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  1. At the end of 1997 I got hooked up to the Internet and discovered the
    international cycling newsgroups. I soon discovered I had happened upon
    the most wonderful community. There were cyclists of all types from all
    around the world. Even if there were a few lunatics and some rude people
    the vast majority were there to share. People that became and remained
    friends, people destined never to meet but to be united for ever by
    their interest in cycling.

    The first cyclist that I exchanged private emails with was Ken Kifer.
    Over the next few years we remained net friends and my admiration and
    respect for Ken never faulted. He was always willing to join in
    discussions and debate a vast variety of cycling issues, his language on
    the net was polite and correct, but never dull,

    When Ken first dreamed up the idea of his own website he set up a test
    version and sent the link to chosen few, myself included as I was
    already running a website. I must say that Ken's first effort was. shall
    we say a case of "could do better". His site was unreadable unless you
    were using a specific browser at a specific resolution. To say that he
    developed his home page skills is an understatement and within months he
    was out of my league. As we all know his website developed into one of
    the most respected on the Internet and won awards, respect and
    acclamation from around the world.

    Ken was always willing to help, never short of advice and a great guy to
    share cycling anecdotes with. Even if Ken and I didn't maintain our
    initial frequent email contact over the years he never became a
    stranger. After a period without contact I asked his advice in the fall
    of 2000 when my then girlfriend - a design student at university - was
    involved in a futuristic concept for a car-free city. Ken became a
    source of inspiration and his ideas were of great value to the project.
    At Christmas that year Ken sent me some kind words and wished me all the
    best. I will light a candle for him this year.

    Our Mr Kifer was an advocate of safer cycling and it is no wild guess
    that there are some cyclists alive today that have survived or avoided
    would-be fatal accidents because of something learnt from Ken's website,
    if not through direct contact with the man himself. Ken's legacy lives
    on through his website and I am delighted that it is still hosted. It is
    of great importance and will undoubtedly continue to help, delight and
    charm cyclists the world over. I often refer and link to his site in
    cycling forums.

    I remember that Ken once stated that although there are plenty of safety
    measures you can take as a cyclist there really is nothing you can do
    about the drunk driver coming in the other direction. To that I add that
    is safer to cycle than not to cycle and at least you get to live and
    experience life from a interesting fulfilled perspective non-cyclists
    remain ignorant of.

    If I have one regret it is that I never met the man himself, but perhaps
    that is testimony to the cycling community on the web. We know each
    other through words and views and that is the very essence of how and
    why we know each other. It suffices.

    It was with great sadness I received news of Ken's death, one year ago
    today. I am sure that Ken rides on, in that car free city in the sky
    where all the winds are following.

    Ride on Ken, ride on.

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist
    ResIDING in Sweden

  2. "Garry Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    At the end of 1997 I got hooked up to the Internet and discovered the
    international cycling newsgroups. I soon discovered I had happened upon
    the most wonderful community. There were cyclists of all types from all
    around the world. Even if there were a few lunatics and some rude people
    the vast majority were there to share. People that became and remained
    friends, people destined never to meet but to be united for ever by
    their interest in cycling.

    The first cyclist that I exchanged private emails with was Ken Kifer.
    Over the next few years we remained net friends and my admiration and
    respect for Ken never faulted. He was always willing to join in
    discussions and debate a vast variety of cycling issues, his language on
    the net was polite and correct, but never dull,

    When Ken first dreamed up the idea of his own website he set up a test
    version and sent the link to chosen few, myself included as I was
    already running a website. I must say that Ken's first effort was. shall
    we say a case of "could do better". His site was unreadable unless you
    were using a specific browser at a specific resolution. To say that he
    developed his home page skills is an understatement and within months he
    was out of my league. As we all know his website developed into one of
    the most respected on the Internet and won awards, respect and
    acclamation from around the world.

    Ken was always willing to help, never short of advice and a great guy to
    share cycling anecdotes with. Even if Ken and I didn't maintain our
    initial frequent email contact over the years he never became a
    stranger. After a period without contact I asked his advice in the fall
    of 2000 when my then girlfriend - a design student at university - was
    involved in a futuristic concept for a car-free city. Ken became a
    source of inspiration and his ideas were of great value to the project.
    At Christmas that year Ken sent me some kind words and wished me all the
    best. I will light a candle for him this year.

    Our Mr Kifer was an advocate of safer cycling and it is no wild guess
    that there are some cyclists alive today that have survived or avoided
    would-be fatal accidents because of something learnt from Ken's website,
    if not through direct contact with the man himself. Ken's legacy lives
    on through his website and I am delighted that it is still hosted. It is
    of great importance and will undoubtedly continue to help, delight and
    charm cyclists the world over. I often refer and link to his site in
    cycling forums.

    I remember that Ken once stated that although there are plenty of safety
    measures you can take as a cyclist there really is nothing you can do
    about the drunk driver coming in the other direction. To that I add that
    is safer to cycle than not to cycle and at least you get to live and
    experience life from a interesting fulfilled perspective non-cyclists
    remain ignorant of.

    If I have one regret it is that I never met the man himself, but perhaps
    that is testimony to the cycling community on the web. We know each
    other through words and views and that is the very essence of how and
    why we know each other. It suffices.

    It was with great sadness I received news of Ken's death, one year ago
    today. I am sure that Ken rides on, in that car free city in the sky
    where all the winds are following.

    Ride on Ken, ride on.

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist
    ResIDING in Sweden

    Garry,

    That's a very nice tribute. Well done. Could you post the address for that
    website please? I've been there before, but I don't have it anymore. I
    suspect I could google on Ken's name and come up with it, but it might be a
    nice service to post it.

    To your point that it's safer to cycle than not to cycle, I'm approaching
    the 2 year anniversary of a very serious wreck where a teenage driver
    talking on a cell phone made an unsignaled left turn (she was oncoming)
    directly into my path as I was traveling through an intersection. I
    sustained numerous serious and potentially life-threatening injuries. I'll
    never forget what the doc in the ER said to me after I'd been poked and
    prodded and it had been determined that I had no internal injuries. He
    said, "If you weren't in such great shape from all your cycling, you'd
    probably be dead."

    I couldn't believe the witty reply I came up with, though I was in
    excruciating pain and probably partly in shock. I said, "yes, the bicycle
    is definately responsible for the condition I'm in today."

    I'm closing in on 9,000 miles for this year.

    Ride on!

    Bob C.

  3. psycholist said:

    "Garry Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    At the end of 1997 I got hooked up to the Internet and discovered the
    international cycling newsgroups. I soon discovered I had happened
    upon the most wonderful community. There were cyclists of all types
    from all around the world. Even if there were a few lunatics and
    some rude people the vast majority were there to share. People that
    became and remained friends, people destined never to meet but to be
    united for ever by their interest in cycling.

    The first cyclist that I exchanged private emails with was Ken Kifer.
    Over the next few years we remained net friends and my admiration and
    respect for Ken never faulted. He was always willing to join in
    discussions and debate a vast variety of cycling issues, his
    language on the net was polite and correct, but never dull,

    When Ken first dreamed up the idea of his own website he set up a
    test version and sent the link to chosen few, myself included as I
    was already running a website. I must say that Ken's first effort
    was. shall we say a case of "could do better". His site was
    unreadable unless you were using a specific browser at a specific
    resolution. To say that he developed his home page skills is an
    understatement and within months he was out of my league. As we all
    know his website developed into one of the most respected on the
    Internet and won awards, respect and acclamation from around the
    world.

    Ken was always willing to help, never short of advice and a great
    guy to share cycling anecdotes with. Even if Ken and I didn't
    maintain our initial frequent email contact over the years he never
    became a stranger. After a period without contact I asked his advice
    in the fall of 2000 when my then girlfriend - a design student at
    university - was involved in a futuristic concept for a car-free
    city. Ken became a source of inspiration and his ideas were of great
    value to the project. At Christmas that year Ken sent me some kind
    words and wished me all the best. I will light a candle for him this
    year.

    Our Mr Kifer was an advocate of safer cycling and it is no wild guess
    that there are some cyclists alive today that have survived or
    avoided would-be fatal accidents because of something learnt from
    Ken's website, if not through direct contact with the man himself.
    Ken's legacy lives on through his website and I am delighted that it
    is still hosted. It is of great importance and will undoubtedly
    continue to help, delight and charm cyclists the world over. I often
    refer and link to his site in cycling forums.

    I remember that Ken once stated that although there are plenty of
    safety measures you can take as a cyclist there really is nothing
    you can do about the drunk driver coming in the other direction. To
    that I add that is safer to cycle than not to cycle and at least you
    get to live and experience life from a interesting fulfilled
    perspective non-cyclists remain ignorant of.

    If I have one regret it is that I never met the man himself, but
    perhaps that is testimony to the cycling community on the web. We
    know each other through words and views and that is the very essence
    of how and why we know each other. It suffices.

    It was with great sadness I received news of Ken's death, one year
    ago today. I am sure that Ken rides on, in that car free city in the
    sky where all the winds are following.

    Ride on Ken, ride on.

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist
    ResIDING in Sweden

    Garry,

    That's a very nice tribute. Well done. Could you post the address
    for that website please? I've been there before, but I don't have it
    anymore. I suspect I could google on Ken's name and come up with it,
    but it might be a nice service to post it.

    To your point that it's safer to cycle than not to cycle, I'm
    approaching the 2 year anniversary of a very serious wreck where a
    teenage driver talking on a cell phone made an unsignaled left turn
    (she was oncoming) directly into my path as I was traveling through
    an intersection. I sustained numerous serious and potentially
    life-threatening injuries. I'll never forget what the doc in the ER
    said to me after I'd been poked and prodded and it had been
    determined that I had no internal injuries. He said, "If you weren't
    in such great shape from all your cycling, you'd probably be dead."

    I couldn't believe the witty reply I came up with, though I was in
    excruciating pain and probably partly in shock. I said, "yes, the
    bicycle is definately responsible for the condition I'm in today."

    I'm closing in on 9,000 miles for this year.

    Ride on!

    http://kenkifer.com/

    Bill "left all the text because it should be read more than once" S.

  4. psycholist said:

    Could you post the address for that website please?

    http://www.kenkifer.com/

    Quoted message said:

    I couldn't believe the witty reply I came up with, though I was in
    excruciating pain and probably partly in shock. I said, "yes, the bicycle
    is definately responsible for the condition I'm in today."

    Wit helps. My most serious cycling accident was in the summer of 1996, I
    broke my jaw in three places and knocked out 15 teeth. I received a
    tracheotomy in hospital and woke in intensive care two days after the
    accident. I was wired up to an ECG and drips for nutrition and morphin.
    I was told I could not walk, not talk, not sneeze, not cough, nor eat or
    drink. That all sounded very negative so I waved my hand in a pen
    writing movement. The nurse said "Oh yeah, you can write" and went to
    get a pen and paper. What's the first thing on my mind? How it went for
    the others? How my children are? How my 2 month year old baby son is?
    Nah, none of the above, I wrote "Will I be able to sing afterwards?".
    The nurse was fully surprised by this as it is said you can tell a lot
    from a man's first request after waking from anaesthetic. She thought
    that I sang in a band or a choir and replied "That shouldn't be any
    problem." I grabbed the pad back and wrote "That's great because I
    couldn't sing before".

    As said, wit can help. It conveys an underlying spirit most of us share.

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist ResIDING in Sweden

  5. "Garry Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    psycholist said:

    Could you post the address for that website please?

    http://www.kenkifer.com/

    Quoted message said:

    I couldn't believe the witty reply I came up with, though I was in
    excruciating pain and probably partly in shock. I said, "yes, the


    bicycle

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is definately responsible for the condition I'm in today."

    Wit helps. My most serious cycling accident was in the summer of 1996, I
    broke my jaw in three places and knocked out 15 teeth. I received a
    tracheotomy in hospital and woke in intensive care two days after the
    accident. I was wired up to an ECG and drips for nutrition and morphin.
    I was told I could not walk, not talk, not sneeze, not cough, nor eat or
    drink. That all sounded very negative so I waved my hand in a pen
    writing movement. The nurse said "Oh yeah, you can write" and went to
    get a pen and paper. What's the first thing on my mind? How it went for
    the others? How my children are? How my 2 month year old baby son is?
    Nah, none of the above, I wrote "Will I be able to sing afterwards?".
    The nurse was fully surprised by this as it is said you can tell a lot
    from a man's first request after waking from anaesthetic. She thought
    that I sang in a band or a choir and replied "That shouldn't be any
    problem." I grabbed the pad back and wrote "That's great because I
    couldn't sing before".

    As said, wit can help. It conveys an underlying spirit most of us share.

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist ResIDING in Sweden

    Garry,

    That's absolutely classic! I hope I don't have any sort of similar
    incident, but if I do, I hope I remember that story.

    Thanks for posting the link and the great tribute.

    Bob C.

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