goat meat

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Kate Connally said:

aem wrote:
>
> Kate Connally wrote:
> [snip]
> > I don't know if we're "anti-goat" so much as just not used to
> > it. It never became a popular meat here. I love it myself if
> > properly prepared. I like the Caribbean goat curry best.
> > The Indian dishes I don't care for as much, even though I
> > really love Indian food. To my taste the flavor of their
> > sauces don't go as well with the flavor of goat as do the
> > Caribben sauces.
>
> I like the Mexican (Jalisco origin, I think) birria, a spicy stew.
> Fortunately, there are many places in SoCalifornia that serve

t. -aem

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I've never had birria, but I love goat tacos. There's a stand
in the Central Market in L. A. that makes them. Just barbecued
goat meat and whatever salsa you want on it. It's a soft taco
on a corn tortilla - the only kind to make!! (P. S. I made the
mistake of not inquiring about it's ingredients before ordering
a soft taco at Taco Bell the other night (yeah, I know, blecch,
but I had almost no cash and just needed something to nosh on
while my car was being serviced and I was missing dinner - it's
cheap and filling and not too bad tasting). They used a plain
unheated, ungrilled, un-anything *FLOUR* tortilla! Yuck! What
are these people thinking? But I should have known better.
(Rant off)

Kate

I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but Taco Bell is one
of my favorite places to eat for Mexican food! You just have to know
what to order, and our local one is really good!

You are very lucky. The one in my area gets the orders wrong every time and
I call it Taco Hell. Haven't been there in about 8 years as a result. I
don't want to have to check my order at the drive-thru every time. It's not
rocket science - I want 6 crispy corn tortilla tacos without lettuce, okay?
Invariably I'd get 2 steak fajitas with extra peppers and 4 beef/bean
burritos with extra lettuce. When I want tacos I make them at home. Or I
do quesadillas. The market down the street sells some nice chorizo and
Queso farmer's cheese. Add some spinach with that between two tortillas and
you've got a meal!

Jill

Mmmmmm... Best Quesadillas are made in the foreman grill! :-)
Quick, and crisps up the tortillas nicely with less butter.

Jack cheese with shrimp is one of my fav' home made ones.

I'm sorry you have a bad T-Bell!
I live in a college town and the T-Bell is right on the edge of the
University. I don't know if that makes a difference, but lots of small
places here go out of business all the time. I've lived here now for 22
years and it's still the same one in the same location.

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I love --

Popeye's red beans and rice

Hmmm... I don't usually do Popeye's.
I don't like their chicken. Too spicy.

They do offer deep fried turkeys at Thanksgiving but
I've not checked that out!

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Taco Bell bean burritos with hot sauce

Yeah! ;-d

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Sonic chili dogs, tater tots, and chocolate malts with extra, extra
malt

Sonic Lime-ade's...

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Tara

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I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but Taco Bell is one
of my favorite places to eat for Mexican food! You just have to know
what to order, and our local one is really good!

The crispy tacos are probably what I get the most of, followed by their
grilled steak thingies (can't think of it off the top of my head but I
know it when I look at the drive thru menu), and any other item that
does not include the uncooked flour tortillas. ;-d

Quick, inexpensive and usually quite tasty!

And I get to take it home, put on a movie and take my time consuming it.

And they have root beer at the fountain!!!

I'd say they are my favorite fast food, followed closely by Jack in the
Box which has a very varied menu..... ;-) Churches Chicken is good too,
but has the WORST fries on the planet!

And I almost never go to McDonalds. <ick> ;-P

No flame here. Let's see. Where I live, We have McDonalds, Taco Bell/KFC
combo, Arby's, Runza's, DQ, and Pizza Hut. Now, let's break this down:

McD's - Grew up on them. Like the Big and Tasty burger. The new chicken
strips ain't bad either!

Might have to investigate that... My wheat intolerance has gotten worse
as I get older, so McNuggets are out!

Are those strips breaded?

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Taco Bell/KFC - Love TB but the one here is a hit/miss on food quality. The
KFC side has a simple re-stocking problem since they seem to run out of
chicken at least once a week. "Welcome to Kentucky Fried Chicken. You can
order anything you want but we don't have chicken tonight."

<grins> Now THAT is a problem! ;-)

There is still nothing on earth like KFC original recipe.
I'd give my eye teeth for their spice/coating recipe! And how to cook
decent coated chicken. That's one other thing I don't have the hang of...

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Arby's - Cheddar Cheese combo please but with the sesame bun. Later, I'll
gladly use the restroom since Arby's seems to pass through me really quick.
I think it's the -meat- they use.

I used to love Arby's cheese and beef sammiches, but I've not been to an
Arby's now in over 10 years since I went low sodium.

To me, taking a bite of Arby's roast beef tastes like I just stuck a
spoonful of pure salt in my mouth. It's amazing how you totally lose
your taste for any heavily salted foods, and Arby's RB is not "real"
meat. <sigh>

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Runza's - Burgers taste almost like what Mom used to make. No complaints
here

Never been there!

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DQ - [censored] shoot here. Sometimes good, sometimes something you wouldn't give
to the dog.

Still love DQ's plain ol' chocolate dipped cones... I think that's about
all I ever buy there except the occasional blizzard!

Current diet says no sugar tho' so it'll be awhile before I get that
treat!

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Pizza Hut - Hate it. [censored] food and the local joint has a "don't give a
[censored]" attitude.

Agreed.
I've not been to a PH in, oh, at least 13 years.

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Now, I'd love to have some other fast food places here, I'm not holding my
breath. Any road trips we make, we eat at none of the aforementioned
places.

What do you think of Wendy's?
I boycott them since they still buy Icelandic cod.
The Icelanders still kill whales and dolphins...

Long John Silvers is toooo expensive for what you get.

Red Lobster, Chili's, both WAY too heavy on the salt on most main dishes!

Subway.
No Wheat, but they are starting to cater to the low carb crowd, so I may
give them another shot, but luncheon meats are often too salty.

I can still always eat Church's fried chicken. :-)

I also still really like the grilled flavor of Burger King burgers.

DQ fries are usually reliably good.

IHOP is so so, as is Denny's. Ok for a quick coffee stop if you need a
road break to wake up. Not places I'd recommend, but ok if you are
desparate for a quicky ham and egg brekky.

I don't really eat much fast food unless I really am on a long road
trip, or just being lazy and don't feel like cooking which is rare. ;-)

If we are really short on time, dad will usually grab a hot rotiserie
chicken from Wal-mart.

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What do you think of Wendy's?
I boycott them since they still buy Icelandic cod.
The Icelanders still kill whales and dolphins...

Iceland have done some research whaling of minkie whale, a specie that
even Greenpeace admits are in no danger, it is one of the healthiest
whale populations in the world. Iceland has never caught dolphins and
Icelanders would never catch a whale of a specie that is endangers.
(Iceland even made whaling in it´s waters illegal between 1915 and the
late 1960´s because of the whaling there (mostly by British whalers,
was being to much for the whale stocks)
The US kill dolphins by the thousands and they kill more whales than
Iceland does, so do Japan, Russia and Norway. Do you boycott the
products of these countries, hypocrite?

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Katra said:

What do you think of Wendy's?
I boycott them since they still buy Icelandic cod.
The Icelanders still kill whales and dolphins...

Iceland have done some research whaling of minkie whale, a specie that
even Greenpeace admits are in no danger, it is one of the healthiest
whale populations in the world. Iceland has never caught dolphins and
Icelanders would never catch a whale of a specie that is endangers.
(Iceland even made whaling in it´s waters illegal between 1915 and the
late 1960´s because of the whaling there (mostly by British whalers,
was being to much for the whale stocks)
The US kill dolphins by the thousands and they kill more whales than
Iceland does, so do Japan, Russia and Norway. Do you boycott the
products of these countries, hypocrite?

Icelandic fishing fleets do not use "dolphin safe" nets.
US fishing fleets do.

Eating Minke whales is tantamount to cannabalism as
Whales are a sentient species.

This makes you both a hypocrite and a cannibal.
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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Icelandic fishing fleets do not use "dolphin safe" nets.
US fishing fleets do.

Then why do the US fishing fleets catch dolphins by the thousands each
year while Icelandic fishermen catch none?

Katra said:

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:40:03 -0600, Katra
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(near the dorms in college) ... Ah, to be young again, or at least
have young metabolism :>

<lol> I know that feeling....... ;-)

Kat (down 30 lbs. so far, but still have 93 to go... <sigh>
I have a $200.00 wager going with 2 guys at work and I only have 1 year
to lose it!)

Congratulations on the good work so far and good luck!

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

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> aem wrote:
> >
> > Kate Connally wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > I don't know if we're "anti-goat" so much as just not used to
> > > it.

-aem

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>
> I've never had birria, but I love goat tacos. There's a stand
> in the Central Market in L. A. that makes them. Just barbecued
> goat meat and whatever salsa you want on it. It's a soft taco
> on a corn tortilla - the only kind to make!! (P. S. I made the
> mistake of not inquiring about it's ingredients before ordering
> a soft taco at Taco Bell the other night (yeah, I know, blecch,
> (Rant off)
>
> Kate

I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but Taco Bell is one
of my favorite places to eat for Mexican food! You just have to know
what to order, and our local one is really good!

You are very lucky. The one in my area gets the orders wrong every time

and

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I call it Taco Hell.

Or I

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do quesadillas. The market down the street sells some nice chorizo and
Queso farmer's cheese. Add some spinach with that between two tortillas

and

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you've got a meal!

Jill

Mmmmmm... Best Quesadillas are made in the foreman grill! :-)
Quick, and crisps up the tortillas nicely with less butter.

I have a quesadilla baker and spray canola oil on it 🙂 It's one of the few
small kitchen appliances I get regular use out of.

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Jack cheese with shrimp is one of my fav' home made ones.

Yep, that's excellent, too! Or mushroom, cheese and spinach (can you tell I
adore spinach?)

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I'm sorry you have a bad T-Bell!

The service just sucked, that's all. When I did go there I'd say, "This
isn't what I ordered" and their attitude was, "Are you sure?" I think I
know what I ordered!

Jill

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I live in a college town and the T-Bell is right on the edge of the
University. I don't know if that makes a difference, but lots of small
places here go out of business all the time. I've lived here now for 22
years and it's still the same one in the same location.

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Katra said:

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:40:03 -0600, Katra
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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(near the dorms in college) ... Ah, to be young again, or at least
have young metabolism :>

<lol> I know that feeling....... ;-)

Kat (down 30 lbs. so far, but still have 93 to go... <sigh>
I have a $200.00 wager going with 2 guys at work and I only have 1 year
to lose it!)

Congratulations on the good work so far and good luck!

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Thanks! :-)
Going to see a good endocrinologist finally paid off......
And she is so fun and so sweet too!
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Mmmmmm... Best Quesadillas are made in the foreman grill! :-)
Quick, and crisps up the tortillas nicely with less butter.

I have a quesadilla baker and spray canola oil on it 🙂 It's one of the few
small kitchen appliances I get regular use out of.

Cool! :-)
What's it look like?

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Jack cheese with shrimp is one of my fav' home made ones.

Yep, that's excellent, too! Or mushroom, cheese and spinach (can you tell I
adore spinach?)

Heheheh! I buy the pre-washed bags of baby spinach! I love it too and
those have a variety of uses. I prefer the fresh to canned but the
bunches are a PITA to get all the sand out of.

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I'm sorry you have a bad T-Bell!

The service just sucked, that's all. When I did go there I'd say, "This
isn't what I ordered" and their attitude was, "Are you sure?" I think I
know what I ordered!

Jill

<shakes head>
Sounds like the corporate headquarters needs an e-mail......

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I live in a college town and the T-Bell is right on the edge of the
University. I don't know if that makes a difference, but lots of small
places here go out of business all the time. I've lived here now for 22
years and it's still the same one in the same location.

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Mmmmmm... Best Quesadillas are made in the foreman grill! :-)
Quick, and crisps up the tortillas nicely with less butter.

I have a quesadilla baker and spray canola oil on it 🙂 It's one of the

few

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small kitchen appliances I get regular use out of.

Cool! :-)
What's it look like?

Like this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006BSX0/104-2582823-2269542

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Jack cheese with shrimp is one of my fav' home made ones.

Yep, that's excellent, too! Or mushroom, cheese and spinach (can you

tell I

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adore spinach?)

Heheheh! I buy the pre-washed bags of baby spinach! I love it too and
those have a variety of uses. I prefer the fresh to canned but the
bunches are a PITA to get all the sand out of.

Canned spinach sucks; frozen leaf spinach (not chopped) is a pretty good
pre-washed substitute for the fresh stuff.

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I'm sorry you have a bad T-Bell!

The service just sucked, that's all. When I did go there I'd say, "This
isn't what I ordered" and their attitude was, "Are you sure?" I think I
know what I ordered!

Jill

<shakes head>
Sounds like the corporate headquarters needs an e-mail......

I don't care enough to bother. It wasn't the corporation, it was the local
employees. (sigh)

Jill

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I live in a college town and the T-Bell is right on the edge of the
University. I don't know if that makes a difference, but lots of small
places here go out of business all the time. I've lived here now for

22

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years and it's still the same one in the same location.

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Taco Bell/KFC - Love TB but the one here is a hit/miss on food quality. The
KFC side has a simple re-stocking problem since they seem to run out of
chicken at least once a week. "Welcome to Kentucky Fried Chicken. You can
order anything you want but we don't have chicken tonight."

Anyone remember when Taco Bell sold Bell Beefers (earlier called Bell
Burgers)? It was a loose meat (beef) sandwich on a steamed hamburger
bun. The meat seemed to be the same seasoned ground beef used in the
tacos. Shredded cheese was also included.

Does anyone remember when Kentucky Fried Chicken sold hamburgers. In
1965-66 in San Jose, California, local KFC's sold hamburgers. They had
a thousand island dressing type of sauce in them and they were really
good.

Rusty
Sacramento, CA

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>
> Mmmmmm... Best Quesadillas are made in the foreman grill! :-)
> Quick, and crisps up the tortillas nicely with less butter.
>
I have a quesadilla baker and spray canola oil on it 🙂 It's one of the

few

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small kitchen appliances I get regular use out of.

Cool! :-)
What's it look like?

Like this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006BSX0/104-2582823-2269542

Wow, fancy! :-)
Looks like quesadillas are a regular part of your diet eh? <lol>
I adore them as well, but at this point I just use the foreman and fold
them over. I use low carb tortillas.

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> Jack cheese with shrimp is one of my fav' home made ones.
>
Yep, that's excellent, too! Or mushroom, cheese and spinach (can you

tell I

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adore spinach?)

Heheheh! I buy the pre-washed bags of baby spinach! I love it too and
those have a variety of uses. I prefer the fresh to canned but the
bunches are a PITA to get all the sand out of.

Canned spinach sucks; frozen leaf spinach (not chopped) is a pretty good
pre-washed substitute for the fresh stuff.

I've honestly never tried frozen spinach...
I've never been overly fond of frozen veggies except for frozen niblet
corn. ;-d

I have SO much chard growing in the garden this year tho' I don't
anticipate having to buy much spinach! <lol>
I'ts growing very well! I'm hoping the heat this summer won't kill it. I
might erect a shade cloth if it becomes a problem, or transplant it into
large contaiers inside the shaded greenhouse.

I adore chard. Even more than spinach!

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> I'm sorry you have a bad T-Bell!

The service just sucked, that's all. When I did go there I'd say, "This
isn't what I ordered" and their attitude was, "Are you sure?" I think I
know what I ordered!

Jill

<shakes head>
Sounds like the corporate headquarters needs an e-mail......

I don't care enough to bother. It wasn't the corporation, it was the local
employees. (sigh)

Jill

Indeed...
Did you talk to the manager?

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Kat (down 30 lbs. so far, but still have 93 to go... <sigh>
I have a $200.00 wager going with 2 guys at work and I only have 1

year

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to lose it!)

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You have a $200 bet that you can lose 123lbs in a year? Well, it's an
admirable goal (if that's what you need to lose), but are you sure this
is entirely safe? In fact, it sounds downright reckless to me.

Are you absolutely certain?

(Well done on the 30 so far, though!)

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Katra said:

Kat (down 30 lbs. so far, but still have 93 to go... <sigh>
I have a $200.00 wager going with 2 guys at work and I only have 1

year

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to lose it!)

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You have a $200 bet that you can lose 123 lbs in a year? Well, it's an
admirable goal (if that's what you need to lose), but are you sure this
is entirely safe? In fact, it sounds downright reckless to me.

Why? :-)
A good diet if followed properly (and supplemented with a walking
program) SHOULD lose you 10 lbs. per month...

I started Jan. 4th so am on schedule at this point...

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Are you absolutely certain?

Yes.

And yes, I need to lose 123 lbs. I started at 273 and my goal weight is
150. I'm 5' 6" with a heavy bone structure. I plan to start weight
lifting again once I get below 200. Muscle is heavy and I tend to gain
muscle fairly easily if I keep my protein intake up and practice proper
weight training techniques.

Last time I lost weight, (12 years ago) I lost 80 lbs. in 6 months, but
I starved it off so that is why it came back. I'd fast for 3 to 5 days
at a time. The longest I fasted was 2 weeks. I was also weight lifting
heavy 3 days per week at the same time. Oddly enough, I never did feel
weak. <G> I managed to get my deadlift up to 210 lbs. Never could bench
over 90 tho'. :-(

The dangers of fasting are over-rated. I did take a lot of vitamin
supplements, including amino acids.

I do NOT however recommend that to anyone! <lol>

This time I've made a LOT of permanent lifestyle and dietary changes. I
don't eat the way I used to. Not at all, nor will I ever again.

For one thing, I've spent the last 10 years learning nutrition and
learning how to cook! <G>

And my Dr. has finally helped me get my thyroid levels right with the
right Thyrolar dosages, and we are addressing the insulin resistance
issue.

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(Well done on the 30 so far, though!)

Thanks!

I'll report at the end of the year if I was successful...
And I'll post pictures. ;-)

Kat

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Are you absolutely certain?

Yes.

And yes, I need to lose 123 lbs. I started at 273 and my goal weight

is

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150. I'm 5' 6" with a heavy bone structure. I plan to start weight
lifting again once I get below 200. Muscle is heavy and I tend to

gain

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muscle fairly easily if I keep my protein intake up and practice

proper

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weight training techniques.

Just a tip. If you get to a plateau and can't seem to get off, try
throwing in 3-6 oz of extra protein every 2-3 days at uneven intervals,
for two weeks. After that, you should lose easily again.

Best of luck with your plan - it's ambitious, but you can do it!

-L.
(Duchess of Dieting)

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-L. said:

Katra wrote:
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Are you absolutely certain?

Yes.

And yes, I need to lose 123 lbs. I started at 273 and my goal weight

is

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150. I'm 5' 6" with a heavy bone structure. I plan to start weight
lifting again once I get below 200. Muscle is heavy and I tend to

gain

Quoted message said:

muscle fairly easily if I keep my protein intake up and practice

proper

Quoted message said:

weight training techniques.

Just a tip. If you get to a plateau and can't seem to get off, try
throwing in 3-6 oz of extra protein every 2-3 days at uneven intervals,
for two weeks. After that, you should lose easily again.

Groovy! :-)
I've found that just about any variance from the regular diet can break
a plateau, but that is a great tip, thanks!

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Best of luck with your plan - it's ambitious, but you can do it!

-L.
(Duchess of Dieting)

<lol>
Same here... Been fighting this all my life,
but I think I have it down to the right science for my own body this
time!

Thank you!
Kat

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K.

Katra said:

And yes, I need to lose 123 lbs. I started at 273 and my goal weight is
150. I'm 5' 6" with a heavy bone structure. I plan to start weight
lifting again once I get below 200. Muscle is heavy and I tend to gain
muscle fairly easily if I keep my protein intake up and practice proper
weight training techniques.

Last time I lost weight, (12 years ago) I lost 80 lbs. in 6 months, but
I starved it off so that is why it came back. I'd fast for 3 to 5 days
at a time. The longest I fasted was 2 weeks. I was also weight lifting
heavy 3 days per week at the same time. Oddly enough, I never did feel
weak. <G> I managed to get my deadlift up to 210 lbs. Never could bench
over 90 tho'. :-(

I can lose weight quickly by cutting back on intake, especially sugars. The problem is that when the diet ends the weight comes back with interest,
and the first taste of sugar in a few weeks seats me off on a sugar binge and I lose my conscience. I once managed to lose 30 pounds, but 3-4 pounds
per year sneaking back on add up.

Bad eating habits at work did not help matters much, so now that I am retired it is time to get serious about losing some weight. Besides, I took up
horseback riding and it would be easier for me and for the horses if there was less of me to lug around. I had a membership at the Y, but it was 25
miles away and I did not get down there often enough. This month a new Y facility opened up only 3 miles from my house. I have no excuses now. I go
there every day and my exercise regime lasts about 1 1/2 hours. It was disappointing the first week when I gained a few pounds, but now I am losing
2-3 pounds per week.

The net loss is not that great yet, but clothing is starting to get loose on me. I feel a lot more energetic and I find the riding lessons less
tiring.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Katra said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"-L." <[email hidden]> wrote:

....

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And yes, I need to lose 123 lbs. I started at 273 and my goal weight

is

Quoted message said:

150. I'm 5' 6" with a heavy bone structure. I plan to start weight
lifting again once I get below 200. Muscle is heavy and I tend to

gain

Quoted message said:

muscle fairly easily if I keep my protein intake up and practice

proper

Quoted message said:

weight training techniques.

Just a tip. If you get to a plateau and can't seem to get off, try
throwing in 3-6 oz of extra protein every 2-3 days at uneven intervals,
for two weeks. After that, you should lose easily again.

Groovy! :-)
I've found that just about any variance from the regular diet can break
a plateau, but that is a great tip, thanks!

You may want to resume weight training sooner -- cardio doesn't
give the same degree of post-workout increase in the metabolism,
and lifting should help to keep muscle loss lower than fat loss.
I don't have as much to go, nor as ambitious a program, but I'm
now trying to shake myself off a plateau. Good luck!

_.-In rec.food.cooking, Katra wrote the following -._

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Kat (down 30 lbs. so far, but still have 93 to go... <sigh>
I have a $200.00 wager going with 2 guys at work and I only have 1 year
to lose it!)

The max amount anyone should try to loose without a once a week doctor
visit is about 115 figuring 2 pounds a week give or take a little.
You may want to rethink your bet.

Loosing even 100 a year is unsafe and can lead to lots of medical
problems that you may not be aware of. Please see a doctor.

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