Glaxo-Smith Kline agrees that Atkins was right

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for those that missed it atkins had *half* the weight loss AND half the insulin loss that that of
the best diet.++The study is funded by university and government sources only AFAIK:
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"R&D chairman Tachi Yamada also mentioned a diabetes drug called SGL2 that promotes the elimination
of glucose through the urine, thus lowering the blood sugar.

He said the product was "a chemical Atkins diet" that could also have an effect upon obesity as it
lowers insulin and glucose in the same way as the carbohydrate-reduced diet, regardless of the
amount of sugar and carbohydrates you eat."

Read that again. The *chairman* of R & D for GMK, one of the largest (if not THE largest)
pharmaceutical companies in the world announced a *pill* that lowers insulin and glucose in the
blood and calls it "a chemical Atkins diet".

Obviously he understands that:

1) Low carb diet is a good thing health wise
2) Low carb diet effectively reduces blood glucose levels
3) Low carb diet effectively reduces insulin levels
4) Low carb diet prevents diabetes
5) Low carb diet prevents obesity
6) sugar and refined carbs are unhealthy
7) sugar and refined carbs cause high levels of glucose
8) sugar and refined carbs cause high levels of insulin
9) sugar and refined carbs cause obesity
10) sugar and refined carbs cause diabetes

Without this understanding the "chemical Atkins diet" would be useless for a pharmaceutical company
to pursue, wouldn't it. If any of these points were untrue, it would sound like a *fad* pill. He and
his company would come across as quacks, like Dr Atkins is supposed to be, right? They are basing
this drug on a supposedly dangerous, unscientific and un-proven bit of quackery, according to you
guys, right?

Your one piddly ass little study that you quote repeatedly was done by researchers with their own
anti-Atkins agenda. You'll have to find something else to quote.

TC

tcomeau said:

yo! <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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for those that missed it atkins had *half* the weight loss AND half the insulin loss that that of
the best diet.++The study is funded by university and government sources only AFAIK:
jsonline.com183836.aspOpen ↗

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"R&D chairman Tachi Yamada also mentioned a diabetes drug called SGL2 that promotes the
elimination of glucose through the urine, thus lowering the blood sugar.

He said the product was "a chemical Atkins diet" that could also have an effect upon obesity as it
lowers insulin and glucose in the same way as the carbohydrate-reduced diet, regardless of the
amount of sugar and carbohydrates you eat."

I suspect that he was simplifying things for the masses and that you are reading way more into his
statement than was intended.

--
jmk in NC

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for those that missed it atkins had *half* the weight loss AND half the

insulin loss that that of the best diet.++The study is funded by university and government sources
only AFAIK: jsonline.com183836.aspOpen ↗

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"R&D chairman Tachi Yamada also mentioned a diabetes drug called SGL2 that promotes the
elimination of glucose through the urine, thus lowering the blood sugar.

He said the product was "a chemical Atkins diet" that could also have an effect upon obesity as it
lowers insulin and glucose in the same way as the carbohydrate-reduced diet, regardless of the
amount of sugar and carbohydrates you eat."

Read that again. The *chairman* of R & D for GMK, one of the largest (if not THE largest)
pharmaceutical companies in the world announced a *pill* that lowers insulin and glucose in the
blood and calls it "a chemical Atkins diet".

Yeah, like when I want to get good unbiased information, I'll go to a corporation exec who is
announcing a new product based on a current craze. It's brilliant marketing and spurious science.
I'm LOL at you, TC.

Quoted message said:

Obviously he understands that:

1) Low carb diet is a good thing health wise
2) Low carb diet effectively reduces blood glucose levels
3) Low carb diet effectively reduces insulin levels
4) Low carb diet prevents diabetes
5) Low carb diet prevents obesity
6) sugar and refined carbs are unhealthy
7) sugar and refined carbs cause high levels of glucose
8) sugar and refined carbs cause high levels of insulin
9) sugar and refined carbs cause obesity
10) sugar and refined carbs cause diabetes

Wow! Let's add 11 and 12.

11) He understands that the person on the street has heard of Atkins.
12) He wants to build on this name recognition.

Quoted message said:

Without this understanding the "chemical Atkins diet" would be useless for a pharmaceutical
company to pursue, wouldn't it. If any of these points were untrue, it would sound like a *fad*
pill. He and his company would come across as quacks, like Dr Atkins is supposed to be, right?
They are basing this drug on a supposedly dangerous, unscientific and un-proven bit of quackery,
according to you guys, right?

Your one piddly ass little study that you quote repeatedly was done by researchers with their own
anti-Atkins agenda. You'll have to find something else to quote.

TC

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for those that missed it atkins had *half* the weight loss AND half the

insulin loss that that of the best diet.++The study is funded by university and government sources
only AFAIK: jsonline.com183836.aspOpen ↗

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"R&D chairman Tachi Yamada also mentioned a diabetes drug called SGL2 that promotes the
elimination of glucose through the urine, thus lowering the blood sugar.

He said the product was "a chemical Atkins diet" that could also have an effect upon obesity as
it lowers insulin and glucose in the same way as the carbohydrate-reduced diet, regardless of
the amount of sugar and carbohydrates you eat."

Read that again. The *chairman* of R & D for GMK, one of the largest (if not THE largest)
pharmaceutical companies in the world announced a *pill* that lowers insulin and glucose in the
blood and calls it "a chemical Atkins diet".

Yeah, like when I want to get good unbiased information, I'll go to a corporation exec who is
announcing a new product based on a current craze. It's brilliant marketing and spurious science.
I'm LOL at you, TC.

Quoted message said:

Obviously he understands that:

1) Low carb diet is a good thing health wise
2) Low carb diet effectively reduces blood glucose levels
3) Low carb diet effectively reduces insulin levels
4) Low carb diet prevents diabetes
5) Low carb diet prevents obesity
6) sugar and refined carbs are unhealthy
7) sugar and refined carbs cause high levels of glucose
8) sugar and refined carbs cause high levels of insulin
9) sugar and refined carbs cause obesity
10) sugar and refined carbs cause diabetes

Wow! Let's add 11 and 12.

11) He understands that the person on the street has heard of Atkins.
12) He wants to build on this name recognition.

Quoted message said:

Without this understanding the "chemical Atkins diet" would be useless for a pharmaceutical
company to pursue, wouldn't it. If any of these points were untrue, it would sound like a *fad*
pill. He and his company would come across as quacks, like Dr Atkins is supposed to be, right?
They are basing this drug on a supposedly dangerous, unscientific and un-proven bit of quackery,
according to you guys, right?

Your one piddly ass little study that you quote repeatedly was done by researchers with their
own anti-Atkins agenda. You'll have to find something else to quote.

TC

I'm chuckling a bit myself. ;-)

TC