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Guilty until proven innocent.

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  1. The theme throughout sports, in regards to performance enhancing drug
    use, is "guilty until proven innocent".

    That would be fine if they could prove innocence.

    But they can't. No matter how many negative tests a person has
    (armstrong, for example) the person cannot be proven innocent so they
    are assumed guilty.

    It's a fked up system.

    Musashi

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    The theme throughout sports, in regards to performance enhancing drug
    use, is "guilty until proven innocent".

    That would be fine if they could prove innocence.

    But they can't. No matter how many negative tests a person has
    (armstrong, for example) the person cannot be proven innocent so they
    are assumed guilty.

    It's a fked up system.

    Musashi

    There's an old saying that one rotten apple spoils the whole barrel.
    In the case of pro sports there are lots and lots of proven rotten
    apples. So, the barrel is very spoiled. I tend not to be overly
    cynical--except concerning politicians and pro athletes.
    so, I agree the system is f' ed up. But look at who f'ed it up.

  3. (gds) said:


    There's an old saying that one rotten apple spoils the whole barrel.
    In the case of pro sports there are lots and lots of proven rotten
    apples. So, the barrel is very spoiled. I tend not to be overly
    cynical--except concerning politicians and pro athletes.
    so, I agree the system is f' ed up. But look at who f'ed it up.

    Some bad apples wouldn't spoil a "innocent until proven guilty"
    system. But that's not what we have. It's SUPPOSED to be that way, but
    if there is ANY evidence you are certainly assumed to be guilty and
    even if there is NO evidece you are suspected guilty.

    The system is just on the constant lookout to prove that everyone is
    guilty. I think they would love it if everyone tested postitve for
    everything.

    Musashi

  4. Musashi said:
    (gds) said:


    There's an old saying that one rotten apple spoils the whole barrel.
    In the case of pro sports there are lots and lots of proven rotten
    apples. So, the barrel is very spoiled. I tend not to be overly
    cynical--except concerning politicians and pro athletes.
    so, I agree the system is f' ed up. But look at who f'ed it up.

    Some bad apples wouldn't spoil a "innocent until proven guilty"
    system. But that's not what we have. It's SUPPOSED to be that way, but
    if there is ANY evidence you are certainly assumed to be guilty and
    even if there is NO evidece you are suspected guilty.

    The system is just on the constant lookout to prove that everyone is
    guilty. I think they would love it if everyone tested postitve for
    everything.

    Musashi

    And while I'm at it, I think the system actually perpetuates drug use.
    Since everyone is suspected guilty, that leaves the losers of each
    race wondering if they lost because of chemicals. ' It surely couldn't
    be that I suck more or because I didn't train right! Maybe I should
    get on some of that stuff too!'

    And the riders then use that as an excuse publicly. Hell, even Lemond
    suspects everyone is on it.(have one of his bikes but he's a
    knucklehead).

    Musashi

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