Headphones while riding?

hippy,
to some of us, "headphones" are the big ones designed to block external
noise. We wear earphones on bikes. I tend to turn mine off in traffic,
because the truck noise ruins the music :-)

Tamyka Bell said:

I've had a couple of incidents where people riding at dusk
with no lights and with headphones on have appeared in front of me and
as I call out a friendly "on your right" they just keep veering wherever
they please because they haven't heard me.

In their defence, much as I hate to defend the no-lights, you should
have rung your bell too. Friendly words arn't much use unless you
have made eye-contact first. Use the bell Bell!

hippy said:

[BThe only _modern_ 'guitar bands' I've got into have been Tool and
System of a Down...
psycho groupie cocaine crazy psycho groupie coke makes you high makes
you high makes you really want to go, STOP!
hippy

Ha! ... and perfect circle (Tool on a smaller gear😄 )

"Conversion, software version 7.0, Looking at life through the eyes of a
tire hub, Eating seeds as a past time activity, The toxicity of our
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Mike said:

hippy,
to some of us, "headphones" are the big ones designed to block external
noise. We wear earphones on bikes. I tend to turn mine off in traffic,
because the truck noise ruins the music :-)

Tamyka Bell said:

I've had a couple of incidents where people riding at dusk
with no lights and with headphones on have appeared in front of me and
as I call out a friendly "on your right" they just keep veering wherever
they please because they haven't heard me.

In their defence, much as I hate to defend the no-lights, you should
have rung your bell too. Friendly words arn't much use unless you
have made eye-contact first. Use the bell Bell!

Please don't call me that. I get enough of that at work.

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Originally posted by flyingdutch
Ha! ... and perfect circle (Tool on a smaller gear😄 )

Nah, too soft for me.

Quoted message said:

"Conversion, software version 7.0, Looking at life through the eyes of
a tire hub, Eating seeds as a past time activity, The toxicity of our
city, of our city"

I think we've done this before, but:

"Mind illusions accquainted Bubbles erotica Plutonium wedding rings
Icicle stretchings Bicycle shoe-strings One flag, flag number one
Hitting the paintings of the live!"

He said "bicycle" OMG! :P

Innervision: "It’s never too late to reinvent the bicycle..."

hippy
- cranking SOAD out at work in between Beyer sets and Slater sets 🙂

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Mike said:

hippy, to some of us, "headphones" are the big ones designed to block
external noise. We wear earphones on bikes. I tend to turn mine off in
traffic, because the truck noise ruins the music :-)

Tamyka Bell said:

I've had a couple of incidents where people riding at dusk with no
lights and with headphones on have appeared in front of me and as I
call out a friendly "on your right" they just keep veering wherever
they please because they haven't heard me.

In their defence, much as I hate to defend the no-lights, you should
have rung your bell too. Friendly words arn't much use unless you have
made eye-contact first. Use the bell Bell!

Good point I like to use the simultaneous bell/yell method myself.. And
what is with people riding bikes with no lights.. front or back. They
are so cheap to buy.. I have no sympathy for people who dont wear a
helmet and use lights etc. I just hope that not too much of my tax
payers dollar goes towards your medical bills.

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Don't know 'bout the legalities, but I wear 2 buds on a bike path, 1 on the
road (left ear as cars pass on the right).
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I used to ride in country Vic all the time with a Walkman but stopped
totally in Melbourne.

This morning, for some unknown reason, I decided to use them again and
it wasn't too bad at all. Something different. It _was_ 6am Sunday
morning though and not weekday peak hour so traffic volume (not db :P)
was very low.

Is it illegal? Is it dangerous? Who does it? One or both ears? Is
traffic volume (number of cars not db) an issue for you?

As cfsmtb would say... Discuss.

hippy <singing> going to the track worlds today, i'm going to the track
worlds today, the aussies will make other nations pay, i'm going to the
track worlds today, even if skys are gray, some time at the end of May,
i'm going to the track worlds today..

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In aus.bicycle on Mon, 31 May 2004 04:15:55 +1000

DRS said:

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If it's good enough for a car driver to be couped up in a sound
proof cabin with the radio, stereo or mobile going then why not for
a humble cyclist.

Their cabins are not soundproof. It's as illegal for a cyclist to
put themselves in a position where they cannot hear what's going on
around them as it is for anybody else on the roads.

Good thing that complete silence is so hard to achieve then, isn't
it.,

If course it's quite legal to ride or drive even if you are deaf
so I've no idea where you got that factoid from.

The law, smartarse. Having your stereo up so loud you can't hear what's
going on around you - things like ambulances and what have you - is deemed
unsafe. If you don't believe me go and have a chat with your local
neighbourhood magistrate next time you're passing the courthouse.

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I think headphones are more of a problem on (e.g.) cycle paths and
shared paths. I've had a couple of incidents where people riding at
dusk with no lights and with headphones on have appeared in front of
me and as I call out a friendly "on your right" they just keep
veering wherever they please because they haven't heard me. Not a
regular occurrence though.

That's where air horns are so useful. And fun.

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And what is with people riding bikes with no lights.. front or back.
They
are so cheap to buy.. I have no sympathy for people who dont wear a
helmet and use lights etc.

It's illegal here in Vic for bicycles not to have lights. And before Zebee
starts getting up in arms about the bleeding obvious check out the Road
Safety (General) Regulations 1999, Schedule 4, Traffic Infringement Code
2228 'Fail to have lights or equipment', Penalty $50. Then there's Code
2229 'Riding improperly', Penalty $50 and Code 2230 'Misuse bicycle path,
separated footpath or shared path or footpath or fail to use bicycle lane',
Penalty $50. Don't forget Code 2233 'Fail to wear securely fitted approved
bicycle helmet', Penalty $50 and Code 2234 'Use a bicycle to carry a person
who is not wearing a securely fitted approved bicycle helmet', Penalty $50.

Oh, and for the sake of the record (because it's a question that keeps
coming up time and again), Code 2232 'Ride more than 2 abreast', Penalty
$50.

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In aus.bicycle on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 05:06:44 +1000

DRS said:

The law, smartarse. Having your stereo up so loud you can't hear what's
going on around you - things like ambulances and what have you - is deemed
unsafe. If you don't believe me go and have a chat with your local
neighbourhood magistrate next time you're passing the courthouse.

I don't need to. You are the one making the claim, you get to back it
up.

And while you are at it you can explain the difference between "wearing
headphones" and "so loud you can't hear ambulances", plus you can show
which bicycle portable soundsystems can do that when earplugs can't.

And you can show how the law deals with deaf cyclists.

You claim, you prove. usenet at its finest....

Zebee

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"Zebee Johnstone" wrote

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Theo Bekkers wrote:

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Motorcycle helmets also shield you from a lot of noise, maybe they

should be

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illegal.

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Is the windrush noise louder or quieter with a lid?

Depends on the speed. I haven't ridden without one for many years. A helmet
definitely attenuates noise when stopped at traffic lights. As do earplugs.

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Me, I can't hear much over the sound of my happy tappets!

I can't hear my tappets when wearing earplugs.

Theo

ps, i find slayer, exodus, metallica, angry [censored] music
good hillclimbing music🙂

personally i like Disturbed and the music from the TDU😄

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In aus.bicycle on Mon, 31 May 2004 04:15:55 +1000

DRS said:

"Spider1977" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>If it's good enough for a car driver to be couped up in a sound
>proof cabin with the radio, stereo or mobile going then why not for
>a humble cyclist.

Their cabins are not soundproof. It's as illegal for a cyclist to
put themselves in a position where they cannot hear what's going on
around them as it is for anybody else on the roads.

Good thing that complete silence is so hard to achieve then, isn't
it.,

If course it's quite legal to ride or drive even if you are deaf
so I've no idea where you got that factoid from.

The law, smartarse. Having your stereo up so loud you can't hear what's
going on around you - things like ambulances and what have you - is deemed
unsafe. If you don't believe me go and have a chat with your local
neighbourhood magistrate next time you're passing the courthouse.

Could have sworn it was DRS demanding claims be backed up by references
for the China fatalities thread?? Must be my imagination.

DaveB (tempted to deliberately top post but there's enough annoying
behaviour here)

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DRS wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The law, smartarse. Having your stereo up so loud you can't hear
what's going on around you - things like ambulances and what have
you - is deemed unsafe. If you don't believe me go and have a chat
with your local neighbourhood magistrate next time you're passing
the courthouse.

Could have sworn it was DRS demanding claims be backed up by
references for the China fatalities thread?? Must be my imagination.

I regularly provide references, so much so I've had people complain and tell
me to back off. This one's not immediately to hand because it's not in the
Road Rules Regulations as such, it's a matter of finding the relevant case
law because it falls under your general duty of care. If this once I don't
manage to remember where I found it my credibility won't suffer one whit.

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Drs said:

If this once I don't manage to remember where I found it my credibility
won't suffer one whit.

is that 'whit' with a silent 'T' ???😄

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hippy said:

[headphones while riding]

Is it illegal? Is it dangerous? Who does it? One or both ears? Is
traffic volume (number of cars not db) an issue for you?

As cfsmtb would say... Discuss.

Each to their own, but when I ride I like to
listen to the birds, the wind through the trees,
all the stuff I never get to listen to commuting
to the bloody city every day.

I use almost perfectly slick tyres (IRC Metro-Cross Duro)
that make for a super quiet ride. I like the only
noises I take with me being that of the freewheel
(yeah, sometimes I just coast :P) and maybe the well-oiled
chain sliding though the mechanisms. Of course
sometimes there's the sound of the kids fighting in the trailer,
but my brane can just about filter that out these days 😉

When I had a tyre blowout on tour, and couldn't
find a replacement slick, the road drone from the schwalbe
annoyed the [censored] out of me, and it's not like it's knobbly
or anything.

-kt

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hippy said:

[headphones while riding]

Is it illegal? Is it dangerous? Who does it? One or both ears? Is
traffic volume (number of cars not db) an issue for you?

As cfsmtb would say... Discuss.

Each to their own, but when I ride I like to
listen to the birds, the wind through the trees,
all the stuff I never get to listen to commuting
to the bloody city every day.

I use almost perfectly slick tyres (IRC Metro-Cross Duro)
that make for a super quiet ride. I like the only
noises I take with me being that of the freewheel
(yeah, sometimes I just coast :P) and maybe the well-oiled
chain sliding though the mechanisms. Of course
sometimes there's the sound of the kids fighting in the trailer,
but my brane can just about filter that out these days 😉

When I had a tyre blowout on tour, and couldn't
find a replacement slick, the road drone from the schwalbe
annoyed the [censored] out of me, and it's not like it's knobbly
or anything.

-kt

I like the creak of my loose cranks. And I have a loud toy horn that makes
people laugh, with a rusty chain squeaking on the maladjusted derailuer.
Not to mention the broken spoke tinging on the rear stays. These are the
sounds that I love.

Marty

There's nothing in the National Road Rules about headphones. My
headphones, that I selected for the way they do NOT blockout traffic
noise, do have a stupid manufactures disclaimer - not to be worn riding
a bicycle.

I like to listen to the local radio and enjoy the traffic accidents.

I find the headphones do affect my hearing - being blasted by a horn no
longer causes a momentary loss of control, usually a swerve to the
right!; and the compliments yelled from the cars are even less
intelligble. Both very good things.

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I use headphones on my commute every day. Takes in roads, bike paths &
single track (yes it is a fun commute). I have had no probs hearing
stuff around me, I don't have it up that high. Still miss the odd
opening car door etc, but my eyesight is still 20/20.

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aeek said:

There's nothing in the National Road Rules about headphones. My
headphones, that I selected for the way they do NOT blockout traffic
noise, do have a stupid manufactures disclaimer - not to be worn riding
a bicycle.
I like to listen to the local radio and enjoy the traffic accidents.
I find the headphones do affect my hearing - being blasted by a horn no
longer causes a momentary loss of control, usually a swerve to the
right!; and the compliments yelled from the cars are even less
intelligble. Both very good things.

I agree wholeheartedly. Why should cyclists be denied the pleasure of
listening to the local radio while travelling? And it does deaden those
sudden noises which often scare the hell out of you.

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