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High, triglycerides is it THAT important??

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  1. Hi guys,

    Some months back hubby had the video cam up the artery from the groin (can't recall what the process
    is as called) and the doc came out while he was still a bit dopy and spoke to us. He said, no plaque
    or blockages of any kind, and to quote "squeaky clean" We went away happy that the slight breath
    shortness was just the fact we live at 5000+ feet and he has congenitally small arteries on the back
    of the heart and strenuous exertion is to be avoided.

    OK, so much for background. He has been taking Gemfibrozil for high triglycerides (cholesterol has
    always been fine) for a about two years now and it suddenly occurred to me that if treating high
    triglycerides is to prevent plaque then maybe he can drop taking them.

    His triglycerides have always been high and his doc had never bothered with them (because he said
    the cholesterol was fine) until about two years back when he suggest the gemfibrozil to bring them
    down a bit.

    We both like the idea of taking as few meds as absolutely necessary for safe survival and if the
    high triglycerides are not causing a problem then why treat them?

    Can he quit the Gemfibrozil? naturally we will put this to his doc but we'd like some alternative
    thoughts so we can make some sort of informed decision.

    Thanks in advance.

    --

    Kind regards,
    Jenny and her tribe of survivors.

  2. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi guys,

    Some months back hubby had the video cam up the artery from the groin (can't recall what the
    process is as called) and the doc came out while he was still a bit dopy and spoke to us. He said,
    no plaque or blockages of any kind, and to quote "squeaky clean" We went away happy that the
    slight breath shortness was just the fact we live at 5000+ feet and he has congenitally small
    arteries on the back of the heart and strenuous exertion is to be avoided.

    OK, so much for background. He has been taking Gemfibrozil for high triglycerides (cholesterol has
    always been fine) for a about two years now and it suddenly occurred to me that if treating high
    triglycerides is to prevent plaque then maybe he can drop taking them.

    His triglycerides have always been high and his doc had never bothered with them (because he said
    the cholesterol was fine) until about two years back when he suggest the gemfibrozil to bring them
    down a bit.

    We both like the idea of taking as few meds as absolutely necessary for safe survival and if the
    high triglycerides are not causing a problem then why treat them?

    High triglycerides are believed to be more of a CAD risk factor when there is MetS in the
    background.

    Quoted message said:

    Can he quit the Gemfibrozil?

    He shouldn't if he has MetS.

    Quoted message said:

    naturally we will put this to his doc but we'd like some alternative thoughts so we can make some
    sort of informed decision.

    Thanks in advance.

    You are welcome.

    Humbly,

    Andrew
    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  3. On 20 Nov 2003 14:28:05 -0800, [email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B.
    Chung, MD/PhD) wrote:

    Hi Dr Chung, and thank you for responding.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    High triglycerides are believed to be more of a CAD risk factor when there is MetS in the
    background.

    Pardon my ignorance, but CAD and MetS, what are they?

    --

    Kind regards,
    Jenny and her tribe of survivors.

  4. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 20 Nov 2003 14:28:05 -0800, [email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote:

    Hi Dr Chung, and thank you for responding.

    You are very welcome :-)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    High triglycerides are believed to be more of a CAD risk factor when there is MetS in the
    background.

    Pardon my ignorance, but CAD and MetS, what are they?

    CAD is coronary artery disease.

    MetS is metabolic syndrome.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  5. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Pardon my ignorance, but CAD and MetS, what are they?

    CAD is coronary artery disease.

    MetS is metabolic syndrome.

    Wow, now wasn't that a highly informative description of what "Met S" is ???

    The term "metabolic syndrome" was new to me when it was mentioned a week or so ago in one of these
    threads that related to high triglycerides.

    Now I thought that the term "syndrome" described something specific (like downs syndrome). But
    "metabolic syndrome" ?? Who the hell thought of that term? Way too general. You know, we all die.
    Maybe there's something called "death syndrome". There are certainly dozens of metabolic disorders.
    Anyone of them could wear the title of "metabolic syndrome".

    Anyways, here's some USEFUL information about "metabolic syndrome". BTW, in what must have taken
    someone many days of pondering and deep thought, the term "Syndrome X" is also being used.

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    "The metabolic syndrome, a cluster of potent risk factors for atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease
    and type 2 diabetes mellitus in adults, is composed of insulin resistance, obesity, hypertension and
    hyperlipidemia."

    ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgi
    t=Abstract

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    Syndrome X, a cluster of several metabolic disorders that includes hyperinsulinemia,
    hypertriglyceridemia, and hypertension, is associated with severe vascular morbidity.

    ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgi
    t=Abstract

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    The metabolic syndrome (also known as the dysmetabolic syndrome, syndrome X, or the insulin
    resistance syndrome) represents a clustering of metabolic disorders--central obesity, impaired
    fasting glucose, dyslipidemia and hypertension--that in adults predicts the development of type 2
    diabetes and/or coronary artery disease.

    The metabolic syndrome in adults is defined according to the National Cholesterol Education
    Program Adult Treatment Panel III by the presence of at least three of five components: increased
    abdominal girth; hypertension; hypertriglyceridemia; low levels of high density lipoprotein
    cholesterol; and impaired fasting glucose. These metabolic derangements have been targeted in the
    adult population because they confer risk for type 2 diabetes mellitus, atherosclerosis and
    premature cardiovascular disease.

    grants1.nih.govRFA HD 03 033.html

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