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sf said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

I totally agree, but I don't think that would account for the change I went
through with coffee/caffeine. I've been buying all my coffees and teas
from McNulty's in Greenwich Village since the mid-60s. If they sell a less
than good coffee, I've never found it.

You're probably drinking a darker roast than 30-40 years ago... I know
I am.

Back then, you couldn't find anything that even would be considered as
being on the dark side, at least in canned coffee off supermarket shelves.

I also think that most of the beans back then did not approach the
quality available to craft roasters today.

jim

On Sat 13 Aug 2005 12:55:14a, JimLane wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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sf said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

I totally agree, but I don't think that would account for the change I
went through with coffee/caffeine. I've been buying all my coffees
and teas from McNulty's in Greenwich Village since the mid-60s. If
they sell a less than good coffee, I've never found it.

You're probably drinking a darker roast than 30-40 years ago... I know
I am.

Back then, you couldn't find anything that even would be considered as
being on the dark side, at least in canned coffee off supermarket
shelves.

I also think that most of the beans back then did not approach the
quality available to craft roasters today.

High quality and dark roast coffees have been available at McNulty's all
the years that I've purchased from them. They've been roasting their own
beans since 1895. I was introduced to real espresso back in the 60s.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:26:31p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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Wayne Boatwright said:

During the decade of my 40s, I found that could no longer drink
caffeine without literally shaking. I switched both coffee and tea to
decaf versions. Sometime in my early 50s, I accidentally got hold of
a "high octane" iced latté and drank it without knowing. When I found
out, I realized that all the previous symptoms were gone. I've been
drinking caffeine ever since with no consequences. Wonder if it had
anything to do with male menopause?

It has everything to do with drinking "better" coffee. Darker roast
means less caffine. <s>

I totally agree, but I don't think that would account for the change I
went
through with coffee/caffeine. I've been buying all my coffees and teas
from McNulty's in Greenwich Village since the mid-60s. If they sell a
less
than good coffee, I've never found it.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*

That's one heck of a recommendation. I read all of the information they
have on line & I just ordered my catalog. I like on-line shopping vs.
catalog nowadays, so I was disappointed in that; but it will be good to
expect something in the mail, other than junk. I used to get many, many
catalogs in the mail (didn't we all?). I used to order tea from Simpson &
Vail, but a tea that I especially liked (Yunnan with gold tips) changed to
an inferior Yunan with gold tips (in my opinion) with no price change, so I
quit ordering. This was too bad for me because it is a reputable retailer.
I wrote them about it, they sent me a replacement, still of the same
inferior quality, but it didn't seem satisfactory enough to me to order
anymore since that was the main tea I drank. I've been wanting to find a
good place since then! Thank you again.
Dee Dee

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Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

I totally agree, but I don't think that would account for the change I
went
through with coffee/caffeine. I've been buying all my coffees and teas
from McNulty's in Greenwich Village since the mid-60s. If they sell a
less
than good coffee, I've never found it.

You're probably drinking a darker roast than 30-40 years ago... I know
I am.

I have never been able to drink much more than 1/2 cup of any dark roast,
without wanting to throw it up and sometimes it does come up in my throat
again. Probably psychogical, one might say, as so many people do prefer it.
I used to love Seattle's Best coffee (they had a roasting plant about 1/2
mile from our house and gave out 25cent coffee to anyone who wanted it.
They roasted a Sumatra to my taste, a medium roast, but changed it to a
darker roast very shortly afterwards; it is very difficult nowadays to find
any bean that is not heavily roasted. I prefer a medium roast brewed
strong. I still can find this, but I have to look harder and harder.
In Montreal, you can specify using expresso (an Americano) and the caffeine
is much less and leaves you not as goofy. But it's hard to find that sort
of thing here in the US, unless you go to Borders or Books a Million or some
mall shop, and then I've not even been happy with it the quality of coffee
they use for their expresso. Vive la Montreal's coffee shops! I've tried
an expresso machine, but it was probably not good enough to do the job. Out
it went.
Dee Dee

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:26:31p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

During the decade of my 40s, I found that could no longer drink
caffeine without literally shaking. I switched both coffee and tea to
decaf versions. Sometime in my early 50s, I accidentally got hold of
a "high octane" iced latté and drank it without knowing. When I found
out, I realized that all the previous symptoms were gone. I've been
drinking caffeine ever since with no consequences. Wonder if it had
anything to do with male menopause?

It has everything to do with drinking "better" coffee. Darker roast
means less caffine. <s>

I totally agree, but I don't think that would account for the change I went
through with coffee/caffeine. I've been buying all my coffees and teas
from McNulty's in Greenwich Village since the mid-60s. If they sell a less
than good coffee, I've never found it.

I used to live on Christopher Street a couple blocks down from
McNulty's. I was probably 21 or 22 and didn't know anything about
coffee. The wonderful smells from McNulty's drew me into the store and
I got hooked on quality coffee.

And let me tell you, at that tender age, I didn't know much about
anything, but living down by the river on Christopher Street in the
early 70s was a wonderful way to introduce me to just how varied life
could be. I loved that street. Still do.

Boron

On Sat 13 Aug 2005 06:15:52a, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:26:31p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

On 12 Aug 2005 23:10:14 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> During the decade of my 40s, I found that could no longer drink
> caffeine without literally shaking. I switched both coffee and tea
> to decaf versions. Sometime in my early 50s, I accidentally got
> hold of a "high octane" iced latté and drank it without knowing.
> When I found out, I realized that all the previous symptoms were
> gone. I've been drinking caffeine ever since with no consequences.
> Wonder if it had anything to do with male menopause?

It has everything to do with drinking "better" coffee. Darker roast
means less caffine. <s>

I totally agree, but I don't think that would account for the change I
went through with coffee/caffeine. I've been buying all my coffees and
teas from McNulty's in Greenwich Village since the mid-60s. If they
sell a less than good coffee, I've never found it.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*

That's one heck of a recommendation. I read all of the information they
have on line & I just ordered my catalog. I like on-line shopping vs.
catalog nowadays, so I was disappointed in that; but it will be good to
expect something in the mail, other than junk. I used to get many, many
catalogs in the mail (didn't we all?). I used to order tea from Simpson
& Vail, but a tea that I especially liked (Yunnan with gold tips)
changed to an inferior Yunan with gold tips (in my opinion) with no
price change, so I quit ordering. This was too bad for me because it is
a reputable retailer. I wrote them about it, they sent me a replacement,
still of the same inferior quality, but it didn't seem satisfactory
enough to me to order anymore since that was the main tea I drank.
I've been wanting to find a good place since then! Thank you again.
Dee Dee

I'm glad you sent for the catalog. I think once you taste their products
you'll be hooked! :-) I don't drink hot tea, but I drink copious amounts
of iced tea year 'round. My favorite for iced is their Earl Grey. It puts
other Earl Grey teas to shame, the flavor is so robust. I also like their
Jasmine teas (they have several). I keep an assortment of small quantities
of their coffees on hand, as I don't drink as much coffee a I do iced tea.
'Hope you find some things you like!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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Dee Randall wrote on 13 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

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Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

I totally agree, but I don't think that would account for the
change I
went
through with coffee/caffeine. I've been buying all my coffees
and teas from McNulty's in Greenwich Village since the mid-60s.
If they sell a
less
than good coffee, I've never found it.

You're probably drinking a darker roast than 30-40 years ago... I
know I am.

I have never been able to drink much more than 1/2 cup of any dark
roast, without wanting to throw it up and sometimes it does come up
in my throat again. Probably psychogical, one might say, as so many
people do prefer it. I used to love Seattle's Best coffee (they had
a roasting plant about 1/2 mile from our house and gave out 25cent
coffee to anyone who wanted it. They roasted a Sumatra to my taste,
a medium roast, but changed it to a darker roast very shortly
afterwards; it is very difficult nowadays to find any bean that is
not heavily roasted. I prefer a medium roast brewed strong. I
still can find this, but I have to look harder and harder. In
Montreal, you can specify using expresso (an Americano) and the
caffeine is much less and leaves you not as goofy. But it's hard to
find that sort of thing here in the US, unless you go to Borders or
Books a Million or some mall shop, and then I've not even been happy
with it the quality of coffee they use for their expresso. Vive la
Montreal's coffee shops! I've tried an expresso machine, but it was
probably not good enough to do the job. Out it went.
Dee Dee

Up here in Winnipeg, most coffee stores the like 2nd cup chain sell
numerous coffee blends, roasted beans and flavoured beans at various
roastings and grinds as well as various fresh brewed coffee.

My preference is as dark as it comes and as fine as they grind it. But I
do find the darker the roast the more chance of heartburn for me. I think
that the darker the roast the more acidic the coffee.

--
The eyes are the mirrors....
But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.

On Sat 13 Aug 2005 06:36:15a, Boron Elgar wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:26:31p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

On 12 Aug 2005 23:10:14 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> During the decade of my 40s, I found that could no longer drink
> caffeine without literally shaking. I switched both coffee and tea
> to decaf versions. Sometime in my early 50s, I accidentally got
> hold of a "high octane" iced latté and drank it without knowing.
> When I found out, I realized that all the previous symptoms were
> gone. I've been drinking caffeine ever since with no consequences.
> Wonder if it had anything to do with male menopause?

It has everything to do with drinking "better" coffee. Darker roast
means less caffine. <s>

I totally agree, but I don't think that would account for the change I
went through with coffee/caffeine. I've been buying all my coffees and
teas from McNulty's in Greenwich Village since the mid-60s. If they
sell a less than good coffee, I've never found it.

I used to live on Christopher Street a couple blocks down from
McNulty's. I was probably 21 or 22 and didn't know anything about
coffee. The wonderful smells from McNulty's drew me into the store and
I got hooked on quality coffee.

And let me tell you, at that tender age, I didn't know much about
anything, but living down by the river on Christopher Street in the
early 70s was a wonderful way to introduce me to just how varied life
could be. I loved that street. Still do.

Boron

That's enviable, Boron, as I simply love that area. There was a restaurant
in the area that I went to on every excursion to the Village, Horn of
Plenty, that served wonderful southern-style food. They had a "groaning
board" of homemade dessert, cakes, pies, cobblers, and upstairs had a very
nice piano/jazz lounge. In the summer their garden was delightful. They
had been around for decades, but I believe they closed in the late 80s. My
favorite breakfast/brunch place was a tiny little restaurant on Greenwich
Ave. called Elephant and Castle.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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Mr Libido Incognito said:

My preference is as dark as it comes and as fine as they grind it.

Me too! I grind it to powder.

Quoted message said:

But I
do find the darker the roast the more chance of heartburn for me. I think
that the darker the roast the more acidic the coffee.

You must drink a lot more coffee than I do! I don't ever get
heartburn. I fill my travel mug in the morning, drink it and that's
it. No more coffee until the following day... unless I'm having
dinner "out" - chocolate for dessert requires a "single" expresso.

Back in the bad old days before Peets opened the eyes of the coffee
drinking public (we have our niche roasters too... it's Graffeo here),
I used to drink a lot of coffee and occasionally got sick from the
caffine (flu-like symptoms). I'm glad I have better coffee choices
gererally available now instead of having to go to a destination
coffee roaster for decent beans. http://www.graffeo.com

Wayne Boatwright said:

Earl Grey

That's TEA! Love it, love it, love it.... hot or cold.

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Wayne Boatwright said:

Earl Grey

That's TEA! Love it, love it, love it.... hot or cold.

Indeed.. that is my everyday tea. I have been trying Lady Grey too,
not bad🙂

sf wrote on 13 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

Quoted message said:

Mr Libido Incognito said:

My preference is as dark as it comes and as fine as they grind
it.

Me too! I grind it to powder.

Quoted message said:

But I
do find the darker the roast the more chance of heartburn for me.
I think that the darker the roast the more acidic the coffee.

You must drink a lot more coffee than I do! I don't ever get
heartburn. I fill my travel mug in the morning, drink it and that's
it. No more coffee until the following day... unless I'm having
dinner "out" - chocolate for dessert requires a "single" expresso.

Back in the bad old days before Peets opened the eyes of the coffee
drinking public (we have our niche roasters too... it's Graffeo
here), I used to drink a lot of coffee and occasionally got sick
from the caffine (flu-like symptoms). I'm glad I have better coffee
choices gererally available now instead of having to go to a
destination coffee roaster for decent beans.
http://www.graffeo.com

I usually drink 2 pots a day or more. But I have been cutting back
replacing the coffee with herbal vanilla tea.

--
The eyes are the mirrors....
But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.

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Wayne Boatwright said:

Earl Grey

That's TEA! Love it, love it, love it.... hot or cold.

Indeed.. that is my everyday tea. I have been trying Lady Grey too,
not bad🙂

Do you take it plain, or with milk and/sugar?

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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On Sat 13 Aug 2005 09:08:48a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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On 13 Aug 2005 16:50:05 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> Earl Grey

That's TEA! Love it, love it, love it.... hot or cold.

Indeed.. that is my everyday tea. I have been trying Lady Grey too,
not bad🙂

Do you take it plain, or with milk and/sugar?

Just plain, no milk or sugar

Mr Libido Incognito said:

I usually drink 2 pots a day or more.

That's a clue!

Ophelia said:

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Wayne Boatwright said:

Earl Grey

That's TEA! Love it, love it, love it.... hot or cold.

Indeed.. that is my everyday tea. I have been trying Lady Grey too,
not bad🙂

I've never heard of that one... maybe it hasn't jumped the Pond yet.

Ophelia said:

Just plain, no milk or sugar

Good girl! It's impossible to taste the delecate flavor of tea when
it's full of cream & sugar.

Wayne Boatwright said:

Quoted message said:

I used to live on Christopher Street a couple blocks down from
McNulty's. I was probably 21 or 22 and didn't know anything about
coffee. The wonderful smells from McNulty's drew me into the store and
I got hooked on quality coffee.

And let me tell you, at that tender age, I didn't know much about
anything, but living down by the river on Christopher Street in the
early 70s was a wonderful way to introduce me to just how varied life
could be. I loved that street. Still do.

Boron

That's enviable, Boron, as I simply love that area. There was a restaurant
in the area that I went to on every excursion to the Village, Horn of
Plenty, that served wonderful southern-style food. They had a "groaning
board" of homemade dessert, cakes, pies, cobblers, and upstairs had a very
nice piano/jazz lounge. In the summer their garden was delightful. They
had been around for decades, but I believe they closed in the late 80s. My
favorite breakfast/brunch place was a tiny little restaurant on Greenwich
Ave. called Elephant and Castle.

I had many a brunch at Elephant and Castle and many a dinner at the
Horn of Plenty...other favorites in those years (much has changed
since then) were Ye Olde Waverly Inn and David's Potbelly.

Boron

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On Sat 13 Aug 2005 09:08:48a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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"sf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On 13 Aug 2005 16:50:05 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> Earl Grey
>
> That's TEA! Love it, love it, love it.... hot or cold.

Indeed.. that is my everyday tea. I have been trying Lady Grey too,
not bad🙂

Do you take it plain, or with milk and/sugar?

Just plain, no milk or sugar

Me, too. I can tolerate with sugar if given it that way, but not with
milk.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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On Sat 13 Aug 2005 11:29:47a, Boron Elgar wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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Wayne Boatwright said:

Quoted message said:

I used to live on Christopher Street a couple blocks down from
McNulty's. I was probably 21 or 22 and didn't know anything about
coffee. The wonderful smells from McNulty's drew me into the store and
I got hooked on quality coffee.

And let me tell you, at that tender age, I didn't know much about
anything, but living down by the river on Christopher Street in the
early 70s was a wonderful way to introduce me to just how varied life
could be. I loved that street. Still do.

Boron

That's enviable, Boron, as I simply love that area. There was a
restaurant in the area that I went to on every excursion to the Village,
Horn of Plenty, that served wonderful southern-style food. They had a
"groaning board" of homemade dessert, cakes, pies, cobblers, and
upstairs had a very nice piano/jazz lounge. In the summer their garden
was delightful. They had been around for decades, but I believe they
closed in the late 80s. My favorite breakfast/brunch place was a tiny
little restaurant on Greenwich Ave. called Elephant and Castle.

I had many a brunch at Elephant and Castle and many a dinner at the
Horn of Plenty...other favorites in those years (much has changed
since then) were Ye Olde Waverly Inn and David's Potbelly.

I loved the fried chicken w mashed potatoes and the meatloaf at Ye Olde
Waverly Inn, and the fireplaes in winter! I never made it to David's.
Very fond memories of all.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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