garmin 305 support (lack of)
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Have you tryed using the motionbaesd websight. Its not too bad. there is also a forum on there witch is usefull.
http://www.motionbased.com/
You can also use the cycling peaks softwere for the edge. I dont ues it but i think it is quite advanced.
http://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com/wko/
Olie
http://www.motionbased.com/
You can also use the cycling peaks softwere for the edge. I dont ues it but i think it is quite advanced.
http://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com/wko/
Olie
Olie said:
motionbased is owned by garmin, so it is not a surprise that the free version of MB is worthless for graphing, however the maps are a little better than the garmin TC.
you would think for the price they charge for this ****, they (garmin) could provide some maps and graph tools of value...........without having to put up more $ for annual subcriptions. buy a q-rotor instead of the 305, $ better spent i think.
it's like buying a BMW and then looking in the trunk to find 13" old black spare wheel!!!
blkhotrod said:
If you have a mac, the 35$ program Ascent is way beyond Garmin TC or motionbased.com. Worth switching if you use a PC !!!
check it out:
Ascent software
Try using SportsTracks. I've been using this for about 13 months & find it a million times better than MotionBased and Garmins own effort
http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/index.html
http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/index.html
sports tracks doesnt have cadence on it, just like motionbased. when are these cheapstakes from garmin going to provide something worthwhile to the people who buy their junk 305's?Felt_Rider said:
if your deciding about this computer, i would spend $ on q-rotors or wheels instead of the 305.........are you listening stupid garmin nerds?
yes i am glad for all of those who read this thread. if you look at the garmin advertizing for the 305 and it's deceptive descriptions of the download data capabilities you think your getting something worthwhile.........while in truth you are getting something equal to the atari 64 computer in 1981.Felt_Rider said:I'm listening
Aren't you glad you have free choice not to buy the 305?
This is the same frustration I felt with their first auto GPS systems, which I've been using since 2000. The newer models show VAST improvement, so it may not be long before they get serious about cycling GPS (still have a few issues, like customizing default road/highway speeds).blkhotrod said:
Why there is no map on the 305 or directions I don't know. On those loooong rides (like charity rides) people go off-course all the time, and training rides could be oh-so more enjoyable with the ability to pre-program a route or ride off main corridors without worrying about getting lost or caught on a cul-de-sac. If they combined a Zumo with an eTrex Legend Cx and simply added the cadence and HRM hardware, and added the cycling software, and could keep the price at (or below) $350 US (which they're dropping to anyway) they would have the market. Who would buy anything else, even a $60 HRM and $30 cycling computer without really considering the Garmin?
After my experience with the evolution of the StreetPilot I expect good things from Garmin, but for obvious reasons I'm cautious.
Ouch... I made the decision not to buy the 305 because I was afraid of that. Like I said, I'm watching for the same kind of jump in quality that the StreetPilot made, but even then I'll be VERY careful. I've been in your shoes many times and know that the bleeding edge of technology is frustrating and expensive! Best of luck, however, finding some value in this model.blkhotrod said:
You don't need to pay for the motionbased setup to get good info. You can't zoom into your graphs, and you can only see the last 10 uploads with out the 7 bucks a month. You can upload to google earth, see a ton of stats and the base software does have some decent info as well. It is a great unit that offers the serious athlete some benefit over other units. I've used a poloar 720 and now the garmin and they are both great.Mike Jacobs said:
yes i especially like the graphs where the grade of the ride was between -5 and +10% and the graph scales it between -70 and +70%........or the cadence graphes where they scale it between 0 and 200, when you've been at 85-100 the whole ride except for a stop at a light. and of course both the garmin training center and motionbased have such great print output options. Alt-print screen-copy to word-crop 3-5 times-barf.azdroptop said:
only 7 bucks per month for motionbased standard......$84/year for junk, but you get to keep all your rides in the data base. great! instead of 10 junk activites you get unlimited worthless junk. what a deal!
You're absolutely right about how primitive the software is. The only way Garmin is going to improve it is when they get some competition. Garmin is still the only group making a bike specific GPS (as far as I know). There's enough auto GPS manufacturers to provide cometition and drive to improve, the cycling market just hasn't created enough of a push. It would be interesting to hear how many units Garmin has sold.blkhotrod said:
It's ammusing that MotionBased is owned by Garmin because when Garmin changed file formats MotionBased didn't update. So now you can't import files except directly from the GPS receiver.
Cycling Peaks is a great piece of software, but it still has some issues. It sells for $100, which is a rip off, even if you use it for everything (like a full training log). It doesn't have the map feature so you can't use it without TC. It seems to me Cycling Peaks is really meant for a power meter so there are a lot of wasted features when you have an Edge. Although they do use cadence, which is better than MotionBased, it seems like making Cycling Peaks compatible with the Edge was an after thought.
BtonRider said:
Serious competition exists:
For us Mac users, try Ascent software ... it is only $35 and I think it is way better than Motionbased.com or GTC for a Mac person:
Ascent software
Ascent features
For PC, you could explore SportTracks (which I haven't tried myself, as I prefer the Mac platform):
SportTracks software
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