Greg Lemond on doping problems...

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> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:41:49 -0700, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>
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> >(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/aug07/aug26news)

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> >Greg makes some interesting suggestions, but I have problems with some
> >of them.

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> >Not really sure how much good this would do. After all they can always
> >dope during the night or some other time. Secondly isolated from
> >whom..?? One possiblilty would be to have unauthorized people from
> >visting their hotel. This could be a bit onerous since the teams often
> >"stay at more than one hotel.
> >"keeping riders sequestered for two hours before races to eliminate
> >"unauthorized contact,"

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> Keep 'em in a windowless motel like keirin racers.

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> >Oh please Greg this is just another typical cheap shot.
> >"LeMond was also not afraid to take a thinly veiled shot at his fellow
> >Tour winner Lance Armstrong, whose Discovery Channel team announced it
> >would disband after ceasing its search for a new sponsor earlier this
> >month. "I think we're fleshing out a lot of people who are leaving,"
> >he told the newspaper. "I think a lot of people are leaving not
> >because they can't get sponsors, but because [investigators are]
> >getting serious. The guys that have been getting away with it don't
> >want to be caught.""

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> Oh full bucking [censored]!

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> The reason Disco walked off is that the hysterical, lawless antidoping hysteria
> has made it impossible for them to obtain a sponsor. The situation is so insane
> that they could not in good faith even promise that they would be able to enter
> next year's Tour as a team.

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> All it takes is, what? Someone at ASO not liking something about you, or going
> with national teams or some history about Contador and they aren't invited.

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> Who's going to invest $15,000,000 into a team under the present system.

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> Thanks for helping the riders out, Greg. The calm and perspective a cooler,
> older head can provide is really going to help the sport.

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> Ron

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Discovery is largely responsible for it's own breakup. They knew there
was already a lot of controversy flying around after the Landis
incident. To hire a rider like Basso who had questionable reputation
exposed Discovery to unacceptable risks. I am amazed that Bruyneel did
not fully realize the implications of hiring Basso.- Hide quoted text -

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One has to look at the overall situation and how it affects the teams
reputation. Sponsors are fed up and very leary of being tainted with
dopers. In my mind hiring Basso posed a unacceptable risk to the
teams reputation.

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Yeah, but if the Puerto thing had fizzled out, Bruyneel would be
considered a brilliant director for having hired Basso. I applaud him
for having the courage to take an 'innocent until proven guilty'
approach in his dealings with Basso. I doubt you agree, given your
history of calls for lifetime bans for even first time drug
infractions. You strike me as somewhat inflexible and a bit too
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Well, at least you admit it's your view, which implies that others
might see it differently.

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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:41:49 -0700, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/aug07/aug26news )

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Greg makes some interesting suggestions, but I have problems with some
of them.

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Not really sure how much good this would do. After all they can always
dope during the night or some other time. Secondly isolated from
whom..?? One possiblilty would be to have unauthorized people from
visting their hotel. This could be a bit onerous since the teams often
"stay at more than one hotel.
"keeping riders sequestered for two hours before races to eliminate
"unauthorized contact,"

Keep 'em in a windowless motel like keirin racers.

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Oh please Greg this is just another typical cheap shot.
"LeMond was also not afraid to take a thinly veiled shot at his fellow
Tour winner Lance Armstrong, whose Discovery Channel team announced it
would disband after ceasing its search for a new sponsor earlier this
month. "I think we're fleshing out a lot of people who are leaving,"
he told the newspaper. "I think a lot of people are leaving not
because they can't get sponsors, but because [investigators are]
getting serious. The guys that have been getting away with it don't
want to be caught.""

Oh full bucking [censored]!

The reason Disco walked off is that the hysterical, lawless antidoping hysteria
has made it impossible for them to obtain a sponsor. The situation is so insane
that they could not in good faith even promise that they would be able to enter
next year's Tour as a team.

All it takes is, what? Someone at ASO not liking something about you, or going
with national teams or some history about Contador and they aren't invited.

Who's going to invest $15,000,000 into a team under the present system.

Thanks for helping the riders out, Greg. The calm and perspective a cooler,
older head can provide is really going to help the sport.

Ron

Discovery is largely responsible for it's own breakup. They knew there
was already a lot of controversy flying around after the Landis
incident. To hire a rider like Basso who had questionable reputation
exposed Discovery to unacceptable risks. I am amazed that Bruyneel did
not fully realize the implications of hiring Basso.

Even forgetting Basso, what if this bozo in Germany has paper that convinces
someone at ASO that Contador shouldn't have started. It is entirely possible
that Disco would've been excluded for something they could not possibly have
known.

I've got a questionable reputation and that doesn't affect my employment. What
affects your employment are facts and rulings and sentences and evidence, not
reputation.

I CHEER for the teams that don't comply with that informal blacklist. The idea
of word getting around and teams agreeing to not hire people that the other
teams don't want to race against is contrary to modern sporting principles.
Maybe baseball could get away with that in its whites only day (with room for
some "Cubans"😉 but that isn't how sport works now.

Ron

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:34:45 -0700, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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Scott said:

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On Aug 27, 6:35 am, Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:

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> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:41:49 -0700, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>
> wrote:

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> >(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/aug07/aug26news)

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> >Greg makes some interesting suggestions, but I have problems with some
> >of them.

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> >Not really sure how much good this would do. After all they can always
> >dope during the night or some other time. Secondly isolated from
> >whom..?? One possiblilty would be to have unauthorized people from
> >visting their hotel. This could be a bit onerous since the teams often
> >"stay at more than one hotel.
> >"keeping riders sequestered for two hours before races to eliminate
> >"unauthorized contact,"

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> Keep 'em in a windowless motel like keirin racers.

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> >Oh please Greg this is just another typical cheap shot.
> >"LeMond was also not afraid to take a thinly veiled shot at his fellow
> >Tour winner Lance Armstrong, whose Discovery Channel team announced it
> >would disband after ceasing its search for a new sponsor earlier this
> >month. "I think we're fleshing out a lot of people who are leaving,"
> >he told the newspaper. "I think a lot of people are leaving not
> >because they can't get sponsors, but because [investigators are]
> >getting serious. The guys that have been getting away with it don't
> >want to be caught.""

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> Oh full bucking [censored]!

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> The reason Disco walked off is that the hysterical, lawless antidoping hysteria
> has made it impossible for them to obtain a sponsor. The situation is so insane
> that they could not in good faith even promise that they would be able to enter
> next year's Tour as a team.

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> All it takes is, what? Someone at ASO not liking something about you, or going
> with national teams or some history about Contador and they aren't invited.

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> Who's going to invest $15,000,000 into a team under the present system.

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> Thanks for helping the riders out, Greg. The calm and perspective a cooler,
> older head can provide is really going to help the sport.

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> Ron

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Discovery is largely responsible for it's own breakup. They knew there
was already a lot of controversy flying around after the Landis
incident. To hire a rider like Basso who had questionable reputation
exposed Discovery to unacceptable risks. I am amazed that Bruyneel did
not fully realize the implications of hiring Basso.- Hide quoted text -

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One has to look at the overall situation and how it affects the teams
reputation. Sponsors are fed up and very leary of being tainted with
dopers. In my mind hiring Basso posed a unacceptable risk to the
teams reputation.

Dopers they can deal with. Hysterical mobs demanding that teams and riders be
excluded on the basis of rumor and extrajudicial rulings and other such
schoolyard [censored] is out of the question.

Ron

Donald Munro said:

cyclintom said:

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> Well, it's always hard to get a clear picture of what someone is like
> from headlines but I'm beginning to doubt the motivation of LeMond.

Donald Munro said:

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His motivation is anything for a headline.

Tom Kunich said:

I see that you and he have a lot in common.

Bendan,
I do anything to get a rbr headline, I may even be in line
for a rbr Pulitzer.

I'll nominate you for an rbr Nobel if you think it'll help.

Bob Schwartz

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Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

The reason Disco walked off is that the hysterical, lawless antidoping hysteria
has made it impossible for them to obtain a sponsor. The situation is so insane
that they could not in good faith even promise that they would be able to enter
next year's Tour as a team.

Well, they claim that they had a prospective sponsor but that they
purposely decided to close shop because of what appeared to be a
threat to any sponsors. I would have taken the same position. What's
happening now is a direct attack on anyone that would sponsor cycling.
What's pitiful is that LeMond is leading the charge. Apparently after
starting the million dollar contracts he now wants to eliminate them.

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All it takes is, what? Someone at ASO not liking something about you, or going
with national teams or some history about Contador and they aren't invited.

Cycle racing is about to go into the dumper again now that they've
finally risen to the level of a REAL(tm) professional sport.

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Who's going to invest $15,000,000 into a team under the present system.

Thanks for helping the riders out, Greg. The calm and perspective a cooler,
older head can provide is really going to help the sport.

Well, it's always hard to get a clear picture of what someone is like
from headlines but I'm beginning to doubt the motivation of LeMond.

All I can think is that he's so zeroed in on the dope angle that he doesn't see
the damage. He claims to see the damage from doping (whatever the hell that
might look like) but can't see that chaos and instability and schoolyard
behavior is worse.

Ron

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The riders, and the sport itself, are pawns. And scapegoats.
Onward Christian Soldiers! --D-y

Don't say that loudly lest Osama hears and starts targetting
dopers too. One sets of fanatic fruitcake targetters is enough
for anyone.

Tom Kunich said:

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I see that you and he have a lot in common.

Donald Munro said:

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I do anything to get a rbr headline, I may even be in line
for a rbr Pulitzer.

Bob Schwartz said:

I'll nominate you for an rbr Nobel if you think it'll help.

If I make peace between Kveck and Kunich then I get a rbr Nobel
peace prize (or is that piece price). If I cure Kunich of his
delusions then I get the rbr Nobel prize for medicine. What must
I do to get the physics prize ?

Donald Munro schreef:

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If I make peace between Kveck and Kunich then I get a rbr Nobel
peace prize (or is that piece price). If I cure Kunich of his
delusions then I get the rbr Nobel prize for medicine. What must
I do to get the physics prize ?

Produce a better Chung Chart than Weiner.

--
E. Dronkert

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

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> I see that you and he have a lot in common.

Donald Munro said:

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I do anything to get a rbr headline, I may even be in line
for a rbr Pulitzer.

Bob Schwartz said:

I'll nominate you for an rbr Nobel if you think it'll help.

If I make peace between Kveck and Kunich then I get a rbr Nobel
peace prize (or is that piece price). If I cure Kunich of his
delusions then I get the rbr Nobel prize for medicine. What must
I do to get the physics prize ?

Figure out a way to transport Kunich from his parallel delusional
universe to our real one.
-BR-

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What must I do to get the physics prize ?

Get your head out of your ass so that you can [censored]?

In article <[email hidden]>,

RonSonic said:

Even forgetting Basso, what if this bozo in Germany has paper that convinces
someone at ASO that Contador shouldn't have started. It is entirely possible
that Disco would've been excluded for something they could not possibly have
known.

Suppose they try to exclude them after the fact?

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I CHEER for the teams that don't comply with that informal blacklist. The
idea of word getting around and teams agreeing to not hire people that the other
teams don't want to race against is contrary to modern sporting principles.

Well, I don't think it's just sporting principles that this kind of tactic is
contrary to.

--
tanx,
Howard

Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article
<[email hidden]>,

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(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/aug07/aug26news )

Greg makes some interesting suggestions, but I have problems with some
of them.

Not really sure how much good this would do. After all they can always
dope during the night or some other time. Secondly isolated from
whom..?? One possiblilty would be to have unauthorized people from
visting their hotel. This could be a bit onerous since the teams often
"stay at more than one hotel.
"keeping riders sequestered for two hours before races to eliminate
"unauthorized contact,"
"
This seems like a very good idea
"increasing the number of randomly tested riders to 20"

Another good idea, but some riders have naturally higher levels.
"lowering the hematocrit limit to 46 percent - the upper end of the
range considered normal in medical tests".

Another good idea, but does not go far enough. Lifetime first use bans
must be established.
"He also wants to see higher penalties for those caught cheating, but
an additional consideration for those who would act as informants."

Seems to me this is already illegal...!!
""In LeMond's ideal situation, "There would be the ability to plea-
bargain prison sentences, so when riders get busted they can rat out
the system and come back to racing in much heavier testing." He went
on to say that doping "needs to be criminalized because they are
trafficking in illegal drugs. They are prescription drugs, but they
are being illegally distributed throughout the peloton.""

Oh please Greg this is just another typical cheap shot.
"LeMond was also not afraid to take a thinly veiled shot at his fellow
Tour winner Lance Armstrong, whose Discovery Channel team announced it
would disband after ceasing its search for a new sponsor earlier this
month. "I think we're fleshing out a lot of people who are leaving,"
he told the newspaper. "I think a lot of people are leaving not
because they can't get sponsors, but because [investigators are]
getting serious. The guys that have been getting away with it don't
want to be caught.""

In this case it's whether Taylors father has set a good example with
doping not the sport.
"Despite claiming that he was "the most optimistic I have been in
years" about the state of the sport, he still holds some reservations
about seeing youngsters starting their careers in professional
cycling. LeMond's contemporary Davis Phinney has a son, Taylor, who
just won a gold medal in the Junior World Championships, and LeMond
has mixed feelings about his success. "He could be one of our most
talented riders coming up," LeMond said.

"At first I thought, 'Oh, I'm so happy for him, and then I thought,
'Oh, I'm so sad for him.' Because I don't know if I was the parent,
and my son would have won the worlds that I would allow him to pursue
it on the professional level," LeMond continued. "I am optimistic that
there is a change and it's shifting, and that maybe Taylor Phinney can
have a chance like I did where you don't have to decide to either sell
your soul to be part of a sport, or having your dignity and be proud
of doing it on your own." "

I heard that Greg Lemond is addicted to fentanyl.
He injects it under his tongue so the marks never show.

--
Michael Press

billyroll said:

Donald Munro said:

Tom Kunich said:

>> I see that you and he have a lot in common.

Donald Munro said:

> I do anything to get a rbr headline, I may even be in line
> for a rbr Pulitzer.

Bob Schwartz said:

I'll nominate you for an rbr Nobel if you think it'll help.

If I make peace between Kveck and Kunich then I get a rbr Nobel
peace prize (or is that piece price). If I cure Kunich of his
delusions then I get the rbr Nobel prize for medicine. What must
I do to get the physics prize ?

Figure out a way to transport Kunich from his parallel delusional
universe to our real one.
-BR-

Better: transport him to an even further universe with no communication
with this one.

Tom Kunich said:

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>> I see that you and he have a lot in common.

Donald Munro said:

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> I do anything to get a rbr headline, I may even be in line
> for a rbr Pulitzer.

Bob Schwartz said:

Quoted message said:

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I'll nominate you for an rbr Nobel if you think it'll help.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

If I make peace between Kveck and Kunich then I get a rbr Nobel
peace prize (or is that piece price). If I cure Kunich of his
delusions then I get the rbr Nobel prize for medicine. What must
I do to get the physics prize ?

billyroll said:

Figure out a way to transport Kunich from his parallel delusional
universe to our real one.

Have you considered the consequences for our universe ?
I'd hate to be remembered as the mad scientist who unleashed
an unconscious irony black hole into our universe.

Anyway Kunich occupies several parallel universes simultaneously.

Tony S. said:

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I don't know him at all but it sure seems that he needs constant
attention from the media. He managed to make sure that he was a central
part of both the LA bonus arbitration and the FL doping hearing.

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What are the chances that FL would confess to Greg in a phone call after
he already knew how Greg had represented the telephone call he had with
LA concerning doping?

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And what are the chances that FL would not only hire someone who would
make a phony, sick phone call to Greg, during the arbitration hearings...
pretty darned slim. Even slimmer would be the chances that FL would
overhear such a call and not put a stop to it immediately. And yet it
happened.

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I still believe in Floyd, but none of these guys are using their full
mental abilities (or at least I hope not!) an awful lot of the time. Maybe
introspective reasoning is one of those things top-level athletes have to
block out if they want to King?

Normal mental reactions and abilities are deadened when they push themselves
to ignore immense amounts of pain for hours, day after day -- particularly
in Floyd's case with that bad hip. I mean, seriously, no cyclist comes to
mind that is a brilliant thinker. Yes some a great tacticians. Bruneel and
Armstrong come to mind. Armstrong also, because perhaps he was forced to
read up on his cancer, seems to have come through his career as less of an
oaf than he might have been otherwise.

You don't ride bicycles do you?

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Kyle Legate said:

Frank Drackman wrote:

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What are the chances that FL would confess to Greg in a phone call after he
already knew how Greg had represented the telephone call he had with LA
concerning doping?

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Floyd didn't confess to Greg over the phone, but his guilt was implied:

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Greg: "If you have done something wrong, it's best to confess."
Floyd: "What good would it do?"

I'm very tetchy about reading an implied confession into that. I
understand what you're getting at, and yes, the proper response of an
innocent rider might be more like "I didn't do anything! What do I do
now?"

Not if LeMond had implied that Floyd should "confess" whether he'd
doped or not just to get it behind him. You've seen LeMond's quotes
more than once. Does that guy strike you as making a lot of sense?

RonSonic said:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:58:48 -0700, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:41:49 -0700, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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>(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/aug07/aug26news)

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>Greg makes some interesting suggestions, but I have problems with some
>of them.

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>Not really sure how much good this would do. After all they can always
>dope during the night or some other time. Secondly isolated from
>whom..?? One possiblilty would be to have unauthorized people from
>visting their hotel. This could be a bit onerous since the teams often
>"stay at more than one hotel.
>"keeping riders sequestered for two hours before races to eliminate
>"unauthorized contact,"

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Keep 'em in a windowless motel like keirin racers.

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>Oh please Greg this is just another typical cheap shot.
>"LeMond was also not afraid to take a thinly veiled shot at his fellow
>Tour winner Lance Armstrong, whose Discovery Channel team announced it
>would disband after ceasing its search for a new sponsor earlier this
>month. "I think we're fleshing out a lot of people who are leaving,"
>he told the newspaper. "I think a lot of people are leaving not
>because they can't get sponsors, but because [investigators are]
>getting serious. The guys that have been getting away with it don't
>want to be caught.""

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Oh full bucking [censored]!

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The reason Disco walked off is that the hysterical, lawless antidoping hysteria
has made it impossible for them to obtain a sponsor. The situation is so insane
that they could not in good faith even promise that they would be able to enter
next year's Tour as a team.

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All it takes is, what? Someone at ASO not liking something about you, or going
with national teams or some history about Contador and they aren't invited.

Quoted message said:

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Who's going to invest $15,000,000 into a team under the present system.

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Thanks for helping the riders out, Greg. The calm and perspective a cooler,
older head can provide is really going to help the sport.

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Ron

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Discovery is largely responsible for it's own breakup. They knew there
was already a lot of controversy flying around after the Landis
incident. To hire a rider like Basso who had questionable reputation
exposed Discovery to unacceptable risks. I am amazed that Bruyneel did
not fully realize the implications of hiring Basso.

Even forgetting Basso, what if this bozo in Germany has paper that convinces
someone at ASO that Contador shouldn't have started. It is entirely possible
that Disco would've been excluded for something they could not possibly have
known.

You're missing his main point. If you put a gun in Hizarks hands and
put him in a room full of puppies he would kill them all.

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Tony S. said:

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> I don't know him at all but it sure seems that he needs constant
> attention from the media. He managed to make sure that he was a
> central
> part of both the LA bonus arbitration and the FL doping hearing.

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> What are the chances that FL would confess to Greg in a phone call
> after
> he already knew how Greg had represented the telephone call he had
> with
> LA concerning doping?

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And what are the chances that FL would not only hire someone who would
make a phony, sick phone call to Greg, during the arbitration
hearings...
pretty darned slim. Even slimmer would be the chances that FL would
overhear such a call and not put a stop to it immediately. And yet it
happened.

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I still believe in Floyd, but none of these guys are using their full
mental abilities (or at least I hope not!) an awful lot of the time.
Maybe
introspective reasoning is one of those things top-level athletes have
to
block out if they want to King?

Normal mental reactions and abilities are deadened when they push
themselves
to ignore immense amounts of pain for hours, day after day --
particularly
in Floyd's case with that bad hip. I mean, seriously, no cyclist comes to
mind that is a brilliant thinker. Yes some a great tacticians. Bruneel
and
Armstrong come to mind. Armstrong also, because perhaps he was forced to
read up on his cancer, seems to have come through his career as less of
an
oaf than he might have been otherwise.

You don't ride bicycles do you?

For 30+ years. Ok, I overstated the pain, which would come more rarely in
certain race conditions, but all that time on the bike - or in any endurance
sport - is mentally tough, not in a challenging way, but in a deadening way.
As someone who has done ultramarathons, and has also ridden many long bike
rides, this is my theory anyway.

-Tony

cyclintom said:

You're missing his main point. If you put a gun in Hizarks hands and
put him in a room full of puppies he would kill them all.

Only if the puppies were alleged to have taken a banned substance.

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Frank Drackman said:

What are the chances that FL would confess to Greg in a phone call after
he already knew how Greg had represented the telephone call he had with
LA concerning doping?

Floyd didn't confess to Greg over the phone, but his guilt was implied:

Greg: "If you have done something wrong, it's best to confess."
Floyd: "What good would it do?"

The quotes that you supplied are from Greg's version. I don't think that
the quotes are accurate.

I think that it was more like:

Greg: "If you have done something wrong, it's best to confess."
Floyd: "What the F are you talking about?"