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Inner tube versus Tyre

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  1. I keep reading threads about people using inner tubes from a 29" uni on
    a coker to make the uni lighter. Is it practical to do this for other
    sizes of wheel? Could I put a 24" tube onto my 26" wheel and what
    benefits would I get?

    Can you do this with most sizes of tyre/inner tube or is it a bad idea
    on tyres that are oversized such as my 26x3" tyre?

    Would this leave me more susceptible to punctures?

    Cheers for any advice.

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  2. Interestingly, this very subject was raised by the man in my local bike
    shop today.

    Most inner tubes are very stretchy. It is generally possible to use one
    that is slightly too small. A 700c wheel is designed for a 28 or 29
    inch tyre and tube. This tube will fit a Coker which has a 36 inch
    tyre. Thus, we know that you can "stretch" a tube by at least 24% (36
    is 24% bigger than 29).

    A 24 is 20% bigger than a 20.
    A 26 is 8% bigger than a 24.
    A 28 is 7% bigger than a 26.

    Thus "in theory" you should generally "get away with" a tube a size too
    small, whatever wheel you have.

    In practice, it may not be this easy, and I guess that you might
    struggle to stretch a 20 tube onto a 24. I've never tried, though.

    Is it worth it? You're looking at a small saving in weight - a few
    grammes. However, look where that weight is situated: at the furthest
    point from the hub, which means that it exerts considerable leverage.
    An ounce on the tyre will take more accelerating (and braking) than an
    ounce of chocolate in your Camelbak!

    (Incidentally, if you think you see an ounce of chocolate on your tyre,
    be suspicious - you may have ridden over a dog's egg.)

    If I've got this right, at any given "rpm", the extra weight will make
    more difference on a bigger wheel. At any given speed, I think the size
    of the wheel is less relevant. For most of us, who are not speed
    specialists, that means that the weight saving will be more significant
    on a Coker or 29 than on a 20 or 24.

    As it happens, I bought a lighter tyre for my 28 today. I'll see if it
    makes any difference. Report follows in a few days.

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  3. Remember that in the case of cokers, the stock tube is a thick, heavy
    tube. In the case of 24 x 3 or 26 x 3 tires, they are generally fitted
    with thick heavy downhill tubes, because they are downhill bike tires.
    So in both of those cases a smaller tube allows the use of a thinner
    tube, and that is where the real weight savings is, not in the fact that
    is slightly smaller in size.
    So, replacing a standard weight tube with another standard weight tube
    of a smaller size would give pretty insignificant weight savings.

    As in another thread, using a thinner tube that is made for that size
    tire is a safer option when available. A Specialized 26 x 3 would be
    good in your application, and gives a significant weight savings IF you
    are currently running a downhill tube.

    Scott

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  4. But with a thinner tube, espwecially in muni and trials, means easier
    pinch flats.

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