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Ken Kifer

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  1. Reposted from elsewhere:

    Ken Kifer was a well-known cyclist and cycling activist who
    was killed by a drunk driver last year. (If you are not
    familiar with his writing, you will do well to visit his
    website at www.kenkifer.com)

    The driver has pled guilty to manslaughter and driving under
    the influence
    "Rodgers was sentenced to 20 years in jail. He received a
    split sentence and ordered to serve two years. Rodgers will
    then have supervised probation for five years after his
    release. He was also ordered to pay the Kifer family
    restitution of $13,000."

    "Kifer's son, Nathan Kifer, and family attorney, Joe Galda,
    recommended the sentencing and plea agreement.

    "In situations like this, we try to work with the family of
    the victim as much as possible," [DA] Perry said. "Nathan
    Kifer is a very forgiving man who genuinely wanted Rodgers
    to succeed in rehabilitation."

    http://www.thedailysentinel.com/story.lasso?wcd=1089

    Guy
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  2. you know? said:

    Reposted from elsewhere:

    Ken Kifer was a well-known cyclist and cycling activist who
    was killed by a drunk driver last year. (If you are not
    familiar with his writing, you will do well to visit his
    website at www.kenkifer.com)

    The driver has pled guilty to manslaughter and driving under
    the influence
    "Rodgers was sentenced to 20 years in jail. He received a
    split sentence and ordered to serve two years. Rodgers will
    then have supervised probation for five years after his
    release. He was also ordered to pay the Kifer family
    restitution of $13,000."

    I don't understand US law or sentences so am not sure how to read
    this. 20 years sounds about right but 2 plus a fine is paltry.

    Quoted message said:

    "Kifer's son, Nathan Kifer, and family attorney, Joe Galda,
    recommended the sentencing and plea agreement.

    "In situations like this, we try to work with the family of
    the victim as much as possible," [DA] Perry said. "Nathan
    Kifer is a very forgiving man who genuinely wanted Rodgers
    to succeed in rehabilitation."

    If I ever end my days under the wheels or across the bonnet of a
    criminal driver I hope and expect my next of kin to be an awful lot
    less forgiving.

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.thedailysentinel.com/story.lasso?wcd=1089

    Guy

  3. Not Responding said:

    If I ever end my days under the wheels or across the bonnet of a
    criminal driver I hope and expect my next of kin to be an awful lot
    less forgiving.

    If I end my days in such a way....it will be for my next of kin to
    decide how much they forgive, rather than for me to leave instructions!

    I think it is great when victims can forgive and forget. I don't think
    the law should do so so easily.

    James
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    If I have seen further than others, it is
    by treading on the toes of giants.
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/

  4. On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:07:03 +0900, James Annan
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If I ever end my days under the wheels or across the bonnet of a
    criminal driver I hope and expect my next of kin to be an awful lot
    less forgiving.

    Quoted message said:

    If I end my days in such a way....it will be for my next of kin to
    decide how much they forgive, rather than for me to leave instructions!

    If I etc. etc., I sincerely hope my next of kin will use the really
    rusty, blunt pair of shears when they CUT HIS GOOLIES OFF!

    :-D

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  5. Not Responding said:
    Quoted message said:

    "In situations like this, we try to work with the family of
    the victim as much as possible," [DA] Perry said. "Nathan
    Kifer is a very forgiving man who genuinely wanted Rodgers
    to succeed in rehabilitation."

    If I ever end my days under the wheels or across the bonnet of a
    criminal driver I hope and expect my next of kin to be an awful lot
    less forgiving.

    Given that when Rodgers hit Mr Kifer, (ISTR) he had just been released
    after having been stopped for driving under the influence, I suspect
    Nathan K is under some delusion as to the likelihood of success of
    rehabilitation.

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