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Jan Drew lies again

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  1. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Subject: Re: Alternative Med People
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 12/28/2003 3:56 PM Central Standard Time
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    PM > >The only place you will find any data is on his supporter's web site,
    and

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    that is uninterpretable very short term follow-up claiming a 65% remision
    rate with brain tumours already treated by other means.


    JD> Five year follow up.

    Jan lies!! Yet again she lies.

    Look at
    http://www.burzynskipatientgroup.org/cancernews.html

    and show me where five year follow-up is mentioned. They are even actually
    specified as phase 11 studies which are very short term studies, usually of
    only a few months, designed to show if there is any anti-cancer effect at
    all. Why aren't we allowed to know how many of these patients are still
    alive even a year later?

    Burzinski sits back on his bum, gives no information on his web site,
    publishes nothing in either peer-reviewed journals or the "alternative"
    journals, and allows his supporters to quote figures giving the impression
    of a high cure rate becasue most people won't know how to interpret them.
    I know that. he knows exactly what he is doing, even if Jan doesn't.

    Peter Moran

  2. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Alternative Med People
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 12/28/2003 3:56 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id:


    <[email hidden]

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    PM > >The only place you will find any data is on his supporter's web


    site,

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    and

    Quoted message said:
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    that is uninterpretable very short term follow-up claiming a 65%


    remision

    Quoted message said:
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    rate with brain tumours already treated by other means.


    JD> Five year follow up.

    Jan lies!! Yet again she lies.

    Look at
    http://www.burzynskipatientgroup.org/cancernews.html

    and show me where five year follow-up is mentioned. They are even


    actually

    Quoted message said:

    specified as phase 11 studies which are very short term studies, usually


    of

    Quoted message said:

    only a few months, designed to show if there is any anti-cancer effect at
    all. Why aren't we allowed to know how many of these patients are still
    alive even a year later?

    Burzinski sits back on his bum, gives no information on his web site,
    publishes nothing in either peer-reviewed journals or the "alternative"
    journals, and allows his supporters to quote figures giving the impression
    of a high cure rate becasue most people won't know how to interpret them.
    I know that. he knows exactly what he is doing, even if Jan doesn't.

    Peter Moran


    Of course the myth of FDA/AMA/Gummint/WHO suppression of effective cancer
    cures works beautifully to make it unnecessary for quacks like Burzynski to
    respond to such criticism. Any attack at all on their actitivites can be
    blamed on the conspiracy.

    Few outside medicine have any idea what ethical medical and authentic
    scientific behaviour looks like. Thus the most specious of excuses for
    deceptive practices will be accepted, especially by those also driven by
    desperation.

    Peter Moran

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  3. Isn't there a question of him using the Ph.d title after his M.D.?
    Something about when his credentials were checked with his University
    back "in the old country", such a program was not available until after
    he came to the U.S.?

  4. BTW, I didn't mean to imply that he couldn't have gotten use of that
    title elsewhere in the intervening 30+ years; only what the end of the
    story actually was.

  5. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    BTW, I didn't mean to imply that he couldn't have gotten use of that
    title elsewhere in the intervening 30+ years; only what the end of the
    story actually was.

    There are those that misuse their "degrees" and those who outright lie about
    them.

    Recently, a net loon by the name of Betty Martini began being addressed as
    Dr. Betty Martini and is now claiming that she has an honorary degree.

    Even assuming that is so, and I have found indication of wherre she
    allegedly was allegedly granted this honorary dergee, calling oneself "Dr."
    is an act of hubris.

    However, I suspect that she recevied her honorary title from the same school
    that Hulda got her mail order degree.

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