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  1. Jim Price said:
    Quoted message said:

    Global warming or what.

    What. Just wait for Sunday's temperatures. The forecast is suggesting a
    50/50 chance of the highest temperature ever recorded here. I have filled the fridge with water
    and juice. Now all I have to do is try and get some sleep.

    Hahahaha - It's absolutely chucking it down here and has been for hours. Constant thunder rumbling
    away but no lightning to speak of.

    It's nicer than the stickiness we suffered yesterday, but it's killed my chances of a pleasure ride.

    --
    Dnc

  2. Jim Price said:
    Niv said:

    Just done a 45 mile round trip, really quite slowly at about 14.3mph ave. I drank over 3 litres
    of fluids & am still thirsty.

    My total for today is way over five litres.

    Quoted message said:

    Polar HRM said temp varied between 90F & 101F !!!

    Your heart is oscillating between hypothermia and fever!!! 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    Global warming or what.

    What. Just wait for Sunday's temperatures. The forecast is suggesting a
    50/50 chance of the highest temperature ever recorded here. I have filled the fridge with water
    and juice. Now all I have to do is try and get some sleep.

    LOL. Everyday is a 50/50 chance of hitting the highest temperatures ever recorded. Couldn't they
    give better odds than that!

  3. Doesnotcompute said:
    Jim Price said:
    Quoted message said:

    Global warming or what.

    What. Just wait for Sunday's temperatures. The forecast is suggesting a 50/50 chance of the
    highest temperature ever recorded here. I have filled the fridge with water and juice. Now all I
    have to do is try and get some sleep.

    Hahahaha - It's absolutely chucking it down here and has been for hours. Constant thunder rumbling
    away but no lightning to speak of.

    It's nicer than the stickiness we suffered yesterday, but it's killed my chances of a
    pleasure ride.

    Stop Press! The sun has broken through and the rain has stopped - perhaps i will get out later
    after all 🙂

    --
    Dnc

  4. Doesnotcompute said:

    Stop Press! The sun has broken through and the rain has stopped - perhaps i will get out later
    after all 🙂

    Where are you dnc? It's still chucking it down here (west of Newcastle on Tyne). Supposed to be
    cycling to coast to meet up for 'family outing' but they've just phoned to say Metro has been
    stopped by fault caused by lightning. No signs of anything other than rain at the mo :-(

    Pete

  5. Pete said:
    Doesnotcompute said:

    Stop Press! The sun has broken through and the rain has stopped - perhaps i will get out later
    after all 🙂

    Where are you dnc? It's still chucking it down here (west of Newcastle on Tyne). Supposed to be
    cycling to coast to meet up for 'family outing' but they've just phoned to say Metro has been
    stopped by fault caused by lightning. No signs of anything other than rain at the mo :-(

    T'other side of t'country - Preston Lancs. (although I'm actually a suvverna 🙂

    It's a bit overcast again now, but still not raining - bodes well. Hope it eases off your side -
    I'll forgo my leaisure ride for you to have a family outing.

    --
    Dnc

  6. Scrumpy Joe said:

    LOL. Everyday is a 50/50 chance of hitting the highest temperatures ever recorded. Couldn't they
    give better odds than that!

    Have they only just installed the weather station where you live?

    --
    Jim Price

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    Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

  7. Doesnotcompute said:

    It's a bit overcast again now, but still not raining - bodes well. Hope it eases off your side -
    I'll forgo my leaisure ride for you to have a family outing.

    Very kind of you, thanks. However as it's still raining and the pub opening time is here, I may
    decide not to waste the whole day and have a couple of beers and watch the footy. Doesn't appeal as
    much as going out tho'. I'll decide in the next half hour. I don't mind getting wet going there as
    long it'll be fine when I arrive.

    Pete

  8. Quoted message said:

    T'other side of t'country - Preston Lancs. (although I'm actually a suvverna 🙂

    Just west of you I set off about 7am expecting the cloud to clear as it did each day for me last
    week in Scotland.

    Instead of clearing it rained, heavy, and I'm off road in the back country area we call Over Wyre -
    with no waterproofs.

    I finally reached a former neighbours house and when he stopped laughing he gave me a towel and dry
    clothes. I left the bike there and he dropped me off on their way to church. After lunch I'll drive
    over for the bike. Mike

  9. Doesnotcompute said:

    J

    Hahahaha - It's absolutely chucking it down here and has been for hours. Constant thunder rumbling
    away but no lightning to speak of.

    It's nicer than the stickiness we suffered yesterday, but it's killed my chances of a
    pleasure ride.

    Lucky thing, no chance of a ride here either, but only because its 36c and rising......

    Brian Horley, Surrey, UK www.gatwickguyz.com

  10. Cicero <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : If you're drinking that much in about 3 hours you could be putting yourself in danger. There was
    : something in the news recently about excessive fluid intake. Apparently it can damage the body's
    : electrolyte or salt levels and is almost as bad as a drinking binge on alcoholic drinks. Perhaps
    : somebody can add more detail as this could be a serious problem for many people in this hot
    : weather. I certainly never drank 3 litres during any marathons even in the hottest weather.

    On a bike you can sweat serious buckets and lose lots of water via evaporative cooling (since you
    always have a self-generated cooling wind).

    I work one one large water bottle/hr in the summer. Maybe a bit more in the extreme stuff we've been
    having recently (one large bottle = 750ml).

    I had two bottles in 43 miles on Saturday (just over 2 hours (19.8 mph)) and would have stopped to
    buy some water if I wasn't near home and the end of ride.

    My legs hurt today mind 🙂

    Arthur

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, one of infinite monkeys at the keyboard of

    Jim Price said:

    What. Just wait for Sunday's temperatures. The forecast is suggesting a
    50/50 chance of the highest temperature ever recorded here.

    Where's "here"? Bet it's not as hot as my attic[1] with the sun beating down. Outside is still a
    lot cooler than a hot day in Italy, but inside is probably warmer - over there they design for
    hot weather.

    Quoted message said:

    I have filled the fridge with water and juice.

    I just got some bottles of Weizenbier - superb for the Bavarian summer, where they have more of this
    weather than we do. My fridge already contained water and juice, as it always does:-)

    Quoted message said:

    Now all I have to do is try and get some sleep.

    Last night, with the heat of the day turning to warm-bath fug[2] and declining to cool off decently,
    was the first time the weather in the UK has recalled to me the most unpleasant aspect of Italian
    summer. But it wasn't really that bad: it was clearly below 25 by midnight, and had cleared nicely
    before morning.

    Worst of all, my b***** puncture. With the metal rim heat-expanded, I had great trouble getting the
    tyre off. So I left it until two in the morning, and it was still a bugger! But it's well worth it
    if I can go for a swim at high tide this afternoon.

    [1] or in other words, my flat.
    [2] which I presume gives us the etymology of malaria.

    --
    Axis of Evil: Whose economy needs ever more wars? Arms Exports $bn: USA 14.2, UK 5.1, vs France 1.5,
    Germany 0.8 (The Economist, July 2002)

  12. Jim Price said:
    Scrumpy Joe said:

    LOL. Everyday is a 50/50 chance of hitting the highest temperatures ever recorded. Couldn't they
    give better odds than that!

    Have they only just installed the weather station where you live?


    Huh! My point is that the odds of beating the temperature record on days like today should be better
    than evens. Even odds is just plain sitting on the fence.

  13. "Arthur Clune" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cicero <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : If you're drinking that much in about 3 hours you could be putting


    yourself

    Quoted message said:

    : in danger. There was something in the news recently about excessive


    fluid

    Quoted message said:

    : intake. Apparently it can damage the body's electrolyte or salt levels


    and

    Quoted message said:

    : is almost as bad as a drinking binge on alcoholic drinks. Perhaps


    somebody

    Quoted message said:

    : can add more detail as this could be a serious problem for many people


    in

    Quoted message said:

    : this hot weather. I certainly never drank 3 litres during any marathons even in the hottest
    : weather.

    On a bike you can sweat serious buckets and lose lots of water via


    evaporative

    Quoted message said:

    cooling (since you always have a self-generated cooling wind).

    I work one one large water bottle/hr in the summer. Maybe a bit more in the extreme stuff we've
    been having recently (one large bottle = 750ml).

    I had two bottles in 43 miles on Saturday (just over 2 hours (19.8 mph)) and would have stopped to
    buy some water if I wasn't near home and the end of ride.

    My legs hurt today mind 🙂

    Arthur


    ============
    I understand what you're saying but the point is that you may not need to replace immediately what
    you lose, and in fact it may be dangerous to do so. The links cited by 'Fraggle' (above 09/08/2003,
    23.09) give a pretty good idea of the problem. It's sensible to be aware of the dangers even if
    you're happy with your present intake. People doing heavy exercise are recommended to 'listen to
    your body' but we can sometimes get it wrong. When there is strong medical opinion on the subject
    it's worth taking another look at the evidence.

    Cic.

  14. "Cicero" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I understand what you're saying but the point is that you may not need to replace immediately what
    you lose, and in fact it may be dangerous to do


    so.

    Quoted message said:

    The links cited by 'Fraggle' (above 09/08/2003, 23.09) give a pretty good idea of the problem.
    It's sensible to be aware of the dangers even if


    you're

    Quoted message said:

    happy with your present intake. People doing heavy exercise are


    recommended

    Quoted message said:

    to 'listen to your body' but we can sometimes get it wrong. When there is strong medical opinion
    on the subject it's worth taking another look at


    the

    Quoted message said:

    evidence.

    Since the 'overdrinking' is related to over dilution of, or rather messing up the balance of body
    salts and given the initial examples were where people over dehydrated then massively over
    'rehydrated' wouldn't it make more sense to firstly, try to keep yourself reasonably well hydrated
    during the exercise (Lance Armstrong -- take note) and then drink an isotonic mixture after the
    event. My personal favourite is 50/50 OJ and water with a pinch of salt thrown in if I've been
    sweating particularly hard.

    As Arthur says -- its not necessary to drink all the losses back straight away.

    On a cycling holiday in India (where it was hot even by the standards of this week and where Delhi
    belly could lead to further rapid dehydration
    :-{ ) our guide suggested a rule of thumb -- you should drink enough that
    you still pee regularly and when you pee you produce a good amount and it flows a nice light clear
    colour. If you can only [censored] an egg cup full of dark stuff once a week you ain't drinking enough.

    Unscientific but it seems to work.

    T

    T

  15. Quoted message said:

    On a cycling holiday in India (where it was hot even by the standards of this week and where Delhi
    belly could lead to further rapid dehydration
    :-{ ) our guide suggested a rule of thumb -- you should drink enough that
    you still pee regularly and when you pee you produce a good amount and it flows a nice light clear
    colour. If you can only [censored] an egg cup full of dark stuff once a week you ain't drinking enough.

    ...not really a rule of *thumb*....

    ..I'll get me coat...

    Pete.

  16. "Tony W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Cicero" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I understand what you're saying but the point is that you may not need


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    replace immediately what you lose, and in fact it may be dangerous to do


    so.

    Quoted message said:

    The links cited by 'Fraggle' (above 09/08/2003, 23.09) give a pretty


    good

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    idea of the problem. It's sensible to be aware of the dangers even if


    you're

    Quoted message said:

    happy with your present intake. People doing heavy exercise are


    recommended

    Quoted message said:

    to 'listen to your body' but we can sometimes get it wrong. When there


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    strong medical opinion on the subject it's worth taking another look at


    the

    Quoted message said:

    evidence.

    Since the 'overdrinking' is related to over dilution of, or rather messing up the balance of body
    salts and given the initial examples were where people over dehydrated then massively over
    'rehydrated' wouldn't it make more sense to firstly, try to keep yourself reasonably well hydrated


    during

    Quoted message said:

    the exercise (Lance Armstrong -- take note) and then drink an isotonic mixture after the event. My
    personal favourite is 50/50 OJ and water with


    a

    Quoted message said:

    pinch of salt thrown in if I've been sweating particularly hard.

    As Arthur says -- its not necessary to drink all the losses back straight away.

    On a cycling holiday in India (where it was hot even by the standards of this week and where Delhi
    belly could lead to further rapid dehydration
    :-{ ) our guide suggested a rule of thumb -- you should drink enough that
    you still pee regularly and when you pee you produce a good amount and it flows a nice light clear
    colour. If you can only [censored] an egg cup full of dark stuff once a week you ain't drinking enough.

    Unscientific but it seems to work.

    T


    ==========
    I agree about keeping 'reasonably well hydrated' during exercise. As I understand it the danger
    comes from the loss of 'salts' etc. These are lost through sweating and what's left can become
    dangerously diluted by excessive water intake. It really boils down to what is necessary to make
    sure one keeps reasonably hydrated without taking in an unnecessary and possibly dangerous
    amount of water.

    I personally would find 5 pints (3 Litres) excessive but the OP was left thirsty so I suppose it's
    up to the individual to find their own threshhold.

    Cic.

  17. Nick Kew said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, one of infinite monkeys at the keyboard

    of Jim Price said:

    What. Just wait for Sunday's temperatures. The forecast is suggesting a
    50/50 chance of the highest temperature ever recorded here.

    Where's "here"?

    London is my "here" at the moment. I did go to Kent on Wednesday, expecting cooler temperatures. The
    intention was to help a friend do some stuff on a black painted steel hulled ketch. Bad move.
    Yesterday Kent took the UK highest temperature record.

    Quoted message said:

    Bet it's not as hot as my attic[1] with the sun beating down. Outside is still a lot cooler than a
    hot day in Italy, but inside is probably warmer - over there they design for hot weather.

    I've been to Italy in January - lovely weather then. Clam pasta on the beach with a Peroni beer...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got some bottles of Weizenbier - superb for the Bavarian summer, where they have more of
    this weather than we do. My fridge already contained water and juice, as it always does:-)

    Indeed, I've discovered the joys of Weissbier[1] et al on the German/Austrian border. Your fridge
    reminds me of a joke about an Irishman with 3 wishes....

    Quoted message said:

    But it's well worth it if I can go for a swim at high tide this afternoon.

    So your here is by the sea?

    Quoted message said:

    [1] or in other words, my flat.

    Not your puncture...🙂

    Quoted message said:

    [2] which I presume gives us the etymology of malaria.

    Bad air would be a literal translation. It amuses me that malaria is one of the few words where you
    can almost get away with confusing etymology with entymology.

    [1]Weissbier, weizenbier - what is the difference?

    --
    Jim Price

    jimprice.dsl.pipex.comjimprice.dsl.pipex.com

    Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

  18. Scrumpy Joe said:
    Jim Price said:
    Scrumpy Joe said:

    LOL. Everyday is a 50/50 chance of hitting the highest temperatures ever recorded. Couldn't they
    give better odds than that!

    Have they only just installed the weather station where you live?

    Huh! My point is that the odds of beating the temperature record on days like today should be
    better than evens. Even odds is just plain sitting on the fence.

    It depends on whether you're running a betting shop or using it as a figurative expression, I
    suppose. Weather forecasting still can't say exactly what will happen - although they are a damn
    site better nowadays. I took the 50/50 to mean "it will either happen or it won't, but it will be a
    damn close run thing". In the event, it happened, but not by much, and not everywhere. So I think
    they called it about right, given that the peak temperature is a bit of a freak result anyway.

    Is there something you dislike intensely about sitting on the fence with something like a
    prediction? Do you think they should have gone 80/20 and fired the meteorologist responsible if they
    got it wrong?

    --
    Jim Price

    jimprice.dsl.pipex.comjimprice.dsl.pipex.com

    Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

  19. if going by the 1/4 pint/hour formula, why then do you see Lance Armstrong and Co. constantly
    taking in fluid?

    On my run on Sunday (fairly hot) I consumed the 2 bottles, and nearer the end I felt as though
    another 250ml would ahve been right as I had started feeling signs of dehydration. These signs are
    there for a reason, they cannot be ignored by simply kidding your body/mind on that they don't
    need fluids.

    BTW I have been doing the same distance now for over 4 years, and consumed the same amount of fluid
    each time - I have been dehydrated 2 times before and never wish to feel anything like it again.

    Regards

    Jim Price said:
    Nick Kew said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, one of infinite monkeys at the keyboard

    of Jim Price said:

    What. Just wait for Sunday's temperatures. The forecast is suggesting a
    50/50 chance of the highest temperature ever recorded here.

    Where's "here"?

    London is my "here" at the moment. I did go to Kent on Wednesday, expecting cooler temperatures.
    The intention was to help a friend do some stuff on a black painted steel hulled ketch. Bad move.
    Yesterday Kent took the UK highest temperature record.

    Quoted message said:

    Bet it's not as hot as my attic[1] with the sun beating down. Outside is still a lot cooler than
    a hot day in Italy, but inside is probably warmer - over there they design for hot weather.

    I've been to Italy in January - lovely weather then. Clam pasta on the beach with a Peroni beer...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got some bottles of Weizenbier - superb for the Bavarian summer, where they have more of
    this weather than we do. My fridge already contained water and juice, as it always does:-)

    Indeed, I've discovered the joys of Weissbier[1] et al on the German/Austrian border. Your fridge
    reminds me of a joke about an Irishman with 3 wishes....

    Quoted message said:

    But it's well worth it if I can go for a swim at high tide this afternoon.

    So your here is by the sea?

    Quoted message said:

    [1] or in other words, my flat.

    Not your puncture...🙂

    Quoted message said:

    [2] which I presume gives us the etymology of malaria.

    Bad air would be a literal translation. It amuses me that malaria is one of the few words where you
    can almost get away with confusing etymology with entymology.

    [1]Weissbier, weizenbier - what is the difference?

    Regards

  20. Jim Price of said:

    [1]Weissbier, weizenbier - what is the difference?

    Weissbier = white beer, a speciality from Berlin, served with a shot of red or green syrupy stuff
    in, yukk. Weizenbier = wheat beer. Usually fermented in bottle, comes either Hefe = cloudy or
    Krystal = clear. Wonderful stuff brewed in Bavaria and Austria. If you can't get the real stuff,
    Sainsbury's own brand wheat beer is a good imitation, avoid Tesco's own brand version at all costs.

    Just to drag this vaguely towards being on topic, I drank lots of Weizenbier in Austria last month
    on holiday. A large glass is a good incentive to get me up that last mountain of the day.
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