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  1. Hi all,

    I'm having a hard time sleaping fine tweaking my bike, I just can't
    seem to get it perfect.

    I'm using a Veloce compact set 10sp(50/34 + 12-25) and being the good
    boy I am I calculated the gear ratios to find out which gears are
    duplicate.

    With the chain on the 34 I can go up to about the 6th cog before the
    chain starts rubbing the front derailleur. (34+16) No problem I
    figured because I can shift to the 50 and the third cog ( 50 + 21 )
    which is somewhat higher in ratio. This all makes sense to me because
    the small chainwheel small cog combinations are avoided as are the
    large-large ones.

    However: the (50-21) combination does rub against the derailleur. When
    I try to adjust it so I can get one full range of gear ratios the
    (50+12) largest gear rubs. It seems like I need to make a choice.

    When fiddling with the derailleur another question popped my mind. The
    ergoshifter has a thumb button (one click, chain falls to the 34) and
    a lever (3 clicks for a shift). So a shifting 'phase' seems to be
    three lever clicks per 1 tumb click. I set up the outer limit screw so
    that I can do 3 clicks, it shifts smoothly but with the problem
    mentioned above. When I loosen the screw I can make a fourth click
    which solves the rubbing on the 50/12 gear but I also need to "thumb
    click" twice to make the chain drop.

    What exactly am I suppose to do with this ? The campy manual doesn't
    mention how the ergo levers should behave to shift. They either focus
    on the derailleur alone (which I followed nicely) or the levers alone,
    not the whole thing.
    Do I need to accept that some of the non-duplicate gears rub also ? Or
    is it because the 34/16 to 50/21 is a too close shift and I immediatly
    need go to 50/19 ?

    Please help me out here, I'm in need for some insight.

    For reference : the gear ratio's.

    5.7 8.4
    5.3 7.8
    4.9 7.2
    4.6 6.7
    4.3 6.3
    4.0 5.9
    3.6 5.3
    3.3 4.8
    3.0 4.4
    2.7 4.0

  2. Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I'm having a hard time sleaping fine tweaking my bike, I just can't
    seem to get it perfect.

    I'm using a Veloce compact set 10sp(50/34 + 12-25) and being the good
    boy I am I calculated the gear ratios to find out which gears are
    duplicate.

    With the chain on the 34 I can go up to about the 6th cog before the
    chain starts rubbing the front derailleur. (34+16) No problem I
    figured because I can shift to the 50 and the third cog ( 50 + 21 )
    which is somewhat higher in ratio. This all makes sense to me because
    the small chainwheel small cog combinations are avoided as are the
    large-large ones.

    However: the (50-21) combination does rub against the derailleur. When
    I try to adjust it so I can get one full range of gear ratios the
    (50+12) largest gear rubs. It seems like I need to make a choice.

    When fiddling with the derailleur another question popped my mind. The
    ergoshifter has a thumb button (one click, chain falls to the 34) and
    a lever (3 clicks for a shift). So a shifting 'phase' seems to be
    three lever clicks per 1 tumb click. I set up the outer limit screw so
    that I can do 3 clicks, it shifts smoothly but with the problem
    mentioned above. When I loosen the screw I can make a fourth click
    which solves the rubbing on the 50/12 gear but I also need to "thumb
    click" twice to make the chain drop.

    What exactly am I suppose to do with this ? The campy manual doesn't
    mention how the ergo levers should behave to shift. They either focus
    on the derailleur alone (which I followed nicely) or the levers alone,
    not the whole thing.
    Do I need to accept that some of the non-duplicate gears rub also ? Or
    is it because the 34/16 to 50/21 is a too close shift and I immediatly
    need go to 50/19 ?

    Please help me out here, I'm in need for some insight.

    For 2007 Veloce, that's how it is. Dumbed down the left lever, with
    way less adjustability.

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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I'm having a hard time sleaping fine tweaking my bike, I just can't
    seem to get it perfect.

    I'm using a Veloce compact set 10sp(50/34 + 12-25) and being the good
    boy I am I calculated the gear ratios to find out which gears are
    duplicate.

    With the chain on the 34 I can go up to about the 6th cog before the
    chain starts rubbing the front derailleur. (34+16) No problem I
    figured because I can shift to the 50 and the third cog ( 50 + 21 )
    which is somewhat higher in ratio. This all makes sense to me because
    the small chainwheel small cog combinations are avoided as are the
    large-large ones.

    However: the (50-21) combination does rub against the derailleur. When
    I try to adjust it so I can get one full range of gear ratios the
    (50+12) largest gear rubs. It seems like I need to make a choice.

    When fiddling with the derailleur another question popped my mind. The
    ergoshifter has a thumb button (one click, chain falls to the 34) and
    a lever (3 clicks for a shift). So a shifting 'phase' seems to be
    three lever clicks per 1 tumb click. I set up the outer limit screw so
    that I can do 3 clicks, it shifts smoothly but with the problem
    mentioned above. When I loosen the screw I can make a fourth click
    which solves the rubbing on the 50/12 gear but I also need to "thumb
    click" twice to make the chain drop.

    What exactly am I suppose to do with this ? The campy manual doesn't
    mention how the ergo levers should behave to shift. They either focus
    on the derailleur alone (which I followed nicely) or the levers alone,
    not the whole thing.
    Do I need to accept that some of the non-duplicate gears rub also ? Or
    is it because the 34/16 to 50/21 is a too close shift and I immediatly
    need go to 50/19 ?

    Please help me out here, I'm in need for some insight.

    For reference : the gear ratio's.

    5.7 8.4
    5.3 7.8
    4.9 7.2
    4.6 6.7
    4.3 6.3
    4.0 5.9
    3.6 5.3
    3.3 4.8
    3.0 4.4
    2.7 4.0

    Given Peter's answer, would you consider putting a down tube
    shifter on the left to shift the front derailleur? Just like LANCE!

    --
    Michael Press

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