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  1. "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we assume
    that you are, in fact, a virgin?

    That would explain a lot.

    The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is known
    far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  2. "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
    other
    human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of where
    we
    are coming from.

    There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must be
    difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find both
    natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would attempt
    to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears confer
    some
    sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be nothing
    more
    than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).

    You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
    except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are. You should try to
    rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
    never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the purpose


    of

    Quoted message said:

    procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other


    purpose

    Quoted message said:

    than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take you!

    Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements worthless.
    It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your
    fears
    represent some sort of higher plane of existance.

    You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of all
    your difficulties.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you answer the question?

    I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
    What else do you have to know beyond that!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  3. "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we


    assume

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that you are, in fact, a virgin?

    That would explain a lot.

    The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is


    known

    Quoted message said:

    far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    Evasion duly noted.

    Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of any
    kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.

    Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
    relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these matters.

    GG

  4. "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
    other
    human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of where
    we
    are coming from.

    There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must be
    difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find


    both

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would


    attempt

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears confer
    some
    sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be nothing
    more
    than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).

    You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
    except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are.

    You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your pronouncements
    in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of your
    own fears of intimacy and sexuality.

    You should seek the help of a qualified mental health professional...living
    such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

    Quoted message said:

    You should try to
    rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
    never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.

    I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the


    purpose

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other


    purpose

    Quoted message said:

    than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take


    you!

    Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements worthless.
    It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your
    fears
    represent some sort of higher plane of existance.

    You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of all
    your difficulties.

    Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.

    Quoted message said:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you answer the question?

    I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
    What else do you have to know beyond that!

    For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
    believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet bloward
    "saints"😉.

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  5. "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed]

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is


    known

    Quoted message said:

    far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!


    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Evasion duly noted.

    Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of
    any
    kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.

    Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
    relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these
    matters.

    "The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
    known
    far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!" - Ed Dolan

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  6. "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed]

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your pronouncements
    in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of
    your
    own fears of intimacy and sexuality.

    You should seek the help of a qualified mental health
    professional...living
    such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

    "The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
    known
    far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!" - Ed Dolan

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You should try to
    rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
    never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.

    I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.

    Forget original sin. You are sinning every day by your conduct and there is
    nothing to be done about it because you are too stupid to know sin when you
    see it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the


    purpose

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of
    > procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
    purpose
    > than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take


    you!

    Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.

    "You are sinning every day by your conduct and there is nothing to be done
    about it because you are too stupid to know sin when you see it." - Ed Dolan

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements
    worthless.
    It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your
    fears
    represent some sort of higher plane of existance.

    You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of all
    your difficulties.

    Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.

    You need to stop sinning and in general behaving like a besotted soul.
    Model yourself after me and you will be on the right path for once in your
    miserable life. Who knows, you might even be able to become a minor saint,
    but never a Great Saint like Me. Too much sin has gone under your bridge.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you answer the question?

    I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
    What else do you have to know beyond that!

    For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
    believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet
    bloward
    "saints"😉.

    "I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
    What else do you have to know beyond that!" - Ed Dolan

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  7. On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:19:44 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > Not a problem for me.
    > >
    > > First, let me assure you that I'm not gay.
    > >
    > > I just don't like women anymore. Having a wife or a girlfriend
    > > involves 'WAY too many compromises, as far as I am concerned. They


    are

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    Quoted message said:

    > > just a pain in the ass, always complaining about something or other,
    > > and always quick to criticize you but think their own [censored] doesn't
    > > stink. The small amount of time that you spend having sex with them
    > > isn't worth it.
    > >
    > > Plus, let's face it, most women are as dumb as a brick. They never
    > > learned anything in school; they are anti-intellectual as a defense
    > > mechanism, and they are resentful of men who did well in school, went
    > > to college and graduate school, and who are successful.
    > >
    > > All women want is a man who is going to follow around behind them,
    > > cleaning up their messes like the guy in the circus parade who


    follows

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > along behind the elephants. Oh, how could I have almost forgotten,
    > > they want the man to give them a lot of money. Of course they don't
    > > appreciate it because they are resentful that the man is successful


    and

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    Quoted message said:

    > > has the money to give them. And even if you do give them all the


    money

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > they want, they probably won't want to have sex with you anyway.
    > >
    > > To make matters worse, even though they are dumb and


    overly-emotional,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > they want to call all the shots in the relationship! And they want


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > buy, buy, buy. "I feel inadequate. I'd better buy something."
    > >
    > > And if you marry one, she'll use you as a sperm donor until it


    becomes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > too much of a hassle to deal with you, and then she'll kick your ass
    > > out so you lose your family. But keep sending those support checks!
    > >
    > > Women are really evil and screwed up.
    > >
    > > In short, who needs women? I just avoid them like the plague, and


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > never been happier.
    >
    > Folson, you are a genius almost on my level. I have not had your
    experience
    > of women, but I KNOW everything you say about them is true. So very


    many

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > poor men slobs seem not to have a clue about women. It just sickens me
    that
    > men can be such fools and all-around dumbbells. Well, it all has to do
    with
    > the sex angle and nothing else. Men want sex and women want children.
    > From
    > that springs all the misunderstandings between the sexes. Unless men


    also

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > want children, they are better off staying as far away from the female
    > sex
    > as they can get.

    ED, please don't project your fears of intimacy and sexuality upon the
    rest
    of the male gender. You're a well-documented misanthrope and


    misogynist,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with well-documented fears of intimacy (of any kind).

    Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any other
    human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of where we
    are coming from.

    There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must be
    difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find both
    natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would attempt
    to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears confer some
    sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be nothing more
    than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).

    "Weirdo" is just the mountain bikers' way of trying to discredit
    honest people, without really saying anything. They are the masters of
    saying nothing. They HAVE to be, or the truth about their selfish,
    destructive, disgusting sport will leak out.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    For most normal men, physical and social intimacy with women is part of
    the
    definition of a life well lived. Of course, you're free to live your
    lonely
    life as you see fit. But insulting all women just because you fear


    them,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and insulting most men who would prefer their company, just makes you


    look

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like even more of a weirdo and misfit.

    The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the purpose


    of

    Quoted message said:

    procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other


    purpose

    Quoted message said:

    than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take you!

    Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements worthless.
    It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your fears
    represent some sort of higher plane of existance.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    BTW - When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation excluded)?
    I'm
    guessing it's been a very long time. Perhaps you've simply forgotten,


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    never learned, what a pleasant experience it can be.

    Poor GaryG is a lost soul and in my Saintly eyes damned by his own


    thoughts

    Quoted message said:

    and actions. But he is essentially a man of nature who is lost in the


    grips

    Quoted message said:

    of that nature and not much better than the beasts of the field. His lot


    is

    Quoted message said:

    the common lot of most of mankind. He does not know what to make of a
    superior type such as myself who has risen above the dictates of our


    nature.

    Quoted message said:

    He is also clearly incapable of any of the higher religions unless they


    are

    Quoted message said:

    watered down for the likes of him.

    Why don't you answer the question?

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  8. On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:46:24 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    > Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
    > other
    > human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of where
    > we
    > are coming from.

    There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must be
    difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find


    both

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would


    attempt

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears confer
    some
    sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be nothing
    more
    than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).

    You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
    except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are.

    You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your pronouncements
    in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of your
    own fears of intimacy and sexuality.

    You should seek the help of a qualified mental health professional...living
    such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

    Smells like fascism: anyone who doesn't think like a mountain biker
    needs to be be brainwashed, right? ESPECIALLY if they happen to expose
    inconvenient truths about your favorite pastime.... The only problem
    is that any therapist worth his/her salt would AGREE with us! I know,
    because my Ph.D. is in Psychology. You can keep your pop psychology.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You should try to
    rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
    never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.

    I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    > The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the


    purpose

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of
    > procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
    purpose
    > than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take


    you!

    Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements worthless.
    It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your
    fears
    represent some sort of higher plane of existance.

    You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of all
    your difficulties.

    Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.

    Quoted message said:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you answer the question?

    I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
    What else do you have to know beyond that!

    For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
    believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet bloward
    "saints"😉.

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  9. On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we


    assume

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that you are, in fact, a virgin?

    That would explain a lot.

    The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is


    known

    Quoted message said:

    far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    Evasion duly noted.

    Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of any
    kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.

    Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
    relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these matters.

    Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
    Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
    treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
    anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
    disgusting sport.

    Quoted message said:

    GG


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  10. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]
    > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we


    assume

    Quoted message said:

    > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
    >
    > That would explain a lot.

    The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is


    known

    Quoted message said:

    far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    Evasion duly noted.

    Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of


    any

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.

    Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
    relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these


    matters.

    Quoted message said:


    Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
    Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
    treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
    anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
    disgusting sport.

    Hey, Mikey....looks like it's troll wars in here today.

    For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
    disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an equal
    opportunity troll baiter):

    When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
    prostitutes excluded)?

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    GG


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure [censored]"😉. Want to help me recover?

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  11. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:46:24 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    [...]
    >> Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
    >> other
    >> human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of


    where

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> we
    >> are coming from.
    >
    > There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find


    both

    Quoted message said:

    > natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would


    attempt

    Quoted message said:

    > to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears


    confer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    > some
    > sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be


    nothing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > more
    > than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).

    You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
    except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are.

    You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your


    pronouncements

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    own fears of intimacy and sexuality.

    You should seek the help of a qualified mental health


    professional...living

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

    Smells like fascism: anyone who doesn't think like a mountain biker
    needs to be be brainwashed, right? ESPECIALLY if they happen to expose
    inconvenient truths about your favorite pastime.... The only problem
    is that any therapist worth his/her salt would AGREE with us! I know,
    because my Ph.D. is in Psychology. You can keep your pop psychology.

    How very interesting, Mikey. You've chosen to chime in only after I
    mentioned that poor lonely ED may be able to help himself by seeking out a
    mental health professional. Did they ever discuss "projection" when you were
    obtaining your degree?

    Have your parents and/or friends (assuming you have any) ever suggested that
    you seek mental health counseling too? Have you ever had counseling? You
    seem to be perpetually angry, and surely that can't be a pleasant way to
    live.

    FWIW, some of the craziest people I've ever met have had advanced degrees in
    Psychology (the field seems to attract quite a few people who are motivated
    by their own "issues"😉.

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You should try to
    rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
    never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.

    I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.

    Quoted message said:


    >> The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the


    purpose

    Quoted message said:

    > of
    >> procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
    > purpose
    >> than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take


    you!

    Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.

    Quoted message said:

    >
    > Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements


    worthless.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    > fears
    > represent some sort of higher plane of existance.

    You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    your difficulties.

    Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.

    Quoted message said:

    [...]

    > Why don't you answer the question?

    I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable


    life.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What else do you have to know beyond that!

    For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
    believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet


    bloward

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "saints"😉.

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  12. "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed]

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
    Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
    treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
    anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
    disgusting sport.

    Hey, Mikey....looks like it's troll wars in here today.

    For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
    disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an
    equal
    opportunity troll baiter):

    When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
    prostitutes excluded)?

    GaryG is the only troll present on these newsgroups. If and when I make some
    comments on women, it is incumbent on him to attack those views if he
    disagrees with them, but instead he attacks me personally, accusing me of
    all kinds of who knows what.

    But Gary is making a far more serious mistake in that he has riled Saint
    Edward the Great. This is not something to be undertaken lightly as Saint
    Edward the Great is a most fearsome Saint and He will soon have GaryG
    squirming on the floor like the human scum that he is.

    The bottom line for me is that GaryG like all scoundrels does not use his
    real name on these forums. Therefore, he is suspect and not to be taken
    seriously. He pretends to be a normal person when all he is is a normal
    scoundrel!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  13. "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed - I will soon trim all newsgroups where I am involved
    except ARBR due to my lack of interest in these other newsgroups]

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You should seek the help of a qualified mental health


    professional...living

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

    Smells like fascism: anyone who doesn't think like a mountain biker
    needs to be be brainwashed, right? ESPECIALLY if they happen to expose
    inconvenient truths about your favorite pastime.... The only problem
    is that any therapist worth his/her salt would AGREE with us! I know,
    because my Ph.D. is in Psychology. You can keep your pop psychology.

    How very interesting, Mikey. You've chosen to chime in only after I
    mentioned that poor lonely ED may be able to help himself by seeking out a
    mental health professional. Did they ever discuss "projection" when you
    were
    obtaining your degree?

    Poor GaryG is unable to deal with anyone who does not hold to the
    conventional views about men and society. That is because he is a
    conventional man with all the hang-ups of a conventional man. His idea of an
    attack is to accuse someone with whom he disagrees of sexual perversion.
    This is typical redneck behavior. Does not that just about say it all?

    Quoted message said:

    Have your parents and/or friends (assuming you have any) ever suggested
    that
    you seek mental health counseling too? Have you ever had counseling? You
    seem to be perpetually angry, and surely that can't be a pleasant way to
    live.

    We only pretend to be angry for the benefit and amusement of the general
    reader. If you think we would actually waste any anger on the likes of you,
    then you are crazier than I thought.

    Quoted message said:

    FWIW, some of the craziest people I've ever met have had advanced degrees
    in
    Psychology (the field seems to attract quite a few people who are
    motivated
    by their own "issues"😉.

    It is not easy to get a Ph.D degree in any subject whatsoever. I got as far
    as a Masters (not in psychology) and then I said to hell with it!
    [...]

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  14. On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:45:19 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:46:24 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email hidden]...
    > [...]
    > >> Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
    > >> other
    > >> human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of


    where

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> we
    > >> are coming from.
    > >
    > > There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find
    both
    > > natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would
    attempt
    > > to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears


    confer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > some
    > > sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be


    nothing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > more
    > > than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).
    >
    > You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
    > except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are.

    You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your


    pronouncements

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    own fears of intimacy and sexuality.

    You should seek the help of a qualified mental health


    professional...living

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

    Smells like fascism: anyone who doesn't think like a mountain biker
    needs to be be brainwashed, right? ESPECIALLY if they happen to expose
    inconvenient truths about your favorite pastime.... The only problem
    is that any therapist worth his/her salt would AGREE with us! I know,
    because my Ph.D. is in Psychology. You can keep your pop psychology.

    How very interesting, Mikey. You've chosen to chime in only after I
    mentioned that poor lonely ED may be able to help himself by seeking out a
    mental health professional. Did they ever discuss "projection" when you were
    obtaining your degree?

    Have your parents and/or friends (assuming you have any) ever suggested that
    you seek mental health counseling too? Have you ever had counseling? You
    seem to be perpetually angry,

    Anger is the normal response to seeing our beloved Earth harmed.
    Anyone who is NOT angry about that is not normal.

    and surely that can't be a pleasant way to

    Quoted message said:

    live.

    FWIW, some of the craziest people I've ever met have had advanced degrees in
    Psychology (the field seems to attract quite a few people who are motivated
    by their own "issues"😉.

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    >You should try to
    > rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
    > never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.

    I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.

    >
    > >> The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the
    purpose
    > > of
    > >> procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
    > > purpose
    > >> than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take
    you!

    Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.

    > >
    > > Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements


    worthless.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > fears
    > > represent some sort of higher plane of existance.
    >
    > You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > your difficulties.

    Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.

    > [...]
    >
    > > Why don't you answer the question?
    >
    > I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable


    life.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > What else do you have to know beyond that!

    For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
    believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet


    bloward

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "saints"😉.

    GG

    > Regards,
    >
    > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    > aka
    > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
    >


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  15. On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:37:10 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > [...]
    > > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we
    assume
    > > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
    > >
    > > That would explain a lot.
    >
    > The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
    known
    > far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    > aka
    > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
    >

    Evasion duly noted.

    Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of


    any

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.

    Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
    relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these


    matters.

    Quoted message said:


    Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
    Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
    treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
    anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
    disgusting sport.

    Hey, Mikey....looks like it's troll wars in here today.

    For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
    disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an equal
    opportunity troll baiter):

    When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
    prostitutes excluded)?

    Sorry, you need to stick to relevant subjects. Or move to alt.[censored],
    where you belong.

    Quoted message said:

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    GG


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure [censored]"😉. Want to help me recover?

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  16. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:45:19 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Anger is the normal response to seeing our beloved Earth harmed.
    Anyone who is NOT angry about that is not normal.


    However, there is no ruling that says anyone must express their anger the
    same way you do. Since many do it from other platforms and get results, it
    is obvious that other opinions, actions and voices exist quite normally.

  17. Ed,

    Do print your post below in its entirety and present it to your
    therapist on yout next visit.

    Jim McNamara

    Edward Dolan said:

    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    GaryG wrote:
    > "cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >
    >>[email hidden] wrote:
    >>
    >>>Ed, the best thing men like us can do is to try to talk to young guys
    >>>every chance we get and tell them how miserable they will be if they
    >>>get involved with women, so they won't have to endure the suffering
    >>>that so many men have had to do because they hooked up with a woman.
    >>>
    >>>The only thing a woman wants to do is rob a man of his individuality,
    >>>creativity and spontaneity and turn them into a drone who does nothing
    >>>but slave for their benefit.
    >>>
    >>>And if the guy shows some cojones and stands up to her, she will kick
    >>>him out pronto. He will lose his house and family. It is a complete
    >>>"no-win" situation.
    >>>
    >>>When I express these truths to married men, or to men who live with a
    >>>woman, they get very defensive and start telling me how "wonderful'
    >>>their relationship is. I find this very amusing. What I like to do
    >>>is
    >>>invite myself over to their house in order to view their relationship.
    >>>They basically fall into two groups: (1) the guy's wife is really fat
    >>>and ugly and usually treats him nice because she knows she can't get
    >>>another man (but who wants a fat, ugly wife or girlfriend? No
    >>>thanks!); or (2) the guy is just SO thankful that he's getting a
    >>>little
    >>>[censored] (usually after years of going without) that he will rationalize
    >>>and justify any bad treatment his wife or girlfriend hands out, and
    >>>convince himself that he's found "true love".
    >>>
    >>
    >>You have some unhealthy
    >>friends. Not surprising.
    >
    >
    > Actually, he has no friends in the real world. If he's known where he


    lives

    Quoted message said:

    > at all, it's as the town weirdo, or the "creepy" guy.
    >

    or as a NAMBLA member.

    I kind of doubt it...in previous threads he's expressed disgust with any
    form of human contact, especially sexual contact.

    I suspect he's completely asexual, and may in fact be a virgin. That's OK,
    of course, except that he keeps insisting he's superior because of it, and
    characterizing all women as stupid and inferior to his "greatness".

    Time now for Saint Edward the Great to weigh in and dispose of these gnats
    that flit about Him like the pests that they are.

    Ed Dolan is the Greatest Saint ever to reside in this land of woe known as
    America. The country is going to Hell because of the examples CC and Gary G
    set before you here on these newsgroups. They are only into their own
    [censored] which they confuse with sex. We Great Saints know that sex is only
    for the purpose of procreation and not for the purpose of fun and games.
    Also, Saint Edward the Great would like to advise all and sundry that the
    anus is an exit, not an entrance. This will come as a revelation to such as
    CC and GaryG of course, but what can you expect when they have lost the
    purpose of sex.

    My Saintliness is beyond question. But it is not a normal Saintliness, nay,
    it is a Great Saintliness. That is because I was born without original sin,
    unlike the rest of you sinners and slobs. Not only that, but I have been
    assured by my inner voices that I will ascend into Heaven without having to
    go through the bother of dying. There I will reside at the right hand of God
    Almighty. CC and GaryG will reside in Purgatory at best, although I will
    recommend to God that he assign them to the lower depths of Hell for
    pestering such a Great Saint as Myself.

    Yea, you cross a Great Saint like Saint Edward the Great at the peril of
    your eternal soul. I am an unforgiving Saint and so you have lost your souls
    because you felt compelled to express the lasciviousness that is forever on
    your infinitesimally small brains. Too bad ... you can consort with the
    Devil in Hell. He will be delighted to take on any sexual proclivities you
    may care to express to Him. My only reservation is that I think you may
    actually enjoy Hell, but of course not like how I shall enjoy Heaven. We
    ethereal types simply cannot abide [censored] and [censored] like CC and
    GaryG - but the Devil can!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  18. Mike,

    Your recent posts are thinly disgiuised pitiful attempts to deflect the
    heat from your buddy Ed Dolan. This topic has nothing to do with
    mountain bicking, so can it clown.

    Jim McNamara

    Mike Vandeman said:

    On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]
    > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we


    assume

    Quoted message said:

    > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
    >
    > That would explain a lot.

    The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is


    known

    Quoted message said:

    far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    Evasion duly noted.

    Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of any
    kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.

    Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
    relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these matters.

    Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
    Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
    treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
    anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
    disgusting sport.

    Quoted message said:

    GG


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  19. Mike Vandeman said:

    On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:37:10 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >> "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >> [...]
    >> > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we
    >assume
    >> > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
    >> >
    >> > That would explain a lot.
    >>
    >> The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
    >known
    >> far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >>
    >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    >> aka
    >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
    >>
    >
    >Evasion duly noted.
    >
    >Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of


    any

    Quoted message said:

    >kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.
    >
    >Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
    >relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these


    matters.

    Quoted message said:


    Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
    Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
    treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
    anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
    disgusting sport.

    Hey, Mikey....looks like it's troll wars in here today.

    For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
    disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an equal
    opportunity troll baiter):

    When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
    prostitutes excluded)?

    Sorry, you need to stick to relevant subjects. Or move to alt.[censored],
    where you belong.

    You will note that ther frist post int this thread was made by you sick
    buddy Ed ... dunderhead. Can't either of you two fight your own
    battles???

    Jim McNamara

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    >GG
    >
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure [censored]"😉. Want to help me recover?

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  20. "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed]

    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
    disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an
    equal
    opportunity troll baiter):

    When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
    prostitutes excluded)?

    Mike Vandeman said:
    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, you need to stick to relevant subjects. Or move to alt.[censored],
    where you belong.

    You will note that ther frist post int this thread was made by you sick
    buddy Ed ... dunderhead. Can't either of you two fight your own
    battles???

    Jim McNamara

    Jim will always resort to sexual innuendo when he is at a loss for thought.
    It is ever the way of the scoundrel because it is so easy to do - and will
    elicit the usual sniggers from the peanut gallery. It amazes me that someone
    with a college education (and a Catholic one at that!) continually resorts
    to the lowest common denominator.

    Jim should try to elevate his thinking into the stratosphere where Ed Dolan
    the Great resides. My head has been in the clouds all of my life. Matters of
    the groin I leave to my inferiors like Jim who is apparently some kind of
    expert on such things.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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