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  1. Hello

    Snce I got my Brompton, I have started to appreciate British small-wheeled
    bicycles. Dahon is getting in on the act this year.
    http://www.dahon.com/intl/hammerhead7.htm

    I have a friend who has a separable small-wheeled bike from the seventies.
    Could it be Moultonised, by getting good tyres such as Schwalbe Stelvio
    and some sort of suspension? One of those suspension hubs perhaps?
    http://www.pantourhub.com/

    I don't know what transmission it has, but it could probably be equipped
    with a derailleur and cassette. Would I be correct in assuming that would
    be lighter and more efficient than an internal hub gear?

    Erik Sandblom

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  2. Erik Sandblom said:

    I don't know what transmission it has, but it could probably be equipped
    with a derailleur and cassette. Would I be correct in assuming that
    would be lighter and more efficient than an internal hub gear?

    Potentially, yes, but is optimum efficiency actually what's wanted?
    Hubs are far more efficient at, for example, minimising pratting
    about cleaning and oiling work and they get through fewer chains
    and sprockets, which might be more desirable than a small %
    increase in Ooomph.

    Note that Moulton have been using hub gears on their bikes for
    years, and had a hub/derailleur combo years before "DualDrive" was
    mass marketed by SRAM.

    Pete.
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    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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  3. Erik Sandblom said:

    I have a friend who has a separable small-wheeled bike from the seventies.
    Could it be Moultonised, by getting good tyres such as Schwalbe Stelvio
    and some sort of suspension?

    The 1960's "F-Frame" Moultons change hands for a fiver at car boot sales
    and village fetes. They will need a strip down and in a few cases a bit
    of welding (some rear forks on the Series One), but you're starting with
    something designed for the job, which has a comprehensive support network.

    Adding suspension to something that wasn't designed for it is going to
    cost.

    Mike

  4. On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:06:24 +0100, Mike Causer wrote
    (in article <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:
    Erik Sandblom said:

    I have a friend who has a separable small-wheeled bike from the seventies.
    Could it be Moultonised, by getting good tyres such as Schwalbe Stelvio
    and some sort of suspension?

    The 1960's "F-Frame" Moultons change hands for a fiver at car boot sales
    and village fetes. They will need a strip down and in a few cases a bit
    of welding (some rear forks on the Series One), but you're starting with
    something designed for the job, which has a comprehensive support network.

    Adding suspension to something that wasn't designed for it is going to
    cost.

    Also even though "F-frame" Moultons look quite simple they are the product of
    tremendous design and research. I think that you are right that if the
    original poster or their friend would like a project then getting an F-frame
    Moulton and doing it up would make for a much better finished product.

    Small wheels and suspension are the things that Moultons are associated with
    but there is much more to the design.

    Perusing this book:

    <http://www.theclassicmoulton.co.uk/>

    Along with Tony Hadland's "The Moulton Bicycle"

    will reveal a great deal about the lovely F-framed Moultons.
    --
    Patrick
    My bikes: Moulton AM7 and two Moulton APBs - an R18 and a "mongrel"
    Pic of R18: <http://patrickjames.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/R18.jpg>

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