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  1. Too many hours on the Coker can lead my mind down many
    philosophical paths, especially when the 125 mm cranks put
    many real paths out of bounds.

    For example: this forum raises epistemological questions -
    questions about the nature of knowledge, and what we can
    actually know. How do any of you know that I exist at all?
    If indeed, any of you exist... Clearly someone is writing
    this, unless you're imagining reading it, but how do you
    know I really have done the rides that I've written up over
    the last year or two? A few of you (Unicus, Onewheeldave,
    Arnold the Aardvark, and a few others) have met me, but have
    you met them? And they never saw me do the rides.

    But there's more to philosophy than the old 6th form
    question, "Ah, but how do you know this is a table/ I owe
    you a beer/ I won't respect you in the morning?" Read on:

    If we are to believe Plato, Socrates believed that virtue
    was a kind of knowledge. He argued that no man would
    knowingly do something wrong. Therefore, if a man did
    something wrong, it was because he was deficient in the
    knowledge of what was right. A modern comparison can be made
    with my ex wife who argued that no man could do anything
    right, knowingly or otherwise.

    Of course, Socrates' theory leaves open the question of how
    something can be objectively right or wrong; and if it is,
    how can we know?

    Sartre (a particularly contemplative cheese eating surrender
    monkey) looked at the argument in a different way. He
    believed that each man did what he thought was justified in
    the circumstances. Man is a rationalising animal (rather
    than a rational animal) and can come up with a superficially
    valid justification for almost anything. It is never
    possible to know exactly how someone reaches a decision,
    because our motives are multi-layered (c.f. Shrek: "Ogres
    are like onions"😉 and sometimes hidden even from ourselves,
    so we can only judge a man by what he decides, and we can
    only tell what he decides by what he actually does.

    This contrasts with Milligan's concept of the hero with
    coward's legs.

    So, here's me riding around the big lake this evening. It's
    been a bad day at work (maintaining an unbroken record of
    bad days at work over 22 years) and the beautiful weather
    which grinned maliciously in through the office window all
    day became a scowling brat of rain and chill winds by the
    time I left. Uninspired, I decide simply to get some miles
    in... and perhaps to do the 25 miles without a dismount.

    I make it to the lake without incident, except that the path
    is blocked with deep puddles in many places and, try as I
    might, I can't avoid getting a soaking. A Coker wheel in a
    puddle is like a water wheel in reverse, the water
    extracting the energy from the wheel as it is thrown up into
    the millstream of the rider's backside.

    Onto the lake side, and I make the first lap in pretty good
    time; Part way round the second lap (each lap is around 3
    miles) I'm in my stride, but starting to feel the pressure
    on the seat. By the start of the third lap, my legs are
    starting to feel the strain. I've been "in the zone" and
    pedalling a little faster than I should.

    So, the existentialism starts to bite in lap three. The
    internal dialogue starts: You don't have to do this. No, but
    I can't stop now. Why not? Because... Because what? You've
    done about 10 miles. It would be a pity to waste that. Yes,
    but that means I've as far to go again - and then some. You
    know you can do it. So, if I know, why do I have to prove
    it? It's a challenge. A pretty pointless one. Yes, but all
    unicycling is pointless. Look, this is one of those cases
    where I have to grit my teeth and push on. I'm bound to have
    a low point in a long ride. But why have a low point when
    you're only doing it for fun. But the fun comes from the
    achievement. Pretty daft sort of fun. If I didn't have these
    short cranks on, I could be achieving some obstacles,
    instead of just an arbitrary number. But you've set a
    challenge, you can't wimp out now. But I have to bear in
    mind the effects. I'll be fencing for 3 hours tomorrow, And?
    And I am 41 you know. You've read your Sartre. You are what
    you decide. Are you going to decide to stop? Ha! Am I going
    to decide to carry on, just because I daren't decide not to?

    At this point, I notice my feet are cold, because I've
    splashed through far too many puddles, and it's blowing a
    chill wind. Motorcyclists have a horror of cold feet. Once
    they go cold, they take a lot of warming up.

    Existentially, I'm now a certified wimp. I didn't do the 25
    miles, or even the 20... or the 15...

    And, to serve me right, it looks like my computer's lost the
    "score" for the ride. I know I stopped at 11.7 miles after
    1:12, so I guess I did about 12.5 miles in around 1:20. Not
    a bad ride, but I really wasn't up for it tonight.

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Some days you're the fly; some days you're the windscreen. When you're
    the fly, you get to eat [censored].
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  2. Mikefule pondered:

    Quoted message said:

    How do any of you know that I exist at all? If indeed, any
    of you exist... Clearly someone is writing this, unless
    you're imagining reading it,

    Or you are a fine example of a Turing machine.

    Quoted message said:

    A few of you (Unicus, Onewheeldave, Arnold the Aardvark,
    and a few others) have met me, but have you met them? And
    they never saw me do the rides.

    I know Arnold (and quite possibly the others, although not
    by their pseudonyms). But curiously you've never come up in
    conversation. Perhaps you really don't exist.

    Quoted message said:

    A modern comparison can be made with my ex wife who argued
    that no man could do anything right, knowingly or
    otherwise.

    Which leads to the age old question: "If a man says
    something and no woman is around to hear him, is he still
    wrong?" Both my mother and my wife have informed me that the
    answer is unequivocally "Yes."

    Quoted message said:

    I make it to the lake without incident, except that the
    path is blocked with deep puddles in many places and, try
    as I might, I can't avoid getting a soaking. A Coker wheel
    in a puddle is like a water wheel in reverse, the water
    extracting the energy from the wheel as it is thrown up
    into the millstream of the rider's backside.

    You need a mudguard, mate. An imaginary one should do ;-)

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my
    reply address)
    <url:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/> "He who
    dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  3. Some questions to ponder:

    How do you know you did a ride today?

    Did you have fun?

    If everything is so flexible, how do you know you *only*
    rode as many miles as you did? Maybe it was many more?

    --
    johnfoss - Walkin' on the edge

    John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
    "jfoss" at "unicycling.com"
    www.unicycling.com

    "I should be wearing a helmet here -- so should you." -- George Peck,
    who prefers not to wear one, in the 1991 video Rough Terrain Unicycling
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  4. Mikefule said:

    * How do any of you know that I exist at all? *

    If you think about it long enough, you will begin to believe
    only "thoughts" exist. Time is the movement of thought.
    Distance is impossible to prove.

    YES, BUT ALL UNICYCLING IS POINTLESS.[/B] I AM GLAD
    \"SOMEONE ELSE\" HAD THIS THOUGHT PROCESS WHILE RIDING 😄

    *EXISTENTIALLY, I'M NOW A CERTIFIED WIMP. I DIDN'T DO THE 25
    MILES, OR EVEN THE 20... OR THE 15... Don't think of it that
    way, especially because "we all" know that you will attempt
    the 25 UPDless ride again later.

    [B]And, to serve me right, it looks like my computer's
    lost the "score"* I *hate* when that happens. Miles on
    a unicycle are too hard-earned for me to be
    comfortable with the computer ignoring revolutions.
    Another thought I have had: Is the first revolution
    counted? If not, how much farther have I gone? (I
    often mount 200+ times per day)

    --
    ChangingLINKS.com - member

    Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter,
    Drew Brown
    changinglinks.comchanginglinks.com
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  5. If you are a wimp for only doing 12 miles. what am I for not even
    thinking of doing 12 miles!:eek: I have done 6 miles on a 20".😄 Or
    have I?😕

    --
    bugman - Survivor 2004 Wolfman Duathalon
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