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How to replace my rear wheel?

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  1. My new Shimano wheel arrived today, double rim, nice spokes. The
    instructions assume that I know what I'm doing but I don't. I do have
    a decent tool kit including a chain whip and hopefully a workable Lock
    Ring tool, but not the specified TL-LR15 lockring tool.

    The wheel is for 8-10 speeds, mine is 7 but I got a spacer, hopefully
    the correct one.

    So I need to move my 7 speed cassette onto the freewheel body (the
    black plastic thing sticking out of the axle). First question. Does
    the freewheel body fit my cassette or do I have to remove the FB that
    came with the wheel and install the one from my existing wheel? The
    instruction seem to imply that I'm going to use a CN-5600 cassette,
    but I'm not.

    Most of the instructions are in a section titled "Installation of the
    HG sprockets". I guess mine will be similar. There are two diagrams,
    one for 11T-23T, and the other for both 12T-25T and 12T-27T. Different
    gear ratios I guess, but both diagrams show a spacer going on the
    freewheel body first. I'm confused because I thought a spacer is only
    needed for a 7 speed cassette. Maybe these are different size spacers?
    Maybe I use the one I got in addition to whatever my cassette already
    has on the current wheel? Or, will my existing cassette already have
    the correct sized spacers and the one I got is unneeded? That seems
    more likely.

    Thanks for any help. I'm looking forward to learning more about bike
    maintenance. There's no better way to learn than having to do it.

  2. dgk said:

    So I need to move my 7 speed cassette onto the freewheel body (the
    black plastic thing sticking out of the axle).

    I can't help with your main question (and am in fact very interested in
    the answers you might get) but am wondering about the word "plastic" in
    the sentence above. Are you sure it's plastic? Those black fluted
    things your cassette normally slides onto are usually metal - anodized
    aluminum or something, I think.

  3. Quoted message said:

    My new Shimano wheel arrived today, double rim, nice spokes. The
    instructions assume that I know what I'm doing but I don't. I do have
    a decent tool kit including a chain whip and hopefully a workable Lock
    Ring tool, but not the specified TL-LR15 lockring tool.

    What type of lockring tool is it? Chances are it will work fine, as there
    aren't a whole lot of options (Campy or Shimano). And it won't take long to
    figure out if it fits... just remove the quick release and see if it slides
    in. By the way, what's a "double" rim?

    Quoted message said:

    The wheel is for 8-10 speeds, mine is 7 but I got a spacer, hopefully
    the correct one.

    Current wheels will take a 7-speed cassette, providing you have the right
    thickness spacer. Some of the newer wheels include a spacer that's required
    with a 10-speed cassette; that spacer will be pretty thin, while the
    appropriate one to allow a 7-speed cassette to work will be about the same
    thickness as the gap between each gear.

    Of possibly greater importance is that a bike that originally came with a
    7-speed cassette might have a narrower axle width than that used for 8-10
    speed wheels. The original standard for 7-speed wheels was 126mm, while the
    8-10-speed wheels generally run 130mm, with 135mm in use for hybrids &
    touring bikes.

    Quoted message said:

    So I need to move my 7 speed cassette onto the freewheel body (the
    black plastic thing sticking out of the axle). First question. Does
    the freewheel body fit my cassette or do I have to remove the FB that
    came with the wheel and install the one from my existing wheel? The
    instruction seem to imply that I'm going to use a CN-5600 cassette,
    but I'm not.

    The only thing you're removing from your old wheel (and installing on the
    new one) is the gear set, which might include some spacers between each
    gear. You won't be removing the mechanism that has the ratchet assembly
    built into it. One you remove the cassette (gears), this will be obvious.

    Quoted message said:

    Most of the instructions are in a section titled "Installation of the
    HG sprockets". I guess mine will be similar. There are two diagrams,
    one for 11T-23T, and the other for both 12T-25T and 12T-27T. Different
    gear ratios I guess, but both diagrams show a spacer going on the
    freewheel body first. I'm confused because I thought a spacer is only
    needed for a 7 speed cassette. Maybe these are different size spacers?
    Maybe I use the one I got in addition to whatever my cassette already
    has on the current wheel? Or, will my existing cassette already have
    the correct sized spacers and the one I got is unneeded? That seems
    more likely.

    Since your instructions are for a 10-speed gear set, that spacer you've got
    is most-likely the thinner one, made for the 10-speed gear set. You're going
    to need a thicker one in order to use your 7-speed gear set.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for any help. I'm looking forward to learning more about bike
    maintenance. There's no better way to learn than having to do it.

    This is true, and hopefully it will all work out fine, but sometimes you can
    save a lot of hassle if you bring the bike into a shop and make sure the
    right thing gets ordered, especially when you're talking about older
    equipment, which can have a few issues here & there.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  4. Brian Huntley said:


    dgk said:

    So I need to move my 7 speed cassette onto the freewheel body (the
    black plastic thing sticking out of the axle).

    I can't help with your main question (and am in fact very interested in
    the answers you might get) but am wondering about the word "plastic" in
    the sentence above. Are you sure it's plastic? Those black fluted
    things your cassette normally slides onto are usually metal - anodized
    aluminum or something, I think.

    Oh, yes, probably aluminum. It just looked like plastic.

  5. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:

    My new Shimano wheel arrived today, double rim, nice spokes. The
    instructions assume that I know what I'm doing but I don't. I do have
    a decent tool kit including a chain whip and hopefully a workable Lock
    Ring tool, but not the specified TL-LR15 lockring tool.

    What type of lockring tool is it? Chances are it will work fine, as there
    aren't a whole lot of options (Campy or Shimano). And it won't take long to
    figure out if it fits... just remove the quick release and see if it slides
    in. By the way, what's a "double" rim?

    The tool came in a kit from Nashbar and looks basically like the one
    on the instruction sheet so hopefully it will work. And I guess
    "double" rim isn't the correct terminology. All my current wheels have
    the rim tape right over the ends of the spokes. On this wheel, a
    second band of metal raises the rim tape away from the spoke heads.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The wheel is for 8-10 speeds, mine is 7 but I got a spacer, hopefully
    the correct one.

    Current wheels will take a 7-speed cassette, providing you have the right
    thickness spacer. Some of the newer wheels include a spacer that's required
    with a 10-speed cassette; that spacer will be pretty thin, while the
    appropriate one to allow a 7-speed cassette to work will be about the same
    thickness as the gap between each gear.

    Quoted message said:

    Of possibly greater importance is that a bike that originally came with a
    7-speed cassette might have a narrower axle width than that used for 8-10
    speed wheels. The original standard for 7-speed wheels was 126mm, while the
    8-10-speed wheels generally run 130mm, with 135mm in use for hybrids &
    touring bikes.


    I'll find out I guess. The Sheldon Brown site says that going from 126
    to 130 doesn't require a new axle. He's talking about going from 6-7
    speed to 8-9, which I'm not doing but perhaps it's the same idea.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So I need to move my 7 speed cassette onto the freewheel body (the
    black plastic thing sticking out of the axle). First question. Does
    the freewheel body fit my cassette or do I have to remove the FB that
    came with the wheel and install the one from my existing wheel? The
    instruction seem to imply that I'm going to use a CN-5600 cassette,
    but I'm not.

    The only thing you're removing from your old wheel (and installing on the
    new one) is the gear set, which might include some spacers between each
    gear. You won't be removing the mechanism that has the ratchet assembly
    built into it. One you remove the cassette (gears), this will be obvious.


    I was concerned because SheldonBrown.Com points out that the old screw
    on type gears were universal, but that the freehub cassette model is
    not, so I'm concerned that my cassette may not fit the new freehub
    splines.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Most of the instructions are in a section titled "Installation of the
    HG sprockets". I guess mine will be similar. There are two diagrams,
    one for 11T-23T, and the other for both 12T-25T and 12T-27T. Different
    gear ratios I guess, but both diagrams show a spacer going on the
    freewheel body first. I'm confused because I thought a spacer is only
    needed for a 7 speed cassette. Maybe these are different size spacers?
    Maybe I use the one I got in addition to whatever my cassette already
    has on the current wheel? Or, will my existing cassette already have
    the correct sized spacers and the one I got is unneeded? That seems
    more likely.

    Since your instructions are for a 10-speed gear set, that spacer you've got
    is most-likely the thinner one, made for the 10-speed gear set. You're going
    to need a thicker one in order to use your 7-speed gear set.

    It didn't come with the wheel, I ordered the spacer that was supposed
    to be required to fit a 7 gear cassette; it is about the thickness of
    the gap between the gears.

    Thanks. The operation is scheduled for Saturday afternoon.

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