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Hydroplaining on tram tracks?

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  1. I've seen a few posts recently about slicks, grooves, and hydroplaining. I understand that bike
    wheels are very different to car wheels, and do not hydroplane on wet roads, but when you slide on
    wet tram tracks, what is that, if its not hydroplaining? And if it is hydroplaining then would tread
    make even the smallest amount of difference? Ollie

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    I've seen a few posts recently about slicks, grooves, and hydroplaining. I understand that bike
    wheels are very different to car wheels, and do not hydroplane on wet roads, but when you slide on
    wet tram tracks, what is that, if its not hydroplaining? And if it is hydroplaining then would
    tread make even the smallest amount


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    difference?

    Well if hydroplaning is flat contact patch car tyres skating "on" water(?) then bike tyre on tram
    tracks just plain 'ol lose traction. There's no (or very little?) water between the tyre and the
    tram track, you just slide along the track. Hydroplaning would mean hitting a patch of water and
    trapping that water between tyre and road surface, not skidding on the tram tracks. Slight technical
    difference I guess...? 🙂

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    hippy

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    I've seen a few posts recently about slicks, grooves, and hydroplaining. I understand that bike
    wheels are very different to car wheels, and do not hydroplane on wet roads,

    Correct.

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    but when you slide on wet tram tracks, what is that, if its not


    hydroplaining?

    Slipping on a low friction surface. Seen the kids sliding down the slide? Now try dragging them
    along the bitumen. Did they like it? Which one has more friction? That's how your tyres grip the
    tar. Rubber deforms around all the small surface irregularities and more rubber contact equals more
    grip. Tread patterns reduce the contact area

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    And if it is hydroplaining then would tread make even the smallest amount


    of

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    difference?

    Not unless your tread is different to mine. The edges of a tread will only grip better than a slick
    if they can hook onto some small surface irregularities (eg. cutting into a dirt surface), but steel
    tram tracks don't have these.

    Cheers Peter

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