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Homemade Meal Replacement Shake Recipe

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  1. I have developed a meal replacement shake that has served me
    well in my weight loss effort (down 95 pounds in 3 years).
    I'd like to run it by you folks for comment, along with a
    few questions I have.

    My shake formula is driven by body weight, protein intake
    rate, and protein/carbohydrate/fat ratio.

    I'm a 49-year-old male and live a somewhat sedentary
    lifestyle (my only exercise is walking 3-5 miles per day) so
    my daily target protein intake rate is 0.8 grams per
    kilogram of body weight. I use a prot/carb/fat calorie ratio
    of 30/40/30. For my current weight, 180 lbs, this works out
    to a daily target of 65.5 grams of protein, 87.3 grams of
    carbohydrate, and 29.1 grams of fat using the standard
    factors of 4C/g for protein and carbohydrate and 9C/g for
    fat, a total of 873 calories per day.

    The recipe for an individual shake is calculated as if I
    were going to consume four of them each day. However, I only
    drink three, with my fourth meal being soup or salad to add
    variety. Each shake is therefore intended to provide 25% of
    my daily requirements.

    I pre-mix the shakes (without water) and store the powder in
    the refrigerator. Each evening I blend enough for three
    shakes, with 36 ounces of water, and decant them into 12 oz
    containers for use the next day.

    I use nonfat dry milk as a base and add some flavorings and
    fiber. I then add soy protein isolate, cornstarch, and oil,
    as required, to bring the formula into the P/C/F 30/40/30
    ratio. Here are the contents of a single shake using the
    recipe for my current weight of 180 lbs:

    Nonfat Dry Milk - 6.0 Tbsp Cocoa Powder – 0.6 Tbsp Splenda
    – 0.8 Tbsp Guar Gum (Benefiber) – 1.6 Tbsp Milled Flax
    Seed – 1.5 Tbsp Wheat Bran – 1.5 Tbsp Soy Protein Isolate
    – 0.6 Tbsp Cornstarch – 0.7 Tbsp Oil (flax, olive,
    canola...)– 0.2 Tbsp

    My daily fiber targets are 20 grams soluble and 15 grams
    insoluble. This formula yields 20 grams soluble and 17 grams
    insoluble.

    I supplement my diet with two multivitamins daily, as well
    as additional C, E and beta-carotene. Additionally, while I
    try to stick to the 3 shakes and soup/salad plan, I do eat
    several "real" meals each week so I'm not too concerned
    about a lack of nutritional variety.

    Here are my questions:

    1. Does a protein intake rate of 0.8 grams per kilogram of
    body weight seem appropriate? How about the 30/40/30
    Prot/Carb/Fat ratio? Do these parameters need tweaking?

    2. I've had difficulty pinning down good fiber intake
    targets. Does 20 grams soluble and 15 grams insoluble per
    day seem reasonable?

    3. I've read that some of the good things about soluble
    fiber come from the gel it forms. My shakes seem to "gel
    up" in the fridge overnight. Am I losing any benefit by
    having this gel form before I drink them?

    4. I've read that the soluble fiber gel can interfere with
    the absorption of some medications. I usually take my AM
    and PM vitamins either just before or just after drinking
    a shake. Do you see any problem with this practice?

    Thanks for your input!

    Fred

  2. Balance should be: 55-60% CHO 25-30% Fat and NEVER more than
    15% PRO as this can lead to renal other problems long term.
    The kidneys process PRO and nitrogen is a by-product of its
    metabolism. The increase puts strain on the kidneys and can
    eventually lead to failure. I have witness people in
    dialysis due to long-term high PRO intakes.

    DO NOT take multivitamins to supplement. Your diet should be
    designed to provide all necessary nutrients. In a study that
    I was a part of, we proved that the increased intake of
    vitamin tablets lead to toxic mega doses. I suggest learning
    about vitamins and toxicty before gorging yourself on them.
    Example: high doses of vitamin C can lead to "rebound"
    scurvy. As the body becomes acclimatized to high doses, the
    difference between the mega doses and normal levels create a
    deficiency and scurvy appears.

    However, your shake seems top be well thought out and your
    efforts are truly commendable. Change the balance, reduce
    the frequency of shakes and start eating REAL food.

    Check out these sites: hc-sc.gc.caonpp
    bppn/food_guide_rainbow_e.html
    dietitians.caindex.html
    dietitians.cai2 5.htm

    Suggested reading: Manual of Clinical Dietetics, 6th edition

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have developed a meal replacement shake that has served
    me well in my weight loss effort (down 95 pounds in 3
    years). I'd like to run it by you folks for comment, along
    with a few questions I have.

    My shake formula is driven by body weight, protein intake
    rate, and protein/carbohydrate/fat ratio.

    I'm a 49-year-old male and live a somewhat sedentary
    lifestyle (my only exercise is walking 3-5 miles per day)
    so my daily target protein intake rate is 0.8 grams per
    kilogram of body weight. I use a prot/carb/fat calorie
    ratio of 30/40/30. For my current weight, 180 lbs, this
    works out to a daily target of 65.5 grams of protein, 87.3
    grams of carbohydrate, and 29.1 grams of fat using the
    standard factors of 4C/g for protein and carbohydrate and
    9C/g for fat, a total of 873 calories per day.

    The recipe for an individual shake is calculated as if I
    were going to consume four of them each day. However, I
    only drink three, with my fourth meal being soup or salad
    to add variety. Each shake is therefore intended to
    provide 25% of my daily requirements.

    I pre-mix the shakes (without water) and store the powder
    in the refrigerator. Each evening I blend enough for three
    shakes, with 36 ounces of water, and decant them into 12
    oz containers for use the next day.

    I use nonfat dry milk as a base and add some flavorings
    and fiber. I then add soy protein isolate, cornstarch, and
    oil, as required, to bring the formula into the P/C/F
    30/40/30 ratio. Here are the contents of a single shake
    using the recipe for my current weight of 180 lbs:

    Nonfat Dry Milk - 6.0 Tbsp Cocoa Powder - 0.6 Tbsp Splenda
    - 0.8 Tbsp Guar Gum (Benefiber) - 1.6 Tbsp Milled Flax
    Seed - 1.5 Tbsp Wheat Bran - 1.5 Tbsp Soy Protein Isolate
    - 0.6 Tbsp Cornstarch - 0.7 Tbsp Oil (flax, olive, canola...)-
    0.2 Tbsp

    My daily fiber targets are 20 grams soluble and 15 grams
    insoluble. This formula yields 20 grams soluble and 17
    grams insoluble.

    I supplement my diet with two multivitamins daily, as well
    as additional C, E and beta-carotene. Additionally, while
    I try to stick to the 3 shakes and soup/salad plan, I do
    eat several "real" meals each week so I'm not too
    concerned about a lack of nutritional variety.

    Here are my questions:

    1. Does a protein intake rate of 0.8 grams per kilogram of
    body weight seem appropriate? How about the 30/40/30
    Prot/Carb/Fat ratio? Do these parameters need tweaking?

    2. I've had difficulty pinning down good fiber intake
    targets. Does 20 grams soluble and 15 grams insoluble
    per day seem reasonable?

    3. I've read that some of the good things about soluble
    fiber come from the gel it forms. My shakes seem to
    "gel up" in the fridge overnight. Am I losing any
    benefit by having this gel form before I drink them?

    4. I've read that the soluble fiber gel can interfere with
    the absorption of some medications. I usually take my
    AM and PM vitamins either just before or just after
    drinking a shake. Do you see any problem with this
    practice?

    Thanks for your input!

    Fred

  3. "William" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Balance should be: 55-60% CHO 25-30% Fat and NEVER more
    than 15% PRO as this can lead to renal other problems long
    term. The kidneys process PRO and nitrogen is a by-product
    of its metabolism. The increase puts strain on the kidneys
    and can eventually lead to failure. I have witness people
    in dialysis due to long-term high PRO intakes.

    I thought I'd be OK with the high prot ratio as long as I
    kept my total prot intake under 0.8 g/kg of body weight. Am
    I wrong about this?

    However, your reply prompted me to look at my carb intake a
    little closer. Wow, a little knowledge CAN be a dangerous
    thing. I didn't realize the consequences of consuming too
    few carbs. I've adjusted my
    P/C/F ratio from 30/40/30 to 20/50/30 and feel much better
    both physically and mentally. I'll probably test
    15/55/30 next week and see how it works.

    Quoted message said:

    However, your shake seems top be well thought out and your
    efforts are truly commendable. Change the balance, reduce
    the frequency of shakes and start eating REAL food.

    Thanks. The shakes are only a tool I'm using while I get
    everything else back in balance. I've lost 98 pounds in
    about three years. The first half were with a low fat and
    lots-o-beans diet. The rest were with the help of my shakes
    (and a lot of walking). I've only got about 12 more pounds
    to go so I hope to start phasing the shakes out within the
    next few months as I stabilize at my target weight.

    Quoted message said:

    Check out these sites: hc-sc.gc.caonpp
    bppn/food_guide_rainbow_e.html

    This was extremely useful to me. For the benefit of those
    following this thread, here are a few things I found by
    using the above link as a starting point:

    Carbohydrates (in general):
    books.nap.edu207.html

    Fiber (in general):
    books.nap.edu265.html

    Guar Gum (Laxation, Normalization of Blood Lipid
    Concentrations, Attenuation of Blood Glucose Responses): ht-
    tp://books.nap.edu/books/0309085373/html/275.html#page_top

    Psyllium (Laxation, Normalization of Blood Lipid
    Concentrations, Attenuation of Blood Glucose Responses):
    books.nap.edu279.html

    Using sources these I adjusted my current daily fiber target
    to 45g (30g soluble and 15g insoluble). Seems to be working
    OK so far. 🙂

    Thanks again for your input.

    Fred Please post replies here. I don't accept email at this
    address for the obvious reasons.

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