Gary Fisher

"qa2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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This is for all the Fisher riders out there. Does anybody feel like they are leaning too far
forward when you ride your bike? Like the seat is too high and you have to reach down for the
bars. It just seems like you have less control when trying to corner. I just got my new frame
(Supercailber) back from the LBS, my original Fisher Montare frame cracked, and I am having
trouble getting used to it again. I was riding a Specialized hardrock as a loner. It was a low
end, no front suspension Specialized but the fact that pisses me off a little is I could ride
faster (I knocked a minute and a half off of my best time on my fav trail) on it then my original
Fisher. I felt more conformable in the saddle, the seat and the handle bars were about the same
height. To get to the point of this rant, has anybody tried one of those threadless stem risers? I
think that may give me a better feel in the saddle then I have at the moment. Any constructive
comments welcomed.

Maybe you don't like the genesis geometry. (long top tube with shorter stem) That's one of the Gary
Fishers selling point.

I prefer a short top tube with my choice of stem. (long or short) That way I can step up my bike for
XC with the longer stem and flat bar or use the shorter stem with a riser bar for trail riding,
drops and jumps. It's also easier to move around the cockpit with a shorter setup.

qa2 said...

Quoted message said:

This is for all the Fisher riders out there. Does anybody feel like they are leaning too far
forward when you ride your bike? Like the seat is too high and you have to reach down for the
bars. It just seems like you have less control when trying to corner. I just got my new frame
(Supercailber) back from the LBS, my original Fisher Montare frame cracked, and I am having
trouble getting used to it again. I was riding a Specialized hardrock as a loner. It was a low
end, no front suspension Specialized but the fact that pisses me off a little is I could ride
faster (I knocked a minute and a half off of my best time on my fav trail) on it then my original
Fisher. I felt more conformable in the saddle, the seat and the handle bars were about the same
height. To get to the point of this rant, has anybody tried one of those threadless stem risers? I
think that may give me a better feel in the saddle then I have at the moment. Any constructive
comments welcomed.

Maybe the GF just isn't the best for your favorite trail. Horses for courses, as they say.

"qa2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This is for all the Fisher riders out there. Does anybody feel like they are leaning too far
forward when you ride your bike? Like the seat is too high and you have to reach down for the
bars. It just seems like you have less control when trying to corner.

Did you measure the replacement Supercaliber frame? Is it the same basic size as the Montare? Sounds
like your frame may be too small.

I'm going to guess that you're responding (negatively) to Fisher's "Genesis" geometry (long top
tube, short stays, short stem). Not everybody likes it, for various reasons.

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I just got my new frame (Supercailber) back from the LBS, my original Fisher Montare frame
cracked, and I am having trouble getting used to it again.

I don't know which Montare you had (they changed a lot over the years); but it probably had a much
shorter top tube. That's likely to be what you're noticing. I had a mid-90's Montare for a while.
Pretty decent frame; but I thought the top tube was too short. I have a long torso, so generally go
for the bikes with long top tubes. Everybody is different.

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I was riding a Specialized hardrock as a loner. It was a low end, no front suspension Specialized
but the fact that pisses me off a little is I could ride faster (I knocked a minute and a half off
of my best time on my fav trail) on it then my original Fisher. I felt more conformable in the
saddle, the seat and the handle bars were about the same height.

Interesting. Maybe you should go back to the shop and buy that Hard Rock, eh?

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To get to the point of this rant, has anybody tried one of those threadless stem risers? I think
that may give me a better feel in the saddle then I have at the moment. Any constructive comments
welcomed.

Again, if you need a stem riser, you're probably riding a frame that's too small. All of my mountain
bikes have the handlebars nearly level with the saddle. Have the shop double-check to make sure you
got the correct frame size for you. I think somebody screwed up.

-=B=-