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  1. Thanks for all the advice about rebuilding my back wheel. I
    gave up after ages (and pulling my back due to no
    exercise), and bought a new one. I am now the proud owner
    of a practice wheel.

    At least I will be back on my 10 mile each way commute from
    tomorrow (3 weeks late because I thought my skills were
    better than they are).

    Did discover that Evans in Wandsworth are [censored], and the old
    shop up the road could have fixed it by the weekend. By then
    I have managed to bend every spoke, making and remaking the
    wheel. I didn't trust it any more. One nipple had half a
    thread showing.

    It's a difficult skill, truing. Not so much the left/right
    play, but the up/down play. Overtensioning somewhere, I
    guess. Can I practice truing a wheel without it on a bike,
    without a tyre and innertube etc??

    Thanks

    Nick

  2. On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:23:26 GMT, "elyob" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for all the advice about rebuilding my back wheel. I
    gave up after ages (and pulling my back due to no
    exercise), and bought a new one. I am now the proud owner
    of a practice wheel.

    At least I will be back on my 10 mile each way commute from
    tomorrow (3 weeks late because I thought my skills were
    better than they are).

    Did discover that Evans in Wandsworth are [censored], and the old
    shop up the road could have fixed it by the weekend. By
    then I have managed to bend every spoke, making and
    remaking the wheel. I didn't trust it any more. One nipple
    had half a thread showing.

    Ah, rememininces of childhood....those long summer days
    borrowing dads spoke wrench and pouring loads of 3 in 1 oil
    into the lubrication holes of the wheel hubs...

    Quoted message said:

    It's a difficult skill, truing. Not so much the left/right
    play, but the up/down play. Overtensioning somewhere, I
    guess. Can I practice truing a wheel without it on a bike,
    without a tyre and innertube etc??

    It's one of those classic subjects that looks and is
    difficult from the 'outsdide', but in fact when you have
    the basics and concepts grasped it's so much easier. It's
    so easy to get lost without really knowing what you're
    doing. I did a one day course in Cambridge a couple of
    years ago [run by Michael Green, who sometimes posts
    here], which proved to be immensely helpful. Truthfully, I
    don't really understand the science behind it all [haven't
    read Mr Brant's epic], but do I know how to build a pretty
    good wheel [if you can follow that kind of logic!], thanks
    to that course [I still refer to the notes that we took
    away with us]. And then practice comes into play - 10 odd
    wheels later.... I found it very difficult to learn from a
    book/web-site......everything just fell into place with a
    little tuition.

    The condition of your rim might be a factor here too.

    But like you say....you have a practice wheel now....get
    fiddling some more!

    garryb

  3. "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for all the advice about rebuilding my back wheel.
    I gave up after ages (and pulling my back due to no
    exercise), and bought a new one. I am now the proud owner
    of a practice wheel.

    At least I will be back on my 10 mile each way commute
    from tomorrow (3 weeks late because I thought my skills
    were better than they are).

    Did discover that Evans in Wandsworth are [censored], and the
    old shop up the


    road

    Quoted message said:

    could have fixed it by the weekend. By then I have managed
    to bend every spoke, making and remaking the wheel. I
    didn't trust it any more. One


    nipple

    Quoted message said:

    had half a thread showing.

    It's a difficult skill, truing. Not so much the left/right
    play, but the up/down play. Overtensioning somewhere, I
    guess. Can I practice truing a wheel without it on a bike,
    without a tyre and innertube etc??

    I'd do it on a frame, but otherwise yes.

    Given an existing slightly buckled wheel, I wouldn't do
    anything about the up/down wobbles. Instead do the
    left/right ones, making sure to make the left and right
    changes the same so the up/down doesn't change. (eg a little
    pull to the right - 1/4 turn loosen on right, 1/2 tighten
    left, 1/4 loosen on right on the three spokes.)

    If it's all loose, I'd take a turn tighter on all the
    spokes, then maybe another. In between fix left/right
    roughly.

    cheers, clive

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