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  1. All,

    My organization is considering purchasing an automatic
    external defibrillator. Here is my question:

    Given 800 attendees on site, once-a-week for 1.5 hrs, can
    someone calculate the likelihood that someone will suffer a
    cardiac arrest (on site) during the next 1, 3 or 5 years? I
    would assume that my population has the same baseline risk
    as any generalized population in the US.

    If time-of-day is a weighting factor, then these attendees
    will be on site between 9AM and 12PM.

    If you can cite a reference, and provide the answer as a
    function (so I could recalculate liklihood after changing
    attendees and time on site), please post.

    Thank you in advance,

    Chris

  2. cc'd by email

    M100C said:

    All,

    My organization is considering purchasing an automatic
    external defibrillator. Here is my question:

    Given 800 attendees on site, once-a-week for 1.5 hrs, can
    someone calculate the likelihood that someone will suffer
    a cardiac arrest (on site) during the next 1, 3 or 5
    years? I would assume that my population has the same
    baseline risk as any generalized population in the US.

    Obviously an incorrect assumption - I would assume that
    your organization is primarily adult. Age and gender are
    critical factors.

    Also, average age is only ONE consideration, an organization
    with an average age of 40 could all be 40, or could range
    from 20 to 90

    Quoted message said:


    If time-of-day is a weighting factor, then these attendees
    will be on site between 9AM and 12PM.

    Possibly TOD is a factor, but no reliable stats exist
    on tis yet

    Quoted message said:


    If you can cite a reference, and provide the answer as a
    function (so I could recalculate liklihood after changing
    attendees and time on site), please post.

    WHERE are you having this convention? - at Big Meadows Lodge
    on top of a mountain in Virginia. or at the Baltimore
    Convention Center, where you are three blocks from the R
    Adams Crowly Shock-Trauma center?

    Likewise, have you checked to see if the facilities you are
    using already have one - telling bidders that having a unit
    counts points in evaluating convention sites will have a
    salutatory effect.

    What has past experience been?

    and, finally, what is your total budget? is the cost really
    material to your organization, or the peace of mind more
    important.

    Quoted message said:

    Thank you in advance,

    Chris

    --
    "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
    history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
    observing from the present" Glen Cook

  3. Ted Rosenberg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    cc'd by email

    M100C said:

    All,

    My organization is considering purchasing an automatic
    external defibrillator. Here is my question:

    Given 800 attendees on site, once-a-week for 1.5 hrs,
    can someone calculate the likelihood that someone will
    suffer a cardiac arrest (on site) during the next 1, 3
    or 5 years? I would assume that my population has the
    same baseline risk as any generalized population in
    the US.

    Okay... don't have any activities on a Monday morning. Serve
    red wine and [censored] mushrooms and eat dessert first, and
    make everybody laugh. And you will not have anyone suffer
    cardiac arrest.

  4. Ted: re avg age - very good point. 3/4's of CHD occur at ages over
    65. Another factor - the socio-economic level of attendees
    - the higher, the lower the incidence of CHD.

    Ted Rosenberg <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    cc'd by email

    M100C said:

    All,

    My organization is considering purchasing an automatic
    external defibrillator. Here is my question:

    Given 800 attendees on site, once-a-week for 1.5 hrs,
    can someone calculate the likelihood that someone will
    suffer a cardiac arrest (on site) during the next 1, 3
    or 5 years? I would assume that my population has the
    same baseline risk as any generalized population in
    the US.

    Obviously an incorrect assumption - I would assume that
    your organization is primarily adult. Age and gender are
    critical factors.

    Also, average age is only ONE consideration, an
    organization with an average age of 40 could all be 40, or
    could range from 20 to 90

    Quoted message said:


    If time-of-day is a weighting factor, then these
    attendees will be on site between 9AM and 12PM.

    Possibly TOD is a factor, but no reliable stats exist
    on tis yet

    Quoted message said:


    If you can cite a reference, and provide the answer as a
    function (so I could recalculate liklihood after
    changing attendees and time on site), please post.

    WHERE are you having this convention? - at Big Meadows
    Lodge on top of a mountain in Virginia. or at the
    Baltimore Convention Center, where you are three blocks
    from the R Adams Crowly Shock-Trauma center?

    Likewise, have you checked to see if the facilities you
    are using already have one - telling bidders that having a
    unit counts points in evaluating convention sites will
    have a salutatory effect.

    What has past experience been?

    and, finally, what is your total budget? is the cost
    really material to your organization, or the peace of mind
    more important.

    Quoted message said:

    Thank you in advance,

    Chris

  5. There is a mystic belief in Gauss curves and
    population cohorts.

    In fact, general populations are usually like inverse Perl
    curves, and specific populations (such as members of an
    organization) tend to be Poisson curves.

    Brad Sheppard said:

    Ted: re avg age - very good point. 3/4's of CHD occur at
    ages over
    65. Another factor - the socio-economic level of
    attendees - the higher, the lower the incidence of
    CHD.

    Ted Rosenberg <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    cc'd by email

    M100C said:

    All,

    My organization is considering purchasing an automatic
    external defibrillator. Here is my question:

    Given 800 attendees on site, once-a-week for 1.5 hrs, can
    someone calculate the likelihood that someone will suffer
    a cardiac arrest (on site) during the next 1, 3 or 5
    years? I would assume that my population has the same
    baseline risk as any generalized population in the US.

    Obviously an incorrect assumption - I would assume that
    your organization is primarily adult. Age and gender are
    critical factors.

    Also, average age is only ONE consideration, an
    organization with an average age of 40 could all be 40, or
    could range from 20 to 90

    Quoted message said:

    If time-of-day is a weighting factor, then these
    attendees will be on site between 9AM and 12PM.

    Possibly TOD is a factor, but no reliable stats exist
    on tis yet

    Quoted message said:

    If you can cite a reference, and provide the answer as a
    function (so I could recalculate liklihood after changing
    attendees and time on site), please post.

    WHERE are you having this convention? - at Big Meadows
    Lodge on top of a mountain in Virginia. or at the
    Baltimore Convention Center, where you are three blocks
    from the R Adams Crowly Shock-Trauma center?

    Likewise, have you checked to see if the facilities you
    are using already have one - telling bidders that having a
    unit counts points in evaluating convention sites will
    have a salutatory effect.

    What has past experience been?

    and, finally, what is your total budget? is the cost
    really material to your organization, or the peace of mind
    more important.

    Quoted message said:

    Thank you in advance,

    Chris

    --
    "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
    history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
    observing from the present" Glen Cook

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