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  1. I am a Type 2 diabetic on diet and exercise. My BG's are in the non diabetic territory. A couple
    weeks ago my GP recently put me on Altace 5 mg for kidney protection and Lipitor for high
    cholesterol.

    The problem is I am seeing a high pulse rate. I measure my BP at least twice daily. Since about the
    first of the year my systolic and diastolic are on a somewhat of a decline. The pulse was also on a
    rough decline. When a person looks at a graph the systolic decline is quite obvious. The diastolic
    and pulse are almost flat. That is until about the middle of August. The pulse went from about 80
    range to now bouncing in the 90's. My GP put me on Altace on the end of August.

    I saw the GP couple weeks ago when I first observed the pulse bouncing in the low 80's. He said that
    was no big deal. I'm a tad concerned.

    Here is my BP stats for the past 30 days Systolic 122 high
    105.8 Avg 90 low Diastolic 76 high
    106.9 avg 53 low Pulse 96 high
    107.4 avg 73 low

    My question is Why isn't Altace keeping the pulse rate down?

    What is causing this increase in pulse rate?

    Should I ignore my GP and see a cardiologist?

  2. Quoted message said:

    I am a Type 2 diabetic on diet and exercise. My BG's are in the non diabetic territory. A couple
    weeks ago my GP recently put me on Altace 5 mg for kidney protection and Lipitor for high
    cholesterol.

    The problem is I am seeing a high pulse rate. I measure my BP at least twice daily. Since about
    the first of the year my systolic and diastolic are on a somewhat of a decline. The pulse was also
    on a rough decline. When a person looks at a graph the systolic decline is quite obvious. The
    diastolic and pulse are almost flat. That is until about the middle of August. The pulse went from
    about 80 range to now bouncing in the 90's. My GP put me on Altace on the end of August.

    I saw the GP couple weeks ago when I first observed the pulse bouncing in the low 80's. He said
    that was no big deal. I'm a tad concerned.

    Here is my BP stats for the past 30 days Systolic 122 high
    105.8 Avg 90 low Diastolic 76 high
    65.9 avg 53 low Pulse 96 high
    82.4 avg 73 low

    My question is Why isn't Altace keeping the pulse rate down?

    It is not supposed to.

    Quoted message said:


    What is causing this increase in pulse rate?

    Lowered blood pressure can do it.

    Quoted message said:


    Should I ignore my GP and see a cardiologist?

    You should inform your GP about the above.

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  3. MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am a Type 2 diabetic on diet and exercise. My BG's are in the non diabetic territory. A couple
    weeks ago my GP recently put me on Altace 5 mg for kidney protection and Lipitor for high
    cholesterol.

    The problem is I am seeing a high pulse rate. I measure my BP at least twice daily. Since about
    the first of the year my systolic and diastolic are on a somewhat of a decline. The pulse was
    also on a rough decline. When a person looks at a graph the systolic decline is quite obvious.
    The diastolic and pulse are almost flat. That is until about the middle of August. The pulse went
    from about 80 range to now bouncing in the 90's. My GP put me on Altace on the end of August.

    I saw the GP couple weeks ago when I first observed the pulse bouncing in the low 80's. He said
    that was no big deal. I'm a tad concerned.

    Here is my BP stats for the past 30 days Systolic 122 high
    105.8 Avg 90 low Diastolic 76 high
    65.9 avg 53 low Pulse 96 high
    82.4 avg 73 low

    My question is Why isn't Altace keeping the pulse rate down?

    It is not supposed to.

    Quoted message said:


    What is causing this increase in pulse rate?

    Lowered blood pressure can do it.

    Could you elaborate on this?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Should I ignore my GP and see a cardiologist?

    You should inform your GP about the above.

    I saw my GP a couple weeks ago, and showed him a graph of the rising pulse rate. He said don't worry
    about it, said pulse of 80's and 90's are normal. A 60 day graph shows systolic in a somewhat
    decline, diastolic in a erratic flat to decline pattern, and pulse in a rapid increase. Quite scary
    since one would expect all three to decline.

    As you can guess, on DM diagnosis, I also had hypertension. Cozaar really knocked it down. I no
    longer take cozaar, but have some left. Could I add cozaar to the altace?

    Thank you. The pulse worry's me.

  4. Quoted message said:
    MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am a Type 2 diabetic on diet and exercise. My BG's are in the non diabetic territory. A
    couple weeks ago my GP recently put me on Altace 5 mg for kidney protection and Lipitor for
    high cholesterol.

    The problem is I am seeing a high pulse rate. I measure my BP at least twice daily. Since about
    the first of the year my systolic and diastolic are on a somewhat of a decline. The pulse was
    also on a rough decline. When a person looks at a graph the systolic decline is quite obvious.
    The diastolic and pulse are almost flat. That is until about the middle of August. The pulse
    went from about 80 range to now bouncing in the 90's. My GP put me on Altace on the end of
    August.

    I saw the GP couple weeks ago when I first observed the pulse bouncing in the low 80's. He said
    that was no big deal. I'm a tad concerned.

    Here is my BP stats for the past 30 days Systolic 122 high
    105.8 Avg 90 low Diastolic 76 high
    65.9 avg 53 low Pulse 96 high
    82.4 avg 73 low

    My question is Why isn't Altace keeping the pulse rate down?

    It is not supposed to.

    Quoted message said:


    What is causing this increase in pulse rate?

    Lowered blood pressure can do it.

    Could you elaborate on this?

    Baroreceptors in the carotid sinus sense the decreased pressure and sends signals that lower vagal
    tone. Less vagal tone increases heart rate.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Should I ignore my GP and see a cardiologist?

    You should inform your GP about the above.

    I saw my GP a couple weeks ago, and showed him a graph of the rising pulse rate. He said don't
    worry about it, said pulse of 80's and 90's are normal. A 60 day graph shows systolic in a
    somewhat decline, diastolic in a erratic flat to decline pattern, and pulse in a rapid increase.
    Quite scary since one would expect all three to decline.

    Not if you understand physiology and the pharmacology behind the medications you are taking.

    Quoted message said:


    As you can guess, on DM diagnosis, I also had hypertension.

    Having diabetes does not automatically mean you have or will have hypertension.

    Quoted message said:

    Cozaar really knocked it down. I no longer take cozaar, but have some left. Could I add cozaar to
    the altace?

    Don't see a reason to since your blood pressure is well controlled according to the
    information you give.

    Quoted message said:


    Thank you. The pulse worry's me.

    If you are losing weight, it may be time for your doctor to back off on some of the blood pressure
    medications. Folks generally need less as they get lighter.

    Are you visiting from ASD?

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  5. MD/PhD said:


    Quoted message said:


    As you can guess, on DM diagnosis, I also had hypertension.

    Having diabetes does not automatically mean you have or will have hypertension.

    Upon dx about eighteen months ago, my BP was 170/118/124. The original GP I saw at that time put me
    on Cozaar. I took Cozaar for about a month when the BP approached 117/68/78.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Cozaar really knocked it down. I no longer take cozaar, but have some left. Could I add cozaar
    to the altace?

    Don't see a reason to since your blood pressure is well controlled according to the information
    you give.

    Quoted message said:


    Thank you. The pulse worry's me.

    If you are losing weight, it may be time for your doctor to back off on some of the blood pressure
    medications. Folks generally need less as they get lighter.

    The GP put me on Altace about six weeks ago for kidney protection. The urine Microalbum U Random
    test showed as 17.9 ug/mL. Slightly above the range of 0.1 - 17. The pulse started rising a
    short time before starting Altace. A1c = 5.5, a year ago it was 5.4. Crazy blood sugars are not
    the problem.

    BP this morning was 101/65/92. I don't like that pulse, too high.

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