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  1. ANYONE KNOW IF THE FOLLOWING IF FOR REAL OR SNAKE OIL?

    IVE LEFT LINK FOR PURCHASE OUT SO THIS WONT BE CONFUSED AS ADVERTIZING. IM LOOSING MY EYESIGHT, SO
    IM WARY OF FALLING INTO NET SCAMS...

    =============================================================

    -- William Campbell Douglass, M.D.

    Dear Daily Dose Reader,

    As you know from reading my newsletter, I devote a lot of ink to pulling the rug out from under
    conventional medicine's profit-driven, "band-aid" approach to all kinds of ailments and their
    respective "remedies"...

    And nowhere is this more apparent than when it comes to your eye health.

    The plain truth is that when it comes to your vision, the medical mainstream focuses on compensating
    for problems instead of truly healing your eyes...and instead of preventing or reversing most forms
    of visual deterioration. And why shouldn't they? That's where all the money is.

    Think about it. When a patient with Age-Related Macular Degeneration (ARMD), glaucoma, retinitis
    pigmentosa, or any number of other eye ailments walks through the door, it's much more profitable
    for doctors to simply throw up their arms in defeat. They reach for the prescription pad, surgery
    schedule, or catalog of designer glasses frames instead of researching and recommending the little-
    known, inexpensive natural options the mainstream typically shuns...

    But I'm writing today to tell you that just because you're not seeing these safe, effective, and
    affordable solutions for preventing many kinds of visual degeneration (or even reversing it once it
    has begun); and just because they're not pervasive themes in the mainstream channels, that doesn't
    mean they don't exist. In fact, such side-effect-free eye therapies do exist-safe, natural, and time-
    proven miracles that can help you:
    a.. Halt or even reverse ARMD, the leading cause of blindness in those over 60
    b.. Reduce eye pressure-a major factor in glaucoma and other ocular disease
    c.. Lessen eye fatigue for longer reading sessions (and fewer headaches)
    d.. Stop the progression of vision-blurring cataracts
    e.. Strengthen night vision for safer driving
    f.. Protect your eyes from the harmful effects of both ultra violet rays and environmental toxins
    I'm going to introduce you to some of these safe, natural secrets to better vision in just a
    minute. But right now, I want to explain to you why...

    When it comes to your vision, what they don't know can hurt you

    In my opinion, what conventional eye doctors should do before prescribing drugs, glasses or surgery
    is ask them a few basic questions about their diet and daily nutrition. Of course, this presumes
    that today's eye doctors actually know something about how deficiencies in certain nutrients can
    cause deterioration of your vision or contribute to optical disease...

    Quite frankly, most of them don't. But let's focus on the positive, shall we? The good news is that
    I've been aware of this vision/nutrition link for decades-why do you think I've been able to
    maintain such excellent, glasses-free eyesight even though I've been kicking around since before the
    Great Depression? And now I want to tell you all about it...

    Go to secure order form: agora-agora-
    inc.com/secure/FORM1.CFM?PUBCODE=655SUVS&PCODE=W655D C18&ALIAS=pricing

    The hidden cause of many vision maladies that most eye doctors turn a blind eye to...

    You see, regardless of whether most mainstream eye doctors know it or not, like so many other
    aspects of your health, diet and nutrition can have a profound effect on your vision. That's
    right: What you eat now-and what you've been eating your whole life-could be the reason for
    your vision struggles (or why you may still have relatively good eyesight).

    However, today's sugar-rich, ultra-refined foods are nearly devoid of the nutrients the human
    eye needs for optimum visual acuity and resistance to disease. That's right-unless you've got
    a time machine and are doing your grocery shopping at the markets of a century or more ago,
    you're likely not getting the vitamins, minerals and other compounds your eyes need to see
    clearly and ward off disease. Even if you've been doing your best to "eat healthy"...

    This is why I'm writing to you today: To recommend a simple, inexpensive way to give your eyes
    everything they need in the way of vision-boosting nutrition, every single day. It's called
    Ultimate Vision Support-a brand-new, once-a-day dietary supplement from Real Advantage
    Nutritionals. It's specifically formulated to give those who are suffering a steady infusion
    of the nutrients, vitamins, and minerals they need to resist (or reverse) the effects of
    ophthalmic problems...

    Or to make sure you keep your good eyesight for as long as possible!

    You may recognize some of the specially chosen ingredients in new Ultimate Vision Support-but
    others are cutting-edge substances you definitely won't find in run-of-the-mill "grocery
    store" vision supplements. More than the typical bilberry- or lutein-based formula, Ultimate
    Vision Support contains 27 proven vision-boosting substances from around the world-in the
    optimum and completely safe dosages for a real difference you can clearly see. This complete
    spectrum of time-tested nutrients are what set this revolutionary formula apart from the
    others, and what makes it worthy of both the Real Advantage name and my endorsement.

    But in real-world terms, new Ultimate Vision Support is designed to help minimize (or even
    reverse) the effects of the deteriorating vision so common in 50-, 60-, and 70-something adults-
    everyday things like helping you to...

    Go to secure order form:

  2. "US NEWS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ANYONE KNOW IF THE FOLLOWING IF FOR REAL OR SNAKE OIL?

    IVE LEFT LINK FOR PURCHASE OUT SO THIS WONT BE CONFUSED AS ADVERTIZING.


    IM

    Quoted message said:

    LOOSING MY EYESIGHT, SO IM WARY OF FALLING INTO NET SCAMS...

    =============================================================

    -- William Campbell Douglass, M.D.

    Dear Daily Dose Reader,

    As you know from reading my newsletter, I devote a lot of ink to pulling


    the

    Quoted message said:

    rug out from under conventional medicine's profit-driven, "band-aid" approach to all kinds of
    ailments and their respective "remedies"...

    Standard quackery line, 'us vs them', this should set the alarm bells ringing.

    Quoted message said:


    And nowhere is this more apparent than when it comes to your eye health.

    The plain truth is that when it comes to your vision, the medical


    mainstream

    Quoted message said:

    focuses on compensating for problems instead of truly healing your eyes...and instead of
    preventing or reversing most forms of visual deterioration. And why shouldn't they? That's where
    all the money is.

    More suspicious. There are some corrections, and some cures, depending on the ailment. Nothing much
    can be done about the age related hardening of the lense except glasses. For other problems? This is
    a huge field, with problems ranging from physical damage, genetic problems and disease caused by
    bacteria and viruses. Some of these have good cures, some have only treatments, and some you just
    have to live with.

    Quoted message said:


    Think about it. When a patient with Age-Related Macular Degeneration


    (ARMD),

    Quoted message said:

    glaucoma, retinitis pigmentosa, or any number of other eye ailments walks through the door, it's
    much more profitable for doctors to simply throw up their arms in defeat. They reach for the
    prescription pad, surgery


    schedule,

    Quoted message said:

    or catalog of designer glasses frames instead of researching and recommending the little-known,
    inexpensive natural options the mainstream typically shuns...

    Treatments are often shunned because they don't work. Use of conspiracy theory is also a sign of
    quackery. I don't even know what it is yet, but already I would bet you 10:1 odds in your favour
    that this is quackery.

    Quoted message said:


    But I'm writing today to tell you that just because you're not seeing


    these

    Quoted message said:

    safe, effective, and affordable solutions for preventing many kinds of visual degeneration (or
    even reversing it once it has begun); and just because they're not pervasive themes in the
    mainstream channels, that doesn't mean they don't exist. In fact, such side-effect-free eye


    therapies

    Quoted message said:

    do exist-safe, natural, and time-proven miracles that can help you:
    a.. Halt or even reverse ARMD, the leading cause of blindness in those over 60
    b.. Reduce eye pressure-a major factor in glaucoma and other ocular disease
    c.. Lessen eye fatigue for longer reading sessions (and fewer headaches)
    d.. Stop the progression of vision-blurring cataracts
    e.. Strengthen night vision for safer driving
    f.. Protect your eyes from the harmful effects of both ultra violet rays and environmental
    toxins I'm going to introduce you to some of these safe, natural secrets to


    better

    Quoted message said:

    vision in just a minute. But right now, I want to explain to you why...

    Damn, I though he would have mentioned what he had by now. Cure alls are another sign of quackery.
    All these problems mentioned above are have very different causes, so will have different
    treatments. Also, the Army would pay alot for anything to improve night vision among the troops, but
    I remember still being trained in the 'look 30 degrees off target' method.

    Quoted message said:

    When it comes to your vision, what they don't know can hurt you

    In my opinion, what conventional eye doctors should do before prescribing drugs, glasses or
    surgery is ask them a few basic questions about their


    diet

    Quoted message said:

    and daily nutrition. Of course, this presumes that today's eye doctors actually know something
    about how deficiencies in certain nutrients can cause deterioration of your vision or contribute
    to optical disease...

    Yes they know. Hence 'Golden Rice'.

    Quoted message said:


    Quite frankly, most of them don't.

    [censored]

    <snip the rest>

    So much [censored] so far. There is no need to go any further, it is [censored] and quackery. All the
    signs are there. Don't waste you money or time.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  3. Sounds like this originated from HSI (correct me if I'm wrong) Just a suggestion :- Why not email
    HSI and ask for some hard data to back up their claims before you buy? Anth

    "US NEWS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ANYONE KNOW IF THE FOLLOWING IF FOR REAL OR SNAKE OIL?

    IVE LEFT LINK FOR PURCHASE OUT SO THIS WONT BE CONFUSED AS ADVERTIZING.


    IM

    Quoted message said:

    LOOSING MY EYESIGHT, SO IM WARY OF FALLING INTO NET SCAMS...

    =============================================================

    -- William Campbell Douglass, M.D.

    Dear Daily Dose Reader,

    As you know from reading my newsletter, I devote a lot of ink to pulling


    the

    Quoted message said:

    rug out from under conventional medicine's profit-driven, "band-aid" approach to all kinds of
    ailments and their respective "remedies"...

    And nowhere is this more apparent than when it comes to your eye health.

    The plain truth is that when it comes to your vision, the medical


    mainstream

    Quoted message said:

    focuses on compensating for problems instead of truly healing your eyes...and instead of
    preventing or reversing most forms of visual deterioration. And why shouldn't they? That's where
    all the money is.

    Think about it. When a patient with Age-Related Macular Degeneration


    (ARMD),

    Quoted message said:

    glaucoma, retinitis pigmentosa, or any number of other eye ailments walks through the door, it's
    much more profitable for doctors to simply throw up their arms in defeat. They reach for the
    prescription pad, surgery


    schedule,

    Quoted message said:

    or catalog of designer glasses frames instead of researching and recommending the little-known,
    inexpensive natural options the mainstream typically shuns...

    But I'm writing today to tell you that just because you're not seeing


    these

    Quoted message said:

    safe, effective, and affordable solutions for preventing many kinds of visual degeneration (or
    even reversing it once it has begun); and just because they're not pervasive themes in the
    mainstream channels, that doesn't mean they don't exist. In fact, such side-effect-free eye


    therapies

    Quoted message said:

    do exist-safe, natural, and time-proven miracles that can help you:
    a.. Halt or even reverse ARMD, the leading cause of blindness in those over 60
    b.. Reduce eye pressure-a major factor in glaucoma and other ocular disease
    c.. Lessen eye fatigue for longer reading sessions (and fewer headaches)
    d.. Stop the progression of vision-blurring cataracts
    e.. Strengthen night vision for safer driving
    f.. Protect your eyes from the harmful effects of both ultra violet rays and environmental
    toxins I'm going to introduce you to some of these safe, natural secrets to


    better

    Quoted message said:

    vision in just a minute. But right now, I want to explain to you why...

    When it comes to your vision, what they don't know can hurt you

    In my opinion, what conventional eye doctors should do before prescribing drugs, glasses or
    surgery is ask them a few basic questions about their


    diet

    Quoted message said:

    and daily nutrition. Of course, this presumes that today's eye doctors actually know something
    about how deficiencies in certain nutrients can cause deterioration of your vision or contribute
    to optical disease...

    Quite frankly, most of them don't. But let's focus on the positive, shall we? The good news is
    that I've been aware of this vision/nutrition link


    for

    Quoted message said:

    decades-why do you think I've been able to maintain such excellent, glasses-free eyesight even
    though I've been kicking around since before


    the

    Quoted message said:

    Great Depression? And now I want to tell you all about it...

    Go to secure order form:


    agora-inc.comFORM1.CFM

    Quoted message said:

    C18&ALIAS=pricing

    The hidden cause of many vision maladies that most eye doctors turn a blind eye to...

    You see, regardless of whether most mainstream eye doctors know it


    or

    Quoted message said:

    not, like so many other aspects of your health, diet and nutrition can


    have

    Quoted message said:

    a profound effect on your vision. That's right: What you eat now-and what you've been eating your
    whole life-could be the reason for your vision struggles (or why you may still have relatively
    good eyesight).

    However, today's sugar-rich, ultra-refined foods are nearly devoid


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the nutrients the human eye needs for optimum visual acuity and resistance to disease. That's right-
    unless you've got a time machine and are doing


    your

    Quoted message said:

    grocery shopping at the markets of a century or more ago, you're likely


    not

    Quoted message said:

    getting the vitamins, minerals and other compounds your eyes need to see clearly and ward off
    disease. Even if you've been doing your best to "eat healthy"...

    This is why I'm writing to you today: To recommend a simple, inexpensive way to give your
    eyes everything they need in the way of vision-boosting nutrition, every single day. It's
    called Ultimate Vision Support-a brand-new, once-a-day dietary supplement from Real
    Advantage Nutritionals. It's specifically formulated to give those who are suffering


    a

    Quoted message said:

    steady infusion of the nutrients, vitamins, and minerals they need to


    resist

    Quoted message said:

    (or reverse) the effects of ophthalmic problems...

    Or to make sure you keep your good eyesight for as long as possible!

    You may recognize some of the specially chosen ingredients in new Ultimate Vision Support-
    but others are cutting-edge substances you definitely won't find in run-of-the-mill "grocery
    store" vision


    supplements.

    Quoted message said:

    More than the typical bilberry- or lutein-based formula, Ultimate Vision Support contains 27
    proven vision-boosting substances from around the world-in the optimum and completely safe dosages
    for a real difference you can clearly see. This complete spectrum of time-tested nutrients are
    what set this revolutionary formula apart from the others, and what makes it worthy of both the
    Real Advantage name and my endorsement.

    But in real-world terms, new Ultimate Vision Support is designed to help minimize (or even
    reverse) the effects of the deteriorating vision so common in 50-, 60-, and 70-something adults-
    everyday things like helping


    you

    Quoted message said:

    to...

    Go to secure order form:

  4. Anth said:

    Sounds like this originated from HSI (correct me if I'm wrong) Just a suggestion :- Why not email
    HSI and ask for some hard data to back up their claims before you buy? Anth

    This one fails the "duck test" UTTERLY! The denigration of conventional medicine is a strong clue --
    THEN, when one asks for further information they offer nothing and a screen pops up asking for your
    telephone number so that they can call you at home and peddle their snake-oil.

    Caveat Emptor

    ward

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