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Gold to the smartest doper.

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  1. Don't be a dope about your doping! Be smart cause if you get caught you
    might have to give up your medal to some smarter doper who was just as
    dirty. Notice the guy in second never actually get all agro about the
    cheater who beat them.

    How far down the TT results would you have to go to find a clean rider?
    RVD

  2. You'd have to go one down to the guy that Hamilton robbed of
    Gold.

    F.

    "Rik Van Diesel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Don't be a dope about your doping! Be smart cause if you get caught you
    might have to give up your medal to some smarter doper who was just as
    dirty. Notice the guy in second never actually get all agro about the
    cheater who beat them.

    How far down the TT results would you have to go to find a clean rider?
    RVD

  3. "Rik Van Diesel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Don't be a dope about your doping! Be smart cause if you get caught you
    might have to give up your medal to some smarter doper who was just as
    dirty. Notice the guy in second never actually get all agro about the
    cheater who beat them.

    How far down the TT results would you have to go to find a clean rider?
    RVD

    I do have another question: how can you be a smart doper? If you try
    to save your own blood and they store it for future use the tests can
    detect a preservative they use to store the blood, is that right?, can
    you not use the preservative and store your own blood? - Or could
    Tyler have been trying to avoid the testers from finding the
    preservative by getting a blood transfusion on the hoof? directly from
    someones body into his own and thus avoiding having to store the blood
    and avoiding the preservative showing up on a test? I hope he was not
    doping he did say he is afraid of aids, the only other alternatives
    are faulty tests or sabatoge if he is innocent.

    Also how much blood could a guy Tylers size receive in a transfusion
    without going over the allowable hemacratic level. Could he receive an
    extra pint or two? Do these dopers ever receive a concentration of
    redblood cells and forgo some of the plasma?

  4. steve said:

    "Rik Van Diesel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Don't be a dope about your doping! Be smart cause if you get caught you
    might have to give up your medal to some smarter doper who was just as
    dirty. Notice the guy in second never actually get all agro about the
    cheater who beat them.

    How far down the TT results would you have to go to find a clean rider?
    RVD

    I do have another question: how can you be a smart doper? If you try
    to save your own blood and they store it for future use the tests can
    detect a preservative they use to store the blood, is that right?, can
    you not use the preservative and store your own blood? - Or could
    Tyler have been trying to avoid the testers from finding the
    preservative by getting a blood transfusion on the hoof? directly from
    someones body into his own and thus avoiding having to store the blood
    and avoiding the preservative showing up on a test? I hope he was not
    doping he did say he is afraid of aids, the only other alternatives
    are faulty tests or sabatoge if he is innocent.

    Also how much blood could a guy Tylers size receive in a transfusion
    without going over the allowable hemacratic level. Could he receive an
    extra pint or two? Do these dopers ever receive a concentration of
    redblood cells and forgo some of the plasma?

    They don't need a preservative, just cool it.

    I would be interested in hearing what Tyler's crit level was at these races. Was it proximate the limit or was it below the field mean? Depending on which of these was present it might inferentially give us some idea whether the test is flawed or working.

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