JD-FYI

(PeteCresswell) said:

Per G.T.:

Quoted message said:

Why do the MTBidiots wear so much body armor?

When I checked out the pix of Penny's new trail I got a much better
handle on why people wear the stuff.

oh, yawn, go ahead and pick on me for helping to build a trail that's aimed
at lower level riders. The hard line was left for any one that wants it.

Does 10% of the man-hours make it mine? Cool.

p.

(PeteCresswell) said:

Per p e t e f a g e r l i n:

Quoted message said:

Meaning that people wear armor on XC rides because
it's now "part of the uniform" or Penny's new
trail was dumbed down so many people would feel
comfortable riding it without armor whereas the
original trail was somehow armor-worthy?

I'm pretty sure the pic that prompted my observation was old trail.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3132sm.jpg

Lots of sharp, pyramid-type outcroppings - seemingly unavoidable in any fall.
Looked to me like if I took a spill there, next stop would be the ER - if I were
lucky...

As opposed to http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3142sm.jpg, which is
something I can relate to a *lot* better...

But, as she has stated, the old trail is still there as an alternate
(deadly) route.

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Quoted message said:

Per p e t e f a g e r l i n:

Quoted message said:

Meaning that people wear armor on XC rides because
it's now "part of the uniform" or Penny's new
trail was dumbed down so many people would feel
comfortable riding it without armor whereas the
original trail was somehow armor-worthy?

I'm pretty sure the pic that prompted my observation was old trail.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3132sm.jpg

Lots of sharp, pyramid-type outcroppings - seemingly unavoidable in any

fall.

Quoted message said:

Looked to me like if I took a spill there, next stop would be the ER - if

I were

Quoted message said:

lucky...

As opposed to http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3142sm.jpg, which

is

Quoted message said:

something I can relate to a *lot* better...

How come Pete Cresswell's posts are all 3 hours in the future? Everyone
else's posts get switched to my local time.

Greg

G.T. said:

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Quoted message said:

Per p e t e f a g e r l i n:

Quoted message said:

Meaning that people wear armor on XC rides because
it's now "part of the uniform" or Penny's new
trail was dumbed down so many people would feel
comfortable riding it without armor whereas the
original trail was somehow armor-worthy?

I'm pretty sure the pic that prompted my observation was old trail.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3132sm.jpg

Lots of sharp, pyramid-type outcroppings - seemingly unavoidable in
any fall. Looked to me like if I took a spill there, next stop would
be the ER - if I were lucky...

As opposed to http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3142sm.jpg,
which is something I can relate to a *lot* better...

How come Pete Cresswell's posts are all 3 hours in the future?
Everyone else's posts get switched to my local time.

Greg

doesn't it have to do with how an individual's computer clock is set? If I
set my clock to tomorrow or next week, all my posts would stay on top if
you sort by decending order.

ps

(PeteCresswell) said:

Per p e t e f a g e r l i n:

Quoted message said:

Meaning that people wear armor on XC rides because
it's now "part of the uniform" or Penny's new
trail was dumbed down so many people would feel
comfortable riding it without armor whereas the
original trail was somehow armor-worthy?

I'm pretty sure the pic that prompted my observation was old trail.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3132sm.jpg

Lots of sharp, pyramid-type outcroppings - seemingly unavoidable in
any fall. Looked to me like if I took a spill there, next stop would
be the ER - if I were lucky...

that has happened to more than a few folks. I personally know of two busted
pelvises. (pelvii?) It's certainly not any "fun" as a technical route, it
just is what it is.

I put beginners in armor on it when they want to tackle it for the first
time, what's the harm in that?

Quoted message said:

As opposed to http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3142sm.jpg,
which is something I can relate to a *lot* better...

choices are good.

p.

G.T. said:

"(PeteCresswell)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Per p e t e f a g e r l i n:

Quoted message said:

Meaning that people wear armor on XC rides because
it's now "part of the uniform" or Penny's new
trail was dumbed down so many people would feel
comfortable riding it without armor whereas the
original trail was somehow armor-worthy?

I'm pretty sure the pic that prompted my observation was old trail.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3132sm.jpg

Lots of sharp, pyramid-type outcroppings - seemingly unavoidable in any

fall.

Quoted message said:

Looked to me like if I took a spill there, next stop would be the ER - if

I were

Quoted message said:

lucky...

As opposed to http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3142sm.jpg, which

is

Quoted message said:

something I can relate to a *lot* better...

How come Pete Cresswell's posts are all 3 hours in the future? Everyone
else's posts get switched to my local time.

Greg

His Flux Capacitor must be on the fritz.

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www.schnauzers.ws

(PeteCresswell) said:

Per p e t e f a g e r l i n:

Quoted message said:

Meaning that people wear armor on XC rides because
it's now "part of the uniform" or Penny's new
trail was dumbed down so many people would feel
comfortable riding it without armor whereas the
original trail was somehow armor-worthy?

I'm pretty sure the pic that prompted my observation was old trail.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3132sm.jpg

Lots of sharp, pyramid-type outcroppings - seemingly unavoidable in
any fall. Looked to me like if I took a spill there, next stop would
be the ER - if I were lucky...

As opposed to http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3142sm.jpg,
which is something I can relate to a *lot* better...

here's a couple more of the harder line.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3149sm.jpg
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3150sm.jpg

it's really hard to take an effective photo of it - or I don't know how. It
goes all the way around to the right. It's not "that" hard, just a lot of
loose fitting and really erosion prone. It changes all the time. Sure, it's
rideable with a modicum of skill, but it's not one of those things you get
to the bottom of and have a big [censored] eating grin on your face because the
amount of skill required was inspirational. The new trail, while much
easier, has some flow and rhythm to it, has a really fun corner, plus there
are are two places to catch air.

The state park is the realm of easy trails and lots of beginner/int.
riders. It's where you take your newbie friends, or when you want to knock
off 15 miles of trail going really fast. If you want technical, we've got
better places for you go ride.

Besides, we are not going to touch there trails:
http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/penny/biking/images/RSP/shoreline2.jpg
http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/penny/biking/images/RSP/shoreline4.jpg

P.

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G.T. said:

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Quoted message said:

Per p e t e f a g e r l i n:
> Meaning that people wear armor on XC rides because
> it's now "part of the uniform" or Penny's new
> trail was dumbed down so many people would feel
> comfortable riding it without armor whereas the
> original trail was somehow armor-worthy?

I'm pretty sure the pic that prompted my observation was old trail.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3132sm.jpg

Lots of sharp, pyramid-type outcroppings - seemingly unavoidable in
any fall. Looked to me like if I took a spill there, next stop would
be the ER - if I were lucky...

As opposed to http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3142sm.jpg,
which is something I can relate to a *lot* better...

How come Pete Cresswell's posts are all 3 hours in the future?
Everyone else's posts get switched to my local time.

Greg

doesn't it have to do with how an individual's computer clock is set? If

I

Quoted message said:

set my clock to tomorrow or next week, all my posts would stay on top if
you sort by decending order.

Yes, but I have a feeling his time is right. I think his timezone is not
being passed on correctly.

Greg

Per p e t e f a g e r l i n:

Quoted message said:

Meaning that people wear armor on XC rides because
it's now "part of the uniform" or Penny's new
trail was dumbed down so many people would feel
comfortable riding it without armor whereas the
original trail was somehow armor-worthy?

I'm pretty sure the pic that prompted my observation was old trail.
http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3132sm.jpg

Lots of sharp, pyramid-type outcroppings - seemingly unavoidable in any fall.
Looked to me like if I took a spill there, next stop would be the ER - if I were
lucky...

As opposed to http://www.fttrc.org/photos/rs/devils/IMG_3142sm.jpg, which is
something I can relate to a *lot* better...
--
PeteCresswell

Dean A. Stepper said:

Winston, has posted pictures and videos of The Paths Sunday ride. Nice
footage of you rolling the Viejo Tie Boulder.

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=141174

So, mtbr allows photos of politically incorrect people on their website
now? I'm surprised they didn't ban Winston for that, the way they are
going on over in that mess.

As far as riding with The Path bunch goes, it was a lot of fun and on a
really cool trail. They're pretty laid back and definitely have cool
trail selections for their rides.

JD RR to follow later

Now that's interesting... The Path and I are the same crowd; and was
amused when told that a certain somebody has seeked his way to ride
with us. Hmmm...

See ya'll Sunday.

Some of the choicer scenic photos from my recent SoCal ride:

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4265.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4272.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4287.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4302_BIG.JPG
(eh, big!)

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4322.JPG

Tam Pham
http://www.fooriders.com

Quoted message said:

"I don't think I could ever ride with a group that seems to never shut
up and just ride. All of that "woohoo" stuff is quite a joke. It
sure took away from what looks like a fantastic trail in a (normally)
serene setting. Enjoy your crowd, someone has to."

JD said:

So, mtbr allows photos of politically incorrect people on their website
now? I'm surprised they didn't ban Winston for that, the way they are
going on over in that mess.

Hrmmm... It seems that all of Winston's Path Ride photos and videos are
actually a linked in from my private chainedrevolution.com site. Food
for thought there, big guy.

Quoted message said:

As far as riding with The Path bunch goes, it was a lot of fun and on a
really cool trail. They're pretty laid back and definitely have cool
trail selections for their rides.

Yes... and the "cool trail selections" could use some extra hands for
trail maintenance this winter. Los Pinos official brushing is November
19th with additional backcountry trails scheduled through spring. For
those who ride these trails and want to keep them rideable, do the
right thing.

Tam Pham
http://www.fooriders.com

Quoted message said:

Now that's interesting... The Path and I are the same crowd; and was
amused when told that a certain somebody has seeked his way to ride
with us. Hmmm...

See ya'll Sunday.

Some of the choicer scenic photos from my recent SoCal ride:

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4265.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4272.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4287.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4302_BIG.JPG
(eh, big!)

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4322.JPG

Tam Pham
http://www.fooriders.com

Quoted message said:

"I don't think I could ever ride with a group that seems to never shut
up and just ride. All of that "woohoo" stuff is quite a joke. It
sure took away from what looks like a fantastic trail in a (normally)
serene setting. Enjoy your crowd, someone has to."

It's water under the bridge, dude. Does it really matter who you ride
with or what was said in the past? We all have big mouths at some point
in our lives. Take the humble pie for what it's worth and just ride.

BTW, nice pics.

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www.schnauzers.ws

Ride-A-Lot said:

Quoted message said:

Now that's interesting... The Path and I are the same crowd; and was
amused when told that a certain somebody has seeked his way to ride
with us. Hmmm...

See ya'll Sunday.

Some of the choicer scenic photos from my recent SoCal ride:

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4265.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4272.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4287.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4302_BIG.JPG
(eh, big!)

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4322.JPG

Tam Pham
http://www.fooriders.com

Quoted message said:

"I don't think I could ever ride with a group that seems to never shut
up and just ride. All of that "woohoo" stuff is quite a joke. It
sure took away from what looks like a fantastic trail in a (normally)
serene setting. Enjoy your crowd, someone has to."

It's water under the bridge, dude. Does it really matter who you ride
with or what was said in the past? We all have big mouths at some point
in our lives. Take the humble pie for what it's worth and just ride.

Does that mean you're going to ride with Bob Rogers this weekend?

tillio said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

Quoted message said:

Now that's interesting... The Path and I are the same crowd; and was
amused when told that a certain somebody has seeked his way to ride
with us. Hmmm...

See ya'll Sunday.

Some of the choicer scenic photos from my recent SoCal ride:

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4265.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4272.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4287.JPG

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4302_BIG.JPG
(eh, big!)

http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4322.JPG

Tam Pham
http://www.fooriders.com

> "I don't think I could ever ride with a group that seems to never shut
> up and just ride. All of that "woohoo" stuff is quite a joke. It
> sure took away from what looks like a fantastic trail in a (normally)
> serene setting. Enjoy your crowd, someone has to."

It's water under the bridge, dude. Does it really matter who you ride
with or what was said in the past? We all have big mouths at some point
in our lives. Take the humble pie for what it's worth and just ride.

Does that mean you're going to ride with Bob Rogers this weekend?

Maybe, if he actually road a bicycle. I think that situation is quite
different, however. There is a difference between an inciteful troll
and an opinionated rider. I have issues with some of the people I
currently ride with, but we all remain cordial on the trail. It can be
done.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Ride-A-Lot said:

tillio said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

[email hidden] wrote:
> Now that's interesting... The Path and I are the same crowd; and was
> amused when told that a certain somebody has seeked his way to ride
> with us. Hmmm...
>
> See ya'll Sunday.
>
> Some of the choicer scenic photos from my recent SoCal ride:
>
> http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4265.JPG
>
> http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4272.JPG
>
> http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4287.JPG
>
> http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4302_BIG.JPG
> (eh, big!)
>
> http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/rides/4by40/IMG_4322.JPG
>
>
> Tam Pham
> http://www.fooriders.com
>
>
>
>> "I don't think I could ever ride with a group that seems to never shut
>> up and just ride. All of that "woohoo" stuff is quite a joke. It
>> sure took away from what looks like a fantastic trail in a (normally)
>> serene setting. Enjoy your crowd, someone has to."

It's water under the bridge, dude. Does it really matter who you ride
with or what was said in the past? We all have big mouths at some point
in our lives. Take the humble pie for what it's worth and just ride.

Does that mean you're going to ride with Bob Rogers this weekend?

Maybe, if he actually road a bicycle. I think that situation is quite
different, however. There is a difference between an inciteful troll
and an opinionated rider. I have issues with some of the people I
currently ride with, but we all remain cordial on the trail. It can be
done.

If you were a child he would ride you.

Point taken though.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's water under the bridge, dude. Does it really matter who you ride
with or what was said in the past? We all have big mouths at some point
in our lives. Take the humble pie for what it's worth and just ride.

Does that mean you're going to ride with Bob Rogers this weekend?

you are obsessed aren't you. name change noted hypocrite.

Quoted message said:

JD said:

So, mtbr allows photos of politically incorrect people on their website
now? I'm surprised they didn't ban Winston for that, the way they are
going on over in that mess.

Hrmmm... It seems that all of Winston's Path Ride photos and videos are
actually a linked in from my private chainedrevolution.com site. Food
for thought there, big guy.

Why don't you take all of those photos of me off of your private web
site? It might make you feel better. In fact, I implore you to remove
them. Your acting as if I owe you for anything is childish at best.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As far as riding with The Path bunch goes, it was a lot of fun and on a
really cool trail. They're pretty laid back and definitely have cool
trail selections for their rides.

Yes... and the "cool trail selections" could use some extra hands for
trail maintenance this winter. Los Pinos official brushing is November
19th with additional backcountry trails scheduled through spring. For
those who ride these trails and want to keep them rideable, do the
right thing.

Tam Pham
http://www.fooriders.com

Do the right thing yourself and get off of my leg. You have no idea
what levels of mountain bike trail advocacy I have been involved in
since before you decided to leave your bmx bike, so save it.

JD

Quoted message said:

Now that's interesting... The Path and I are the same crowd; and was
amused when told that a certain somebody has seeked his way to ride
with us. Hmmm...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"I don't think I could ever ride with a group that seems to never shut
up and just ride. All of that "woohoo" stuff is quite a joke. It
sure took away from what looks like a fantastic trail in a (normally)
serene setting. Enjoy your crowd, someone has to."

I didn't see you there. As far as having sought (sic) my way, all I
did was ride with a bike shop on a scheduled shop ride. Nobody was
wearing a name tag that said, "I'm with Tam Phan".

JD

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Quoted message said:

Now that's interesting... The Path and I are the same crowd; and was
amused when told that a certain somebody has seeked his way to ride
with us. Hmmm...

Where was this ride?

Greg