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    From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
    Date: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:27 am
    Subject: Jerry Orbach

    Jerry Orbach

    In the mid 1970s I saw Jerry Orbach perform
    on Broadway in "42nd Street". A few years later,
    I ran into Mr. Orbach at an (illegal) after hours
    gambling club on New York City's east side. The
    man liked to drink, and the man liked to party,
    but so did we all in those days, and my memories
    of Orbach are warm and personal. His most recent
    performances as a detective on "Law and Order" will
    run forever and a lifetime in syndication. Orbach
    captured bad guy after bad guy, and seemed immune
    from all dangers, save one. Prostate cancer.

    Thousands of articles are to be written about
    Jerry Orbach's life and death. We learn by a man's
    experiences, and the sum value of all that a man is
    and was remains as a final bridge between our memory
    and love and respect. No man should die at age 69,
    particularly from such a painful and devastating
    death caused by prostate cancer. My own dear
    friend and webmaster, Dave Rietz died from its
    affects just one year ago. Although Orbach's family
    kept the news of his illness and suffering private,
    Dave left his own poignant diary of the last year of
    his own life. His last entry was made in November of
    2003. Mr. Orbach experienced much the same:

    <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/1462>

    Had I been given the opportunity to go back in time
    and speak with Jerry Orbach 12 years ago, when his run
    on "Law and Order" began, and when his prostate cancer was
    first diagnosed, I would have shared the following:

    "For prostate cancer, epidemiologic
    studies consistently show a positive
    association with high consumption of
    milk, dairy products, and meats."

    Giovannucci E., Adv Exp Med Biol
    1999;472:29-42

    "Cases also reported more frequent
    consumption of milk and other dairy
    products and meat, but no significant
    difference was noted for
    vegetable intake."

    Talamini R, Br J Cancer
    1986 Jun;53(6):817-21

    "Higher intake of meat and dairy products
    has been associated with greater risk of
    prostate cancer..."

    Willett WC, Salud Publica Mex
    1997, Jul-Aug;39(4):298-309

    "Positive correlations between foods and
    cancer mortality rates were particularly
    strong in the case of meats and milk for
    breast cancer, milk for prostate and
    ovarian cancer, and meats for colon
    cancer."

    Rose DP, Cancer
    1986 Dec 1;58(11):2363-71

    "Diet appears to be a major determinant
    in the incidence of prostate cancer. In
    a case-control study conducted in Athens,
    Greece, we found that dairy products,
    butter and seed oils were positively
    associated with risk of prostate cancer,
    whereas cooked and raw tomatoes were
    inversely associated."

    Bosetti C, Eur J Cancer Prev
    2000, Apr;9(2):119-23

    "Diets high in dairy products and meats
    are related to higher risk of prostate
    cancer incidence or mortality in most
    ecologic, case-control, and prospective
    studies."

    Giovannucci E., Cancer Causes Control
    1998, Dec;9(6):567-82

    "Suggestive positive associations were
    also seen between fatal prostate cancer
    and the consumption of milk, cheese,
    eggs, and meat. "

    Snowdon DA,Am J Epidemiol
    1984, Aug;120(2):244-50

    "The strongest and most consistent
    effects are positive associations
    with animal products such as red
    meats, eggs and dairy foods, and
    possibly by implication, fat."

    Giles G, Ireland P., Int J Cancer
    1997; Suppl 10:13-7

    "Among major food groups, milk and dairy
    products as well as added lipids were
    marginally positively associated with
    risk for prostate cancer."

    Tzonou A, Int J Cancer
    1999, Mar 1;80(5):704-8

    "High consumption of dairy products was
    associated with a 50 percent increased
    risk of prostate cancer. "

    Chan JM, Cancer Causes Control
    1998 Dec;9(6):559-66

    "Positive trends in risk were found
    for consumption of cured meat and
    milk products. "

    Schuurman AG, Br J Cancer
    1999, Jun;80(7):1107-13

    "Biomarkers, including testosterone and
    insulin-like growth factor, and
    nutritional factors, especially meat,
    fat, and dairy intake, have been linked
    to greater risk of disease. "

    Chan JM, Semin Cancer Biol
    1998, Aug;8(4):263-73

    Robert Cohen
    http://www.notmilk.com

  2. Quoted message said:


    .

    From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
    Date: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:27 am
    Subject: Jerry Orbach

    Jerry Orbach

    In the mid 1970s I saw Jerry Orbach perform
    on Broadway in "42nd Street". A few years later,
    I ran into Mr. Orbach at an (illegal) after hours
    gambling club on New York City's east side. The
    man liked to drink, and the man liked to party,
    but so did we all in those days, and my memories
    of Orbach are warm and personal. His most recent
    performances as a detective on "Law and Order" will
    run forever and a lifetime in syndication. Orbach
    captured bad guy after bad guy, and seemed immune
    from all dangers, save one. Prostate cancer.

    Thousands of articles are to be written about
    Jerry Orbach's life and death. We learn by a man's
    experiences, and the sum value of all that a man is
    and was remains as a final bridge between our memory
    and love and respect. No man should die at age 69,
    particularly from such a painful and devastating
    death caused by prostate cancer. My own dear
    friend and webmaster, Dave Rietz died from its
    affects just one year ago. Although Orbach's family
    kept the news of his illness and suffering private,
    Dave left his own poignant diary of the last year of
    his own life. His last entry was made in November of
    2003. Mr. Orbach experienced much the same:

    <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/1462>

    Had I been given the opportunity to go back in time
    and speak with Jerry Orbach 12 years ago, when his run
    on "Law and Order" began, and when his prostate cancer was
    first diagnosed, I would have shared the following:

    "For prostate cancer, epidemiologic
    studies consistently show a positive
    association with high consumption of
    milk, dairy products, and meats."

    Giovannucci E., Adv Exp Med Biol
    1999;472:29-42

    "Cases also reported more frequent
    consumption of milk and other dairy
    products and meat, but no significant
    difference was noted for
    vegetable intake."

    Talamini R, Br J Cancer
    1986 Jun;53(6):817-21

    "Higher intake of meat and dairy products
    has been associated with greater risk of
    prostate cancer..."

    Willett WC, Salud Publica Mex
    1997, Jul-Aug;39(4):298-309

    "Positive correlations between foods and
    cancer mortality rates were particularly
    strong in the case of meats and milk for
    breast cancer, milk for prostate and
    ovarian cancer, and meats for colon
    cancer."

    Rose DP, Cancer
    1986 Dec 1;58(11):2363-71

    "Diet appears to be a major determinant
    in the incidence of prostate cancer. In
    a case-control study conducted in Athens,
    Greece, we found that dairy products,
    butter and seed oils were positively
    associated with risk of prostate cancer,
    whereas cooked and raw tomatoes were
    inversely associated."

    Bosetti C, Eur J Cancer Prev
    2000, Apr;9(2):119-23

    "Diets high in dairy products and meats
    are related to higher risk of prostate
    cancer incidence or mortality in most
    ecologic, case-control, and prospective
    studies."

    Giovannucci E., Cancer Causes Control
    1998, Dec;9(6):567-82

    "Suggestive positive associations were
    also seen between fatal prostate cancer
    and the consumption of milk, cheese,
    eggs, and meat. "

    Snowdon DA,Am J Epidemiol
    1984, Aug;120(2):244-50

    "The strongest and most consistent
    effects are positive associations
    with animal products such as red
    meats, eggs and dairy foods, and
    possibly by implication, fat."

    Giles G, Ireland P., Int J Cancer
    1997; Suppl 10:13-7

    "Among major food groups, milk and dairy
    products as well as added lipids were
    marginally positively associated with
    risk for prostate cancer."

    Tzonou A, Int J Cancer
    1999, Mar 1;80(5):704-8

    "High consumption of dairy products was
    associated with a 50 percent increased
    risk of prostate cancer. "

    Chan JM, Cancer Causes Control
    1998 Dec;9(6):559-66

    "Positive trends in risk were found
    for consumption of cured meat and
    milk products. "

    Schuurman AG, Br J Cancer
    1999, Jun;80(7):1107-13

    "Biomarkers, including testosterone and
    insulin-like growth factor, and
    nutritional factors, especially meat,
    fat, and dairy intake, have been linked
    to greater risk of disease. "

    Chan JM, Semin Cancer Biol
    1998, Aug;8(4):263-73

    Robert Cohen
    http://www.notmilk.com


    If you live long enough and are male the chance of getting
    prostrate cancer is well over 80% regardless what you eat. Maybe
    the reason that the diet you blame for prostate cancer is linked
    to it is because those eating it live longer than those that don't.

    Gordon Couger
    Stillwater, OK
    www.TakeThisOUTcouger.com/gcouger

  3. Quoted message said:


    .

    From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
    Date: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:27 am
    Subject: Jerry Orbach

    Jerry Orbach

    In the mid 1970s I saw Jerry Orbach perform
    on Broadway in "42nd Street". A few years later,
    I ran into Mr. Orbach at an (illegal) after hours
    gambling club on New York City's east side. The
    man liked to drink, and the man liked to party,
    but so did we all in those days, and my memories
    of Orbach are warm and personal. His most recent
    performances as a detective on "Law and Order" will
    run forever and a lifetime in syndication. Orbach
    captured bad guy after bad guy, and seemed immune
    from all dangers, save one. Prostate cancer.

    Thousands of articles are to be written about
    Jerry Orbach's life and death. We learn by a man's
    experiences, and the sum value of all that a man is
    and was remains as a final bridge between our memory
    and love and respect. No man should die at age 69,
    particularly from such a painful and devastating
    death caused by prostate cancer. My own dear
    friend and webmaster, Dave Rietz died from its
    affects just one year ago. Although Orbach's family
    kept the news of his illness and suffering private,
    Dave left his own poignant diary of the last year of
    his own life. His last entry was made in November of
    2003. Mr. Orbach experienced much the same:

    <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/1462>

    Had I been given the opportunity to go back in time
    and speak with Jerry Orbach 12 years ago, when his run
    on "Law and Order" began, and when his prostate cancer was
    first diagnosed, I would have shared the following:

    "For prostate cancer, epidemiologic
    studies consistently show a positive
    association with high consumption of
    milk, dairy products, and meats."

    Giovannucci E., Adv Exp Med Biol
    1999;472:29-42

    "Cases also reported more frequent
    consumption of milk and other dairy
    products and meat, but no significant
    difference was noted for
    vegetable intake."

    Talamini R, Br J Cancer
    1986 Jun;53(6):817-21

    "Higher intake of meat and dairy products
    has been associated with greater risk of
    prostate cancer..."

    Willett WC, Salud Publica Mex
    1997, Jul-Aug;39(4):298-309

    "Positive correlations between foods and
    cancer mortality rates were particularly
    strong in the case of meats and milk for
    breast cancer, milk for prostate and
    ovarian cancer, and meats for colon
    cancer."

    Rose DP, Cancer
    1986 Dec 1;58(11):2363-71

    "Diet appears to be a major determinant
    in the incidence of prostate cancer. In
    a case-control study conducted in Athens,
    Greece, we found that dairy products,
    butter and seed oils were positively
    associated with risk of prostate cancer,
    whereas cooked and raw tomatoes were
    inversely associated."

    Bosetti C, Eur J Cancer Prev
    2000, Apr;9(2):119-23

    "Diets high in dairy products and meats
    are related to higher risk of prostate
    cancer incidence or mortality in most
    ecologic, case-control, and prospective
    studies."

    Giovannucci E., Cancer Causes Control
    1998, Dec;9(6):567-82

    "Suggestive positive associations were
    also seen between fatal prostate cancer
    and the consumption of milk, cheese,
    eggs, and meat. "

    Snowdon DA,Am J Epidemiol
    1984, Aug;120(2):244-50

    "The strongest and most consistent
    effects are positive associations
    with animal products such as red
    meats, eggs and dairy foods, and
    possibly by implication, fat."

    Giles G, Ireland P., Int J Cancer
    1997; Suppl 10:13-7

    "Among major food groups, milk and dairy
    products as well as added lipids were
    marginally positively associated with
    risk for prostate cancer."

    Tzonou A, Int J Cancer
    1999, Mar 1;80(5):704-8

    "High consumption of dairy products was
    associated with a 50 percent increased
    risk of prostate cancer. "

    Chan JM, Cancer Causes Control
    1998 Dec;9(6):559-66

    "Positive trends in risk were found
    for consumption of cured meat and
    milk products. "

    Schuurman AG, Br J Cancer
    1999, Jun;80(7):1107-13

    "Biomarkers, including testosterone and
    insulin-like growth factor, and
    nutritional factors, especially meat,
    fat, and dairy intake, have been linked
    to greater risk of disease. "

    Chan JM, Semin Cancer Biol
    1998, Aug;8(4):263-73

    Robert Cohen
    http://www.notmilk.com


    If you live long enough and are male the chance of getting
    prostrate cancer is well over 80% regardless what you eat. Maybe
    the reason that the diet you blame for prostate cancer is linked
    to it is because those eating it live longer than those that don't.

    Gordon Couger
    Stillwater, OK
    www.TakeThisOUTcouger.com/gcouger

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