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  1. "Zerubbabel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Ninure Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    news:[email hidden].

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    covad.net...

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    HOMOSEXUALITY & THE CHURCH

    The most beautiful word in the Gospel of Jesus Christ is "whosoever" All
    of God's promises are intended for every human. This doesnot include gay


    men

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    or lesbians. How tragic it is that the Christian Church has excluded and
    persecuted people who are homosexual! We are all created with powerful
    needs for personal relationships. Our quality of life depends upon the
    love we share with others whether family or friends, partners or peers.
    Yet, lesbians and gay men facing hostile attitudes in society often are
    denied access to healthy relationships. Jesus Christ calls us to find
    ultimate meaning in life through a personal relationship with our


    Creator.

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    This important spiritual union can bring healing and strength to all of
    our human relationships.

    Not a Sin, Not a Sickness

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    NAS 1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not
    inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor
    idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves,


    nor

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    the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit


    the

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    kingdom of God.

    Two things about this list.
    1) Homosexuality is not listed first nor is it emphasized as the worst of
    sins.
    2) Homosexuals will be excluded from the Kingdom of God.

    The length of your post suggests that you are in fact, aware that the
    Scriptures condemn homosexuality. You spent much time trying to refute


    and

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    re-interpret what the text clearly condemn. And you have failed to point
    out where the Scriptures condone and encourage homosexuality. Of course,
    you could not do this because such Scriptures do not exist. Instead, you
    are forced to try to obfuscate and confuse. Where are the homosexual
    marriages that the Scripture mentions? Where are the lesbian lovers among
    Jesus disciples? If God has blessed such, He would surely not have failed
    to clearly inform us of that fact.

    One thing is special about homosexuality. It is a punishment from God


    given

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    to those who reject the clear revelation He has given. Is there any


    wonder

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    that homosexuality is rampant in a nation that has had so much knowledge


    of

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    the Gospel, but has rejected it and embraced evolution and hedonism. God
    has revealed His Way, and the people have turned back to Egypt and pursued
    sin.

    For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and
    unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because
    that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it
    evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible
    attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen,
    being understood through what has been made, so that they are without
    excuse.
    For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give
    thanks; but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish
    heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and


    exchanged

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    the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible
    man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
    Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity,


    that

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    their bodies might be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth


    of

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    God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the
    Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
    For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women
    exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
    and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the


    woman

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    and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing
    indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their
    error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God
    gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not


    proper,

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    being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of
    envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters
    of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to
    parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and,
    although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such


    things

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    are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty
    approval to those who practice them. (NAS Romans 1:18-32)

    The Christian Church also excludes fornicators, idolaters, adulterers,
    effeminate (transvestites), thieves, the covetous, drunkards, revilers,


    and

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    swindlers, because God excludes them.

    "Whosoever" is indeed a beautiful word. Paul continues with his excluded
    list with these words: "And such WERE some of you; but you WERE washed,


    but

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    you WERE sanctified, but you WERE justified in the name of the Lord Jesus
    Christ, and in the Spirit of our God." (NAS 1 Corinthians 6:11) God
    welcomes sinners. But He does not leave them as sinners. Stop trying to
    justify your sin and let God justify, sanctify, and wash you clean.

    In love,

    -Zerubbabel

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