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  1. Hi all,
    I know I know not another pain question. But....
    After my longest run ever, 7 miles on Saturday I seem to have some
    pain in my foot. It's not PF my wife has that. The pain is on the outside
    of my right foot between the bottom my my foot and the ankle bone just
    forward of the ankle bone. It doesn't cause me to limp or anything but
    I know it's there. I ran 3 on Monday without any problem but decided
    to take a couple of days off. My next run is scheduled for Thurs, should
    I consider taking off until Saturday. Would some cushion inserts for my
    running shoes (Asics 1070 w/~300 miles on them) make a difference?
    Being 36 and this being my first problem after running for over a year.
    I'm not real grand on the idea of taking too much time off.
    Any help would be appreciated.
    HM

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    Hi all,
    I know I know not another pain question. But....
    After my longest run ever, 7 miles on Saturday I seem to have some
    pain in my foot. It's not PF my wife has that. The pain is on the outside
    of my right foot between the bottom my my foot and the ankle bone just
    forward of the ankle bone. It doesn't cause me to limp or anything but
    I know it's there. I ran 3 on Monday without any problem but decided
    to take a couple of days off. My next run is scheduled for Thurs, should
    I consider taking off until Saturday. Would some cushion inserts for my
    running shoes (Asics 1070 w/~300 miles on them) make a difference?
    Being 36 and this being my first problem after running for over a year.
    I'm not real grand on the idea of taking too much time off.
    Any help would be appreciated.
    HM

    From a post and article on what might be your problem. Sounds like you need to work on the peroneus:

    Some Magic On Rehabilitating Sprained Ankles: Free The Peroneus

    I continue to maintain that the problem of the continual re-spraining of
    one's ankle is more a function of the peroneus remaining shortened by the
    original sprain and the fascia holding the muscle in that shortened state.
    Here's some magic you can work on your own ankle or you can get someone to
    help you: Free the peroneus

    Some Magic On Rehabilitating Sprained Ankles: Free The Peroneus
    by Austin Gontang,
    September 27, 2000

    Some Magic On Rehabilitating Sprained Ankles: Free The Peroneus
    c. 2000 Austin "Ozzie" Gontang, Ph.D.

    Quoted message said:

    Hi, I sprained my ankle a good four months ago and have been doing daily
    exercises to rebuild the strength, flexibility, balance etc. They've
    worked really well and now I have progressed to very gentle running. I can
    hop, skip and jump on the ankle now with no problems. However, when I've
    been sitting, or occasionally when I get out of bed, the ankle siezes up
    and is very stiff. I then have to hobble about on it gently to ease it
    back into life. I don't understand why it stiffens up when it would appear
    to be almost fully healed and rehabilitated. Any ideas/ advice ?
    Thanks, Minnie Mouse

    Minnie,

    One thing I've found over the years is that the peroneus, the muscle which
    runs down the outside of the leg - it lifts the outside of the foot - often
    gets pulled and to protect itself it tightens- i.e. shortens. After the
    healing of the ligaments around the ankle, that peroneus (longus and medius
    portion) can remain in its semi-contracted state. which means it doesn't
    fully relax when the posterior tibialis - its counterpart - lifts the inside
    of the foot up.

    So often the sprain is gone but those muscles and fascia which splinted to
    protect the pulled muscles and strained ligaments don't let go. Those
    muscles that hold on are unknown by most people. They keep thinking ankle
    and forget the ankle residue of tightness and/or clicking may be a symptom.
    Those muscles and their fascia (the thin transparent film you see between
    the skin and the meat on a chicken breast) must be worked on through
    transverse friction, deep tissue massage or fascia release. Once that muscle
    group on the outside of the leg is freed up the ankle joint is freed up and
    it's ease of movement almost feels like a miracle has happened. There's no
    clicking and the person feels immediately a fuller range of ankle motion.

    I continue to maintain that the problem of the continual re-spraining of
    one's ankle is more a function of the peroneus remaining shortened by the
    original sprain and the fascia holding the muscle in that shortened state.

    Back to my soapbox about my reason for having people train on unpaved roads,
    grassy or uncompacted dirt is to train their stirrup muscles which are
    postural muscles (peroneus and posterior Tibialis) that evert and invert the
    ankles.

    If people keep running on flat, level surfaces that are concrete or asphalt
    the level, flat surfaces create an overuse syndrome which never let the
    ankle act as the semi swivel (not anatomically correct) it is. My reason for
    having people run on grass and unpaved surfaces is to allow the ankle to do
    what it was make to do...adjust to the terrain.

    Paved roads create an overuse syndrome because those muscles never get taken
    through a wider range of motion and therefore shorten and the fascia then
    locks them in that position.

    I think that the solution is counter intuitive. It's not the unpaved and
    uneven surfaces which are the problem. It's the paved even surfaces which
    never allow for the variability which the ankle needs to experience to
    maintain its range of motion and muscle flexibility.

    What To Do About The Tight Or Clicking Ankle

    Using A Partner

    Start about 3 inches above the ankle bone on the outside. Hold as if they
    are going to strangle the outside of your lower leg- fingers wrap around the
    lower leg thumbs pointing toward each other or one thumb rests on the other
    thumb (if more pressure is desired).

    Have them use light pressure by pushing in with thumbs as you make a small
    (emphasis on small), smooth (emphasis on smooth) circle. As you make small
    smooth circles with the foot they slowly to slide the thumbs up the peroneus
    muscle.

    The idea is that you can loosen the muscle from any adhesions and also you
    can loosen up the fascia which may be holding the peroneus from relaxing and
    going through it full range of motion.

    Stop after 3 or 4 times of small circles and they holding. Walk a few steps.
    More often than not, you'll feel less pressure around the ankle as it can
    move more freely due to the freeing of the peroneus higher up the leg.which
    takes the tightness off the ankle area.

    The peroneus and posterior tibialis are often called stirrup muscles as they
    invert and evert the foot. They are also postural muscles and therefore slow
    twitch, in that they help maintain correct posture when functioning
    properly.

    Doing The Loosening On Your Own

    To loosen the peroneus on your own, face a railing with a middle railing
    (http://www.mindfulness.com/of1.asp). Turn your body 45 degrees and place
    the peroneus side of the leg on the bar, usually the middle bar is better
    unless you're very tall. Do the same foot movement as mentioned above to
    loosen the peroneus and the fascia that may be constricting the ankle for
    its full range of motion. As you make the small circular movements slide the
    outside of the leg slowly down the railing. Start about 3 inches above the
    ankle bone and go to about the middle of the lower leg.

    If the circle made by the ankle is to big, it will be a jerky circle and
    you'll just be straining tendon since the muscles won't be letting go. So
    small circles, start penny size. The circle is not made with just the front
    of the foot. The bottom of the heel is scribing a circle also. Imagine your
    foot is the bottom of an unside down pie plate and you get the idea how both
    the front of the foot and bottom of the heel are circling. As the foot makes
    the small circles at first imagine you're screwing out the foot so there's
    more space in the ankle. When the peroneus loosens up there is a better
    range of motion in the ankle.

    Remember to do this lovingly. If you make big circles, or do it too hard or
    too fast, your body will remember the feeling when it was originally hurt,
    and tighten up even more to protect itself.

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