed to their own country, ignoring Herod's request.

    Didn't the wise men come to worship the child?

    FACT-Matthew 2:2, states that the "wise men" came to worship the King of the
    Jews, it is interesting to note that in verse 8, Herod said that he wanted
    to worship "the young child". Wise men worship the King, but men will
    worship the child. Asking Herod, "where is he that is born King of the
    Jews?" (Matthew 2:2) was probably also a calculated insult by the wise men,
    because Herod was an Edomite, a traditional enemy of Israel, who had most
    probably contrived and bribed his way into that office.

    Was Jesus born on December 25th?

    FACT-In December it is the winter season, rainy and cold and the shepherds
    do not keep their flocks out at night grazing in the winter (Luke 2:8). It
    was customary for the shepherds to herd their flocks and take them in after
    Mid-October and release them in early spring. Thus the Luke 2 account of the
    birth of Jesus could not have been in December.

    FACT- No man knows when Jesus was born, but we can be pretty sure that it
    was not the twenty-fifth of December. If God desired us to remember Christ's
    birthday, He would have left us the precise date. But in so doing, He would
    have vindicated every astrologer in the past 2,000 years, because in occult
    circles, the anniversary of a person's birth is the most important
    metaphysical day of the year. The Bible recognizes no such significance. It
    is intriguing that there are only two birthday celebrations recorded in the
    entire Bible and they were both those of ungodly kings, and both resulted in
    an execution (Genesis 40:16-22 and Matthew 14:6-10/Mark 6:21-27). Although
    Luke places the birth in a historical perspective, even the year cannot be
    exactly determined. The Bible does tells us though, that He was born before
    the death of Herod the Great who died in 4 B.C, so the 1AD date is certainly
    wrong.

    FACT- God has warned us about getting entangled with special days (Galations
    4:9-10). There is no record in the Bible of people observing or worshipping
    Jesus because of his birth, it is not taught, or preached. What we are
    taught though, is to remember Him in His death, but no special day was
    specified for this either, any day of the year will do. (Matthew 26:26-31;
    Mark 14:22-27; Luke 22:17-20).

    For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That
    the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when
    he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body,
    which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner
    also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new
    testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of
    me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the
    Lords death till he come (1 Corinthians 11:23-26)

    To commemorate His death is Scriptural. To commemorate His birth is not, it
    is extra-Scriptural (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32; Proverbs 30:6; Revelation
    22:19).

    But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the
    Greeks foolishness; (1 Corinthians 1:23)

    Joseph and Mary did not just show up in Bethlehem, go to an Inn, find there
    was no room, and had to go to a dirty stable with animals to have a baby.

    We even have this fixed picture in our minds of what "there was no room for
    them in the inn" (Luke 2:7) may have meant. The word "inn" in Luke 2:7
    [kataluma], is used again by Luke in 22:11:

    And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling
    clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the
    inn. (Luke 2:7)

    And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee,
    Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
    (Luke 22:11)

    kataluma, Greek 2646, Strong's kataluma, kat-al'-oo-mah; from Greek 2647
    (kataluo); properly a dissolution (breaking up of a journey), i.e. (by
    implication) a lodging-place :- guestchamber, inn.

    The same word for inn (kataluma) in Luke 2:7, is used for "guestchamber" in
    Luke 22:11. The guestchamber was the upper room of a house for guests (see
    Luke 22:12-13).

    FACT- Joseph was returning to his home town of Bethlehem to be counted with
    his family in the Roman census (Luke 2:1-2). Joseph must of had relatives
    living there, and it must have been Joseph's intention to stay with his
    family, he knew Mary was with child and due soon. Since many out-of-town
    family members would have been arriving at the same time, the inn, which was
    the upstairs room, on the roof of the house, used for guests, was already
    full (Notice that it is not 'at an inn', but 'in the inn', Luke 2:7). Mary
    and Joseph found space in the area that comprised the first floor of the
    house - the manger. Here it was usually warm and would have been comfortable
    for the birthing. And even though used for domesticated animals and shelter,
    it would have been clean. Also notice, that the Bible states that they had
    been there a while, and the days were accomplished that she should be
    delivered (Luke 2:6).

    Now in the days of Jesus, when a family was poor, the manger was a part of
    their house where the families lived and it was the lower part or portion of
    the house which would represent his humbleness or humility when born into
    this earth. This manger was usually adjacent to the living quarters of the
    family and they would keep their domesticated animals there. The manger or
    trough was usually hewn out of rock (Bakers Encyclopedia of the Bible, Vol.2
    page 1392).

    A manger was usually hewn out of rock, which would be scripturally fitting,
    for our Lord Jesus is the ROCK of our salvation, we are to build our house
    on the ROCK, and His tomb was hewn out of a ROCK.

    And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual
    Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. (1 Corinthians 10:4)

    He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the
    foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently
    upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a
    rock.(Luke 6:48, see also Matthew 7:24-25)

    And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen,
    and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone
    unto the door of the sepulchre. (Mark 15:46, see also Matthew 27:60)

  2. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:16:13 -0500, "torresD" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    There are many religions in the world who call themselves 'christian' but
    there is only one Christian organization that is actually cleansing itself
    of all pagan ritualistic defilement. The facts regarding xmas are common
    knowledge to all educated religious leaders, so why don't they cleanse their
    worship? It is a very important question to ask...why is the united worlwide
    organization of Christians known as Jehovah's Witnesses the only Christian
    organization endeavoring to correct past mistakes and cleanse their worship
    of all paganistic defilement? For those who are not yet familiar with the
    well known facts about xmas, here is some information, *not* from Jehovah's
    Witnesses but from *other* religious scholars and theologians...

    Outside of the Word of God there is no truth (John 14:6), yet Christians
    today are too lazy to "Prove all things" (1 Thessalonians 5:19-22), and try
    the spirits (I John 4:1-5). It is only by searching the scriptures that we
    can assure ourselves of fact, truth, and protection from deception (Acts
    17:11). Do not be deceived by the vain words of men (Ephesians 5:6-11). We
    must not substitute views, opinions, emotions or feelings, for Word of God.
    If we please men then we should not be the servants of Jesus Christ
    (Galatians 1:10).

    Every feast, holy day or ceremonial observation for the glory of the Lord,
    was always written in the Word of God, and our Heavenly Father always gave
    instructions on how to do it. For religious commemorations or celebrations,
    we must have a Biblical command or precedent. We are told in Deuteronomy
    12:29-32, that not only did God want to prevent His people from being
    enticed to worship false gods, by telling them to destroy all vestiges of
    pagan worship that they found in the "Promised Land.", but He specifically
    revealed that He did not want His people to worship Him in the same manner
    in which the heathen worshiped their gods. Our Lord is displeased by
    practices which profess to honor Him, but which are copied from the
    tradition of false religions. God commanded them to worship Him only in the
    way He commands, not to add to them nor take away from them.

    The sons of Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, were slain in the temple for offering up
    "strange fire" before the Lord God (Leviticus 10:1,2; Numbers 3:4 & 26:61).
    Strange fire is offering something to God that He has not asked for, does
    not receive, does not observe, it is worshiping God your way (how you think
    He should be worshipped), instead of Gods way. Saul disobeyed God's prophet
    in order to worship God in his way (1 Samuel 15:1-3, 7-9, 21-23). Is not the
    celebration of Christmas, with all its pagan symbols and forms, one of man's
    ways of worshiping Christ, a "strange fire" unto the Lord, a form of worship
    contrary to what God commands? If we truly love Jesus we will keep His word
    and offer no strange fire before Him. (John 14:15, 23; Luke 6:46)

    Exposing the Lies:
    Did the orginal Apostles - our spiritual fathers and foundation in the faith
    and those who knew Jesus personally, ever teach or celebrate His birthday?

    FACT-There is no Biblical warrant, precedent, nor precept for the
    remembrance of the day of Christ's birth as a day of special religious
    celebration. The early church did not celebrate Christ's birth, such
    celebrations only came into the church with the "Christianization" of pagan
    rites as Catholicism was made the state religion by Constantine in the
    fourth century A.D. The Word of God does not support the tradition of
    Christmas.

    But didn't the Angels and Shepherds come and worship Him?

    FACT-No, they did not. If you will read your Bible in Luke 2:13-20, you will
    see that when the Angels announced this to the shepherds, they (the Angels)
    glorified "God in the highest" (v14), in other words, the Heavenly Father,
    and the Shepherds returned (from Bethlehem), "glorifying and praising God,
    for all the things that they had heard and seen" (v20).

    [Note: For background on why it was Bethlehem, study the Book of Ruth]

    Did not the three wise men come and worship Jesus in the manger? And did not
    the three wise men give gifts to Him when he was born?

    [Note: Wise men is a translation of the Greek word magoi, the ancient Greek
    transliteration of the Persian original for a select sect of priests. The
    word 'magic' comes from the same root. Magi is the Latinized form.
    The Magi were a hereditary priesthood of the Medes credited with
    extraordinary religious knowledge. After some Magi, who had been attached to
    the Median court, proved to be expert in the interpretation of dreams,
    Darius the Great established them over the state religion of Persia.
    (Oneiromancy, not astrology, is the key skill mentioned by Herodotus, 1.1
    07, 120; Vil.19.) Contrary to popular belief, the Magi were not originally
    followers of Zoroaster.(Encyclopedia Britannica, 7:691.) That all came
    later.
    It was in this dual capacity whereby civil and political counsel was
    invested with religious authority, that the Magi became the supreme priestly
    caste of the Persian empire, and continued to be prominent during the
    subsequent Seleucid, Parthian, Sasanian periods. (Zondervan Pictorial
    Encyclopedia of the Bible, 4:31-34.)]

    FACT-There is not one record of there being three wise men! The Bible says
    in Matthew 2:1, there came wise men from the east. They brought three gifts
    which were also prophetic, gold (for his "diety"😉, frankincense (a spice
    used in the priestly duties, signifying His office as priest), and myrrh (an
    embalming ointment signifying His sacrificial death, as savior). Because
    there was three gifts, man's imagination changes the Bible, and says, there
    were three men. In the millennium, He will also receive the gifts of gold
    and frankincense; (Isaiah 60:6) but no myrrh. His death was once and for
    all.

    FACT-Matthew 2:3 says that Herod and all Jerusalem were troubled. I do not
    think that three men on camels would be noticed much in a city of great size
    like Jerusalem, the city would have been filled daily with men on camels.
    The wise men were a supreme priestly caste who held the governmental office
    of the upper house of the Council of the Megistanes ("magistrates"😉. Their
    duties included the absolute choice and election of the king of the realm.
    It was therefore a group of Persian-Parthian "king makers" who entered
    Jerusalem in the latter days of the reign of Herod. Their sudden appearance
    in Jerusalem (wise men usually traveled in caravans of 40 or more in
    number), probably traveling in force with every imaginable oriental pomp,
    and accompanied by adequate calvary escort to insure their safe penetration
    of Roman territory, certainly alarmed Herod and the populace of Jerusalem.
    Herod's reaction would of been one of fear when one considers the background
    of Roman Parthian rivalry that prevailed during his lifetime (see note below
    ). It would seem as if these wise men were attempting to perpetrate a border
    incident which could bring swift reprisal from Parthian armies.

    [Note: Political Background: Since the days of Daniel, both the Persian and
    the Jewish nations had, in their turn, fallen under Seleucid domination in
    the wake of Alexander's conquests. Subsequently both had regained their
    independence: the Jews under Maccabean leadership, and the Persians as the
    dominating ruling group within the Parthian Empire.
    Pompey, the first Roman conqueror of Jerusalem, attacked the Armenian
    outpost of Parthia in 63 B.C. In 55 B.C. Carssus led Roman legions in
    sacking Jerusalem and, in a subsequent attack, Parthia proper. The Romans
    were decisively defeated at the battle of Carrhae with the loss of 30,000
    troops, including their commander. The Parthians counter attacked with a
    token invasion of Armenia, Syria, and Palestine.
    Nominal Roman rule was reestablished under Antipater, the father of Herod,
    who retreated before another Parthian invasion in 40 B.C.
    Mark Anthony re-established Roman sovereignty in 37 B.C., and, like Carssus
    before him, also embarked on a similarly ill-fated Parthian expedition. His
    disastrous retreat was followed by another wave of invading Parthians, which
    swept all Roman opposition completely out of Palestine (including Herod
    himself, who fled to Alexandria and then to Rome).
    With Parthian collaboration, Jewish sovereignty was restored and Jerusalem
    was fortified with a Jewish garrison.
    Herod, by this time, secured from Augustus Caesar the title of "King of the
    Jews." However, it was not for three years (including a five month's siege
    by Roman troops) that he was able to occupy his own capital city. Herod had
    thus gained the throne of a rebellious buffer state which was situated
    between two mighty contending empires. At any time, his own subjects might
    conspire in bringing the Parthians to their aid.]

    [Note: Daniels Role: It is entirely conceivable that the messianic
    prophecies of Daniel was of profound motivating significance to the wise
    men. Daniel, who was a principal administrator in two world empires, the
    Babylonian and subsequent Persian empire, was considered to be one of their
    own magicians, he was given the title "master of the magicians" (Daniel 4:9;
    5:11). When Darius appointed him, a Jew, over the previously hereditary
    Median priesthood, the resulting repercussions resulted in the plots leading
    to the lion's den.(Daniel 6). Perhaps the wise men were entrusted to a
    messianic vision, to be announced in due time by a "star"? Another
    interesting note is that the Angel Gabriel, who gave Daniel skill and
    understanding concerning the time when the messiah will present Himself, is
    also the Angel mentioned in Luke 1:19.]

    Consulting the Jewish priests and scribes, Herod discovered that the
    Promised One, the Messiah, would be born in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:4-6; Micah
    5:2). Hiding his concern and expressing sincere interest, Herod requested
    that the wise men keep him informed (Matthew 2:7-8).

    Did they bring these gifts to the manger?

    FACT-The Bible clearly states in Matthew 2:7-16, that the wise men followed
    the star for two years (v16), and they presented the gifts to the young
    child (Jesus was two years old when the men finally arrived) in His house
    (v11). Thus their giving had nothing to do with a birthday.

    After presenting their prophetic gifts to the young child, the wise men
    "being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod
    (Matthew 2:12-13), (a form of communication most acceptable to them)
    departed to their own country, ignoring Herod's request.

    Didn't the wise men come to worship the child?

    FACT-Matthew 2:2, states that the "wise men" came to worship the King of the
    Jews, it is interesting to note that in verse 8, Herod said that he wanted
    to worship "the young child". Wise men worship the King, but men will
    worship the child. Asking Herod, "where is he that is born King of the
    Jews?" (Matthew 2:2) was probably also a calculated insult by the wise men,
    because Herod was an Edomite, a traditional enemy of Israel, who had most
    probably contrived and bribed his way into that office.

    Was Jesus born on December 25th?

    FACT-In December it is the winter season, rainy and cold and the shepherds
    do not keep their flocks out at night grazing in the winter (Luke 2:8). It
    was customary for the shepherds to herd their flocks and take them in after
    Mid-October and release them in early spring. Thus the Luke 2 account of the
    birth of Jesus could not have been in December.

    FACT- No man knows when Jesus was born, but we can be pretty sure that it
    was not the twenty-fifth of December. If God desired us to remember Christ's
    birthday, He would have left us the precise date. But in so doing, He would
    have vindicated every astrologer in the past 2,000 years, because in occult
    circles, the anniversary of a person's birth is the most important
    metaphysical day of the year. The Bible recognizes no such significance. It
    is intriguing that there are only two birthday celebrations recorded in the
    entire Bible and they were both those of ungodly kings, and both resulted in
    an execution (Genesis 40:16-22 and Matthew 14:6-10/Mark 6:21-27). Although
    Luke places the birth in a historical perspective, even the year cannot be
    exactly determined. The Bible does tells us though, that He was born before
    the death of Herod the Great who died in 4 B.C, so the 1AD date is certainly
    wrong.

    FACT- God has warned us about getting entangled with special days (Galations
    4:9-10). There is no record in the Bible of people observing or worshipping
    Jesus because of his birth, it is not taught, or preached. What we are
    taught though, is to remember Him in His death, but no special day was
    specified for this either, any day of the year will do. (Matthew 26:26-31;
    Mark 14:22-27; Luke 22:17-20).

    For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That
    the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when
    he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body,
    which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner
    also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new
    testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of
    me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the
    Lords death till he come (1 Corinthians 11:23-26)

    To commemorate His death is Scriptural. To commemorate His birth is not, it
    is extra-Scriptural (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32; Proverbs 30:6; Revelation
    22:19).

    But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the
    Greeks foolishness; (1 Corinthians 1:23)

    Joseph and Mary did not just show up in Bethlehem, go to an Inn, find there
    was no room, and had to go to a dirty stable with animals to have a baby.

    We even have this fixed picture in our minds of what "there was no room for
    them in the inn" (Luke 2:7) may have meant. The word "inn" in Luke 2:7
    [kataluma], is used again by Luke in 22:11:

    And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling
    clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the
    inn. (Luke 2:7)

    And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee,
    Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
    (Luke 22:11)

    kataluma, Greek 2646, Strong's kataluma, kat-al'-oo-mah; from Greek 2647
    (kataluo); properly a dissolution (breaking up of a journey), i.e. (by
    implication) a lodging-place :- guestchamber, inn.

    The same word for inn (kataluma) in Luke 2:7, is used for "guestchamber" in
    Luke 22:11. The guestchamber was the upper room of a house for guests (see
    Luke 22:12-13).

    FACT- Joseph was returning to his home town of Bethlehem to be counted with
    his family in the Roman census (Luke 2:1-2). Joseph must of had relatives
    living there, and it must have been Joseph's intention to stay with his
    family, he knew Mary was with child and due soon. Since many out-of-town
    family members would have been arriving at the same time, the inn, which was
    the upstairs room, on the roof of the house, used for guests, was already
    full (Notice that it is not 'at an inn', but 'in the inn', Luke 2:7). Mary
    and Joseph found space in the area that comprised the first floor of the
    house - the manger. Here it was usually warm and would have been comfortable
    for the birthing. And even though used for domesticated animals and shelter,
    it would have been clean. Also notice, that the Bible states that they had
    been there a while, and the days were accomplished that she should be
    delivered (Luke 2:6).

    Now in the days of Jesus, when a family was poor, the manger was a part of
    their house where the families lived and it was the lower part or portion of
    the house which would represent his humbleness or humility when born into
    this earth. This manger was usually adjacent to the living quarters of the
    family and they would keep their domesticated animals there. The manger or
    trough was usually hewn out of rock (Bakers Encyclopedia of the Bible, Vol.2
    page 1392).

    A manger was usually hewn out of rock, which would be scripturally fitting,
    for our Lord Jesus is the ROCK of our salvation, we are to build our house
    on the ROCK, and His tomb was hewn out of a ROCK.

    And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual
    Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. (1 Corinthians 10:4)

    He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the
    foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently
    upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a

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    There are many religions in the world who call themselves 'christian' but
    there is only one Christian organization that is actually cleansing itself
    of all pagan ritualistic defilement. The facts regarding xmas are common
    knowledge to all educated religious leaders, so why don't they cleanse


    their

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    worship? It is a very important question to ask...why is the united


    worlwide

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    organization of Christians known as Jehovah's Witnesses the only Christian
    organization endeavoring to correct past mistakes and cleanse their


    worship

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    of all paganistic defilement? For those who are not yet familiar with the
    well known facts about xmas, here is some information, *not* from


    Jehovah's

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    Witnesses but from *other* religious scholars and theologians...

    Outside of the Word of God there is no truth (John 14:6), yet Christians
    today are too lazy to "Prove all things" (1 Thessalonians 5:19-22), and


    try

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    the spirits (I John 4:1-5). It is only by searching the scriptures that we
    can assure ourselves of fact, truth, and protection from deception (Acts
    17:11). Do not be deceived by the vain words of men (Ephesians 5:6-11). We
    must not substitute views, opinions, emotions or feelings, for Word of


    God.

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    If we please men then we should not be the servants of Jesus Christ
    (Galatians 1:10).

    Every feast, holy day or ceremonial observation for the glory of the Lord,
    was always written in the Word of God, and our Heavenly Father always gave
    instructions on how to do it. For religious commemorations or


    celebrations,

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    we must have a Biblical command or precedent. We are told in Deuteronomy
    12:29-32, that not only did God want to prevent His people from being
    enticed to worship false gods, by telling them to destroy all vestiges of
    pagan worship that they found in the "Promised Land.", but He specifically
    revealed that He did not want His people to worship Him in the same manner
    in which the heathen worshiped their gods. Our Lord is displeased by
    practices which profess to honor Him, but which are copied from the
    tradition of false religions. God commanded them to worship Him only in


    the

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    way He commands, not to add to them nor take away from them.

    The sons of Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, were slain in the temple for offering


    up

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    "strange fire" before the Lord God (Leviticus 10:1,2; Numbers 3:4 &


    26:61).

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    Strange fire is offering something to God that He has not asked for, does
    not receive, does not observe, it is worshiping God your way (how you


    think

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    He should be worshipped), instead of Gods way. Saul disobeyed God's


    prophet

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    in order to worship God in his way (1 Samuel 15:1-3, 7-9, 21-23). Is not


    the

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    celebration of Christmas, with all its pagan symbols and forms, one of


    man's

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    ways of worshiping Christ, a "strange fire" unto the Lord, a form of


    worship

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    contrary to what God commands? If we truly love Jesus we will keep His


    word

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    and offer no strange fire before Him. (John 14:15, 23; Luke 6:46)

    Exposing the Lies:
    Did the orginal Apostles - our spiritual fathers and foundation in the


    faith

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    and those who knew Jesus personally, ever teach or celebrate His birthday?

    FACT-There is no Biblical warrant, precedent, nor precept for the
    remembrance of the day of Christ's birth as a day of special religious
    celebration. The early church did not celebrate Christ's birth, such
    celebrations only came into the church with the "Christianization" of


    pagan

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    rites as Catholicism was made the state religion by Constantine in the
    fourth century A.D. The Word of God does not support the tradition of
    Christmas.

    But didn't the Angels and Shepherds come and worship Him?

    FACT-No, they did not. If you will read your Bible in Luke 2:13-20, you


    will

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    see that when the Angels announced this to the shepherds, they (the


    Angels)

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    glorified "God in the highest" (v14), in other words, the Heavenly Father,
    and the Shepherds returned (from Bethlehem), "glorifying and praising God,
    for all the things that they had heard and seen" (v20).

    [Note: For background on why it was Bethlehem, study the Book of Ruth]

    Did not the three wise men come and worship Jesus in the manger? And did


    not

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    the three wise men give gifts to Him when he was born?

    [Note: Wise men is a translation of the Greek word magoi, the ancient


    Greek

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    transliteration of the Persian original for a select sect of priests. The
    word 'magic' comes from the same root. Magi is the Latinized form.
    The Magi were a hereditary priesthood of the Medes credited with
    extraordinary religious knowledge. After some Magi, who had been attached


    to

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    the Median court, proved to be expert in the interpretation of dreams,
    Darius the Great established them over the state religion of Persia.
    (Oneiromancy, not astrology, is the key skill mentioned by Herodotus, 1.1
    07, 120; Vil.19.) Contrary to popular belief, the Magi were not originally
    followers of Zoroaster.(Encyclopedia Britannica, 7:691.) That all came
    later.
    It was in this dual capacity whereby civil and political counsel was
    invested with religious authority, that the Magi became the supreme


    priestly

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    caste of the Persian empire, and continued to be prominent during the
    subsequent Seleucid, Parthian, Sasanian periods. (Zondervan Pictorial
    Encyclopedia of the Bible, 4:31-34.)]

    FACT-There is not one record of there being three wise men! The Bible says
    in Matthew 2:1, there came wise men from the east. They brought three


    gifts

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    which were also prophetic, gold (for his "diety"😉, frankincense (a spice
    used in the priestly duties, signifying His office as priest), and myrrh


    (an

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    embalming ointment signifying His sacrificial death, as savior). Because
    there was three gifts, man's imagination changes the Bible, and says,


    there

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    were three men. In the millennium, He will also receive the gifts of gold
    and frankincense; (Isaiah 60:6) but no myrrh. His death was once and for
    all.

    FACT-Matthew 2:3 says that Herod and all Jerusalem were troubled. I do not
    think that three men on camels would be noticed much in a city of great


    size

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    like Jerusalem, the city would have been filled daily with men on camels.
    The wise men were a supreme priestly caste who held the governmental


    office

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    of the upper house of the Council of the Megistanes ("magistrates"😉. Their
    duties included the absolute choice and election of the king of the realm.
    It was therefore a group of Persian-Parthian "king makers" who entered
    Jerusalem in the latter days of the reign of Herod. Their sudden


    appearance

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    in Jerusalem (wise men usually traveled in caravans of 40 or more in
    number), probably traveling in force with every imaginable oriental pomp,
    and accompanied by adequate calvary escort to insure their safe


    penetration

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    of Roman territory, certainly alarmed Herod and the populace of Jerusalem.
    Herod's reaction would of been one of fear when one considers the


    background

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    of Roman Parthian rivalry that prevailed during his lifetime (see note


    below

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    ). It would seem as if these wise men were attempting to perpetrate a


    border

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    incident which could bring swift reprisal from Parthian armies.

    [Note: Political Background: Since the days of Daniel, both the Persian


    and

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    the Jewish nations had, in their turn, fallen under Seleucid domination in
    the wake of Alexander's conquests. Subsequently both had regained their
    independence: the Jews under Maccabean leadership, and the Persians as the
    dominating ruling group within the Parthian Empire.
    Pompey, the first Roman conqueror of Jerusalem, attacked the Armenian
    outpost of Parthia in 63 B.C. In 55 B.C. Carssus led Roman legions in
    sacking Jerusalem and, in a subsequent attack, Parthia proper. The Romans
    were decisively defeated at the battle of Carrhae with the loss of 30,000
    troops, including their commander. The Parthians counter attacked with a
    token invasion of Armenia, Syria, and Palestine.
    Nominal Roman rule was reestablished under Antipater, the father of Herod,
    who retreated before another Parthian invasion in 40 B.C.
    Mark Anthony re-established Roman sovereignty in 37 B.C., and, like


    Carssus

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    before him, also embarked on a similarly ill-fated Parthian expedition.


    His

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    disastrous retreat was followed by another wave of invading Parthians,


    which

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    swept all Roman opposition completely out of Palestine (including Herod
    himself, who fled to Alexandria and then to Rome).
    With Parthian collaboration, Jewish sovereignty was restored and Jerusalem
    was fortified with a Jewish garrison.
    Herod, by this time, secured from Augustus Caesar the title of "King of


    the

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    Jews." However, it was not for three years (including a five month's siege
    by Roman troops) that he was able to occupy his own capital city. Herod


    had

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    thus gained the throne of a rebellious buffer state which was situated
    between two mighty contending empires. At any time, his own subjects might
    conspire in bringing the Parthians to their aid.]

    [Note: Daniels Role: It is entirely conceivable that the messianic
    prophecies of Daniel was of profound motivating significance to the wise
    men. Daniel, who was a principal administrator in two world empires, the
    Babylonian and subsequent Persian empire, was considered to be one of


    their

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    own magicians, he was given the title "master of the magicians" (Daniel


    4:9;

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    5:11). When Darius appointed him, a Jew, over the previously hereditary
    Median priesthood, the resulting repercussions resulted in the plots


    leading

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    to the lion's den.(Daniel 6). Perhaps the wise men were entrusted to a
    messianic vision, to be announced in due time by a "star"? Another
    interesting note is that the Angel Gabriel, who gave Daniel skill and
    understanding concerning the time when the messiah will present Himself,


    is

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    also the Angel mentioned in Luke 1:19.]

    Consulting the Jewish priests and scribes, Herod discovered that the
    Promised One, the Messiah, would be born in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:4-6;


    Micah

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    5:2). Hiding his concern and expressing sincere interest, Herod requested
    that the wise men keep him informed (Matthew 2:7-8).

    Did they bring these gifts to the manger?

    FACT-The Bible clearly states in Matthew 2:7-16, that the wise men


    followed

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    the star for two years (v16), and they presented the gifts to the young
    child (Jesus was two years old when the men finally arrived) in His house
    (v11). Thus their giving had nothing to do with a birthday.

    After presenting their prophetic gifts to the young child, the wise men
    "being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod
    (Matthew 2:12-13), (a form of communication most acceptable to them)
    departed to their own country, ignoring Herod's request.

    Didn't the wise men come to worship the child?

    FACT-Matthew 2:2, states that the "wise men" came to worship the King of


    the

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    Jews, it is interesting to note that in verse 8, Herod said that he wanted
    to worship "the young child". Wise men worship the King, but men will
    worship the child. Asking Herod, "where is he that is born King of the
    Jews?" (Matthew 2:2) was probably also a calculated insult by the wise


    men,

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    because Herod was an Edomite, a traditional enemy of Israel, who had most
    probably contrived and bribed his way into that office.

    Was Jesus born on December 25th?

    FACT-In December it is the winter season, rainy and cold and the shepherds
    do not keep their flocks out at night grazing in the winter (Luke 2:8). It
    was customary for the shepherds to herd their flocks and take them in


    after

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    Mid-October and release them in early spring. Thus the Luke 2 account of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    birth of Jesus could not have been in December.

    FACT- No man knows when Jesus was born, but we can be pretty sure that it
    was not the twenty-fifth of December. If God desired us to remember


    Christ's

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    birthday, He would have left us the precise date. But in so doing, He


    would

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    have vindicated every astrologer in the past 2,000 years, because in


    occult

    Quoted message said:

    circles, the anniversary of a person's birth is the most important
    metaphysical day of the year. The Bible recognizes no such significance.


    It

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    is intriguing that there are only two birthday celebrations recorded in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    entire Bible and they were both those of ungodly kings, and both resulted


    in

    Quoted message said:

    an execution (Genesis 40:16-22 and Matthew 14:6-10/Mark 6:21-27). Although
    Luke places the birth in a historical perspective, even the year cannot be
    exactly determined. The Bible does tells us though, that He was born


    before

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    the death of Herod the Great who died in 4 B.C, so the 1AD date is


    certainly

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    wrong.

    FACT- God has warned us about getting entangled with special days


    (Galations

    Quoted message said:

    4:9-10). There is no record in the Bible of people observing or


    worshipping

    Quoted message said:

    Jesus because of his birth, it is not taught, or preached. What we are
    taught though, is to remember Him in His death, but no special day was
    specified for this either, any day of the year will do. (Matthew 26:26-31;
    Mark 14:22-27; Luke 22:17-20).

    For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That
    the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And


    when

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    he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body,
    which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same


    manner

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    also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new
    testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance


    of

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    me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the
    Lords death till he come (1 Corinthians 11:23-26)

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