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  1. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by limerickman
    Two methods.
    each year I buy a diary containing A4 pages and physically write
    up, in longhand, my training session.
    I did this long before the advent of PC's and I like to have a hardcopy of this detail in one book.

    I also write my records on to my PC : Excel with pre-coded abbreviations (I really do need to get a life !!).
    Twice I have been on the recieving end of a virus (mydoom being the last one) and it scrubbed my data, so it's essential that I kepp two logs of my training.
    It's easier using my PC to write up my records but the physical copy in my diary is as good.

    Ok..just a thought. You could get a "jumpdrive" that fits on your key chain that you stick into your USB port and have your data with you at all times and access it on any computer plus, I would print out a hard copy once a week that coupled with anti virus software and you can chunk the note book...

    I know old habits are hard to break...I have a few😎

  2. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by zapper
    Ok..just a thought. You could get a "jumpdrive" that fits on your key chain that you stick into your USB port and have your data with you at all times and access it on any computer plus, I would print out a hard copy once a week that coupled with anti virus software and you can chunk the note book...

    I know old habits are hard to break...I have a few😎

    Merci,

    This is a very good suggestion - because with remote access, I could update my records with ease.

    Thanks for this Zapper !

  3. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by limerickman
    Merci,

    This is a very good suggestion - because with remote access, I could update my records with ease.

    Thanks for this Zapper !

    No problem Lim... As a mature student😉, I used it to finish my homework and projects on the road...Didn't have that technology was I was just a young lad....

    The best part is it is pretty inexpensive these days...I use the lexar Jump drive but there are many models available..Good luck!

  4. I ride Hours/intensity, record my training using Bic! I never train miles, ever. Say you set out to do 25 miles, usually a 80 - 100 minute ride. what if you have a howling gail, same ride might take you 120 minutes and be twice as hard as you wanted.....

  5. I made an excel spreadsheet with a bar graph of distance, time, average speed, and fasted speed as well as the date.

    Here's a capture of it:

    victorcarnuccio.comcapture.htm

    I am checking out the free version someone mentioned in the thread.

    victor

  6. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by kd2he
    I made an excel spreadsheet with a bar graph of distance, time, average speed, and fasted speed as well as the date.

    Here's a capture of it:

    victorcarnuccio.comcapture.htm

    I am checking out the free version someone mentioned in the thread.

    victor

    Could not go to the link. Could you email me that i could really use it im just getting started in this sport thanks. [email hidden] thanks.

    Alex

  7. I track time, miles, and heart rate. I have a Hac 4 on the way so I can also start logging cadence, elevation gain, and power output (if it's accurate enough). I think all of these are important to track if you really want to monitor your performance gain.

  8. I did about 4 hours yesterday. Sometimes this may be only 2 hours or less. If I'm pushed for time I'll simply climb and dispense with the flat so I can get a good session in a small space of time.
    I reckon it's a good idea to do a long run once a week for stamina.

    nitrogenmustard said:

    do you guys keep track of your training in hours or miles (kilos for some)

    -nitro

  9. Carrera said:

    I did about 4 hours yesterday. Sometimes this may be only 2 hours or less. If I'm pushed for time I'll simply climb and dispense with the flat so I can get a good session in a small space of time.
    I reckon it's a good idea to do a long run once a week for stamina.


    I track hours and mileage. My training schedule dictates how many hours I ride per week and how many hours each ride is. However, I write down the length in miles of each ride and keep a weekly tally so I know how many miles I rode that week and how many miles I've ridden to date.

  10. nitrogenmustard said:

    do you guys keep track of your training in hours or miles (kilos for some)

    -nitro

    I use hours because I also swim and run and swimming miles would get lost in the noise of my cycling miles 😉

  11. nitrogenmustard said:

    do you guys keep track of your training in hours or miles (kilos for some)

    -nitro

    I use miles but also record the other factors (time, weather, general feeling that day). I used to keep my own spreadsheet but have switched over to this great site BikeJournal . It is highly customizable (is that a word?) and also lets you export to an Excel file if you want.

    Enjoy.

    frico

  12. zperrys said:

    I use a free (yes, free!) Excel spreadsheet that I downloaded from bikemania.biz. It's called "BikeMania Cycling Mileage Tracker". The exact URL that appears to work is http://www.bikemania.biz/BikeMania_Cycling_Mileage_Tracker_p/bikemania_mileagetracker.htm

    Give that a try and see if it works. I like it. It doesn't let me record time or comments, but tracking miles is really what I'm most interested in anyway. I've tracked weather conditions, how I'm feeling, how many bugs I accidentally ate (just kidding on that last one), but when I'd grab my journal at the end of the month, all I wanted to know was how many miles I'd ridden. This product also has graphs that show you how many miles per ride, miles per week/month. It's pretty great, considering the price.


    I am so gradual at increasing my riding that I don't log anything. I note how far I've ridden, mainly. I mix up my riding. Some days it's fast rides and other days it's long, slow rides to burn fat. I find for me that the long slow rides also build up my upper body strength since I'm holding my weight up with my arms for long hours.

    I'm a recreational/fitness cyclist. I have a passion for cycling and have recently gotten to a new level. I started out with 20 mile rides. Now I do 40 mile rides in nearly the same time, and more so, with less fatigue when done than when I started riding the 20 mile rides.

  13. I count both Miles and Time and then feed in the info into an excel spreadsheet. I also make a record of Avg Speed and also weather conditions and type of ride i.e. flat, hilly etc.

  14. [font=Times New Roman]As far as the subject I use both, divide miles by hours and get you Average Speed. Of course I usually ride the same distance every day so it’s really beneficial to me but it wont work as well if your distance varies allot. But for me its a constant goal to move that AMPH up. Second I log with an Excel spreadsheet I designed that has distance, time, average, and a section for notes. At the bottom it automatically keeps a running total of all my entries. [/font]

  15. nitrogenmustard said:

    do you guys keep track of your training in hours or miles (kilos for some)

    -nitro

    What, TSS is not an option? That's what I use to track weekly workout dose 😄

    (I do track hours and miles though)

  16. i recently started a spreadsheet with

    food of the day once a week or if i feel miserable or just super good
    my weight
    hours of nightsleep
    kind of traing cycling running or what ever
    miles,intensity in heart rate
    notes if i had any pain at my workout or other things
    fun things i did that day(it really gives a good historry later i think)
    again how i felt on the day tired good

    i know im a freak(notice i dont train long yet) im 19 and just started to take sport seriously as well as my health

    So now is there anyone who can do better then me on his training log :eek:

  17. nitrogenmustard said:

    do you guys keep track of your training in hours or miles (kilos for some)
    -nitro


    Keep in mind that I'm a newbie.

    My spreadsheet contains Distance, Average Speed, Max Speed, Time, Temperature, Heat Index, Weather Conditions, Time of Day, Riders, Pain Level, and Comments.

    Of course, I only got my Cateye computer last week, so I've only got 2 entries in my spreadsheet so far. I'm also disappointed that average Cadence wasn't one of the metrics that it reported.

    I work with data for a living, so basically I know the importance of recording everything you can get your hands on. The whole idea of recording this stuff is to get some benefit from it later, and if you're skimping on what you're recording you can't mine it later. It's like a picture: You can never get back a picture you didn't take, but you can throw one away that you did take.

    I'm actually considering writing software for not only recording this, but for mining information out of it later (I'm a Software Engineer by trade). What would you guys think you would want in software such as this?

    Obviously the metrics would have to be customizable. Everyone tracks something different. You'd also want to be able to categorize each ride so that you can compare apples to apples later. Of course Graphs are a must, not only the ability to show the relationship of data over time, but data against data (Average speed vs. Heat Index, for example).

  18. jpwkeeper said:

    Keep in mind that I'm a newbie.

    My spreadsheet contains Distance, Average Speed, Max Speed, Time, Temperature, Heat Index, Weather Conditions, Time of Day, Riders, Pain Level, and Comments.

    Of course, I only got my Cateye computer last week, so I've only got 2 entries in my spreadsheet so far. I'm also disappointed that average Cadence wasn't one of the metrics that it reported.

    I work with data for a living, so basically I know the importance of recording everything you can get your hands on. The whole idea of recording this stuff is to get some benefit from it later, and if you're skimping on what you're recording you can't mine it later. It's like a picture: You can never get back a picture you didn't take, but you can throw one away that you did take.

    I'm actually considering writing software for not only recording this, but for mining information out of it later (I'm a Software Engineer by trade). What would you guys think you would want in software such as this?

    Obviously the metrics would have to be customizable. Everyone tracks something different. You'd also want to be able to categorize each ride so that you can compare apples to apples later. Of course Graphs are a must, not only the ability to show the relationship of data over time, but data against data (Average speed vs. Heat Index, for example).


    Just an idea off the top of my head is one thing I'd like to see is after the program mines the data it reccommends more interval training or whatever. Whatever help it could be would be showing where I hit my plateau and what I would have to do to get to the next level.

  19. Insight Driver said:

    Just an idea off the top of my head is one thing I'd like to see is after the program mines the data it reccommends more interval training or whatever. Whatever help it could be would be showing where I hit my plateau and what I would have to do to get to the next level.


    Yikes! Sounds like we need to get Chris Charmichael in on this conversation!

    The trick to having software make recommendations is that the software would have to know what recommendations to make. That would not only be tricky, but I guarantee every single person out there would disagree with the recommendations because they differ from their training program. What his program would be aimed at doing is giving you different ways of looking at your training data so you could make your own decisions. To use your own example, if you noted a start and stop to interval training sessions, you could show your progress during the time you were doing intervals and graph it, showing you if you had made progress during the intervals, compare it to your performance over the same time period while doing steady effort rides,etc. You could stack that with a graph of heart rate performance for each of these rides to show how your body reacted, and then add adjustments for conditions like heat index or precipitation.

    That's what I mean by data mining. I'll never reach a level of expertise to know indicators in performance which would allow the software to conclude how to best modify your training regimen.

  20. I didn't answer the poll because I use both. Miles when I am on the road and time when I am on the trainer.

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