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  1. Hi there everyone, I am hoping I can get some help.

    I have recently been tested for coeliac disease by my doctor after
    several years of ill-effects after eating, mostly related to
    drowsiness.

    My results are now back and I wont be in to see my doctor for another
    three weeks so I was hoping I could get a general feel for what the
    results might mean.

    They are as follows.

    ------------snip-----------------------

    Tissue Transglutaminase (tTg*) : 5 Units (0-20)
    Gliadin IgG : 17 Units (0-20)
    Gliadin IgA : 32 Units (0-15) *

    Result Interpretations

    The tTg IgA is negative.
    The Gliadin IgG is negative
    The Gliadin IgA is strongly positive.

    * tTg has been identified as the epitope againt which endomysial
    antibodies are directed.

    ------------snip-----------------------

    The doctor has said that these results are inconclusive and wants me
    to wait another three months and take the test again.

    Can anyone please shed some light on these results. I thought that
    Gliadin IGA antibodies meant that my body didn't like having gluten
    fed to it???

    Could this be causing my symptoms?

    I am trying to establish whether I should try a GF diet for a week or
    two. It seems that when I try and restrict my diet , I get some very
    unfortunate side effects. I get very ‘fragile', depressed e.t.c – its
    kind of scary.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

  2. [email hidden] (Softeng) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi there everyone, I am hoping I can get some help.

    I have recently been tested for coeliac disease by my doctor after
    several years of ill-effects after eating, mostly related to
    drowsiness.

    My results are now back and I wont be in to see my doctor for another
    three weeks so I was hoping I could get a general feel for what the
    results might mean.

    They are as follows.

    ------------snip-----------------------

    Tissue Transglutaminase (tTg*) : 5 Units (0-20)
    Gliadin IgG : 17 Units (0-20)
    Gliadin IgA : 32 Units (0-15) *

    Result Interpretations

    The tTg IgA is negative.
    The Gliadin IgG is negative
    The Gliadin IgA is strongly positive.

    * tTg has been identified as the epitope againt which endomysial
    antibodies are directed.

    ------------snip-----------------------

    The doctor has said that these results are inconclusive and wants me
    to wait another three months and take the test again.

    Can anyone please shed some light on these results. I thought that
    Gliadin IGA antibodies meant that my body didn't like having gluten
    fed to it???

    Could this be causing my symptoms?

    I am trying to establish whether I should try a GF diet for a week or
    two. It seems that when I try and restrict my diet , I get some very
    unfortunate side effects. I get very ?fragile', depressed e.t.c ? its
    kind of scary.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    If you have been on a high-grain diet, chances are you are depleted of
    some important vitamins. I would suggest you start on a good B vitamin
    complex stress formula. I would also suggest some cod liver oil
    capsules. Take these regularly for a few weeks before trying to
    restrict your diet. Depletion of b vitamins with will cause you to
    feel anxious and fragile, depressed etc. Correct the imbalance and you
    will see that your focus and mental strength will return. then try the
    gf diet. Let me know if you try this and how it works for you.

    Good luck,

    TC

  3. "Softeng" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi there everyone, I am hoping I can get some help.

    I have recently been tested for coeliac disease by my doctor after
    several years of ill-effects after eating, mostly related to
    drowsiness.

    Female? Are you short, thin, white and of Irish descent?
    Have you had your bone density checked? Celiac
    sufferers often develop osteoporosis.
    Celiac result in numerous vitamin deficiencies
    such as all the soluble nutrients like vitamins K, D, E, A and
    the water soluble nutrients such vitamins B-12 , B-6
    folic acid, calcium, and magnesium. Celiac sufferers also
    often have a secondary lactase deficiency...
    translation to peasant speak.....celiac sufferers
    have problems with the digestion milk sugar.

    further comments below

    Quoted message said:


    My results are now back and I wont be in to see my doctor for another
    three weeks so I was hoping I could get a general feel for what the
    results might mean.

    They are as follows.

    ------------snip-----------------------

    Tissue Transglutaminase (tTg*) : 5 Units (0-20)
    Gliadin IgG : 17 Units (0-20)
    Gliadin IgA : 32 Units (0-15) *

    It is out of range. Perhaps Celiac or perhaps
    something like Crohn's disease as 15% of Crohn's
    patients have elevated antigliadin antibodies.

    Quoted message said:


    Result Interpretations

    The tTg IgA is negative.
    The Gliadin IgG is negative
    The Gliadin IgA is strongly positive.

    * tTg has been identified as the epitope against which endomysial
    antibodies are directed.

    epitope is as the part of the antigen that binds
    to the active part of the immunoglobin.

    Quoted message said:


    ------------snip-----------------------

    The doctor has said that these results are inconclusive and wants me
    to wait another three months and take the test again.

    Can anyone please shed some light on these results. I thought that
    Gliadin IGA antibodies meant that my body didn't like having gluten
    fed to it???

    Could this be causing my symptoms?

    Quoted message said:


    I am trying to establish whether I should try a GF diet for a week or
    two. It seems that when I try and restrict my diet , I get some very
    unfortunate side effects. I get very 'fragile', depressed e.t.c - its
    kind of scary.

    You should be using vitamin/nutrient supplements if you
    are celiac victim. If you need to eliminate gluten, you'll
    likely need to avoid gluten as a poison even tiny amounts.
    Processed foods like tater tots, frozen foods,
    many canned foods, and frozen foods
    can have amounts of gluten. Gluten comes primarily from
    wheat, barley, oats, and rye. You'll need to
    avoid hydrolyzed vegetable protein
    as it often contains gluten.

    Depending on the degree of damage it can
    take many months even several years to
    reach maximal recovery which may not be complete.
    Some patients don't respond
    to the removal of gluten and require prednisone.
    Apparently as the result of a superimposed
    autoimmune reactions that is attacking the
    intestinal epithelial cells.

    The damage is sneaky. People who go off of their
    wheat free diets often don't get symptoms until
    weeks later. The damage accumulates and can
    even lead to cancer. IMO the cancer is largely
    preventable with supplemental vitamins
    like folic acid and with a gluten free diet. It is quite possible to
    have a great diet without gluten. Processed foods
    and eating out will be pretty dangerous.
    Some have suggested low gluten diets which contain
    2.5 g/day of gluten but that isn't much and
    if any slips in turn some unseen source......well
    I think one better go all on the road of gluten
    elimination. My books are not current on the current
    standard of practice, so ask your Doctor.
    You would do well to get some recent
    medical literature on whatever the diagnosis is.

    Apparently the physicians per the textbook
    are reluctant to suggest going on gluten free
    diets as patient are often too lazy or
    too bull headed to change their diets or/and
    the physicians can not be bothered advising
    patients :-(

    Not a Doctor
    Bill

    Quoted message said:

    Any help would be much appreciated.

  4. On 12 Oct 2004 07:15:56 -0700, [email hidden] (tcomeau) posted:

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Softeng) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi there everyone, I am hoping I can get some help.

    I have recently been tested for coeliac disease by my doctor after
    several years of ill-effects after eating, mostly related to
    drowsiness.

    My results are now back and I wont be in to see my doctor for another
    three weeks so I was hoping I could get a general feel for what the
    results might mean.

    They are as follows.

    ------------snip-----------------------

    Tissue Transglutaminase (tTg*) : 5 Units (0-20)
    Gliadin IgG : 17 Units (0-20)
    Gliadin IgA : 32 Units (0-15) *

    Result Interpretations

    The tTg IgA is negative.
    The Gliadin IgG is negative
    The Gliadin IgA is strongly positive.

    * tTg has been identified as the epitope againt which endomysial
    antibodies are directed.

    ------------snip-----------------------

    The doctor has said that these results are inconclusive and wants me
    to wait another three months and take the test again.

    Can anyone please shed some light on these results. I thought that
    Gliadin IGA antibodies meant that my body didn't like having gluten
    fed to it???

    Could this be causing my symptoms?

    I am trying to establish whether I should try a GF diet for a week or
    two. It seems that when I try and restrict my diet , I get some very
    unfortunate side effects. I get very ?fragile', depressed e.t.c ? its
    kind of scary.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    If you have been on a high-grain diet, chances are you are depleted of
    some important vitamins. I would suggest you start on a good B vitamin
    complex stress formula. I would also suggest some cod liver oil
    capsules. Take these regularly for a few weeks before trying to
    restrict your diet. Depletion of b vitamins with will cause you to
    feel anxious and fragile, depressed etc. Correct the imbalance and you
    will see that your focus and mental strength will return. then try the
    gf diet. Let me know if you try this and how it works for you.

    Good luck,

    TC

    There are plenty of B vitamins in whole grains!
    Cod liver oil is high in Vit A, isn't it? Fat soluble?

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