Gallbladder Flush Worked For Me

In article <[email hidden]>,

Anth said:

Sometimes your poo is larger than your anus.

Your anus is far more expandable than your common bile duct. Also, if
you were to stretch your common bile duct that much it would cause
excruciating biliary pain.

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One more question...

Do paid alternative health practitioners actually do these gallstone
flushes as part of their practice, or would that be a little too close
to practicing serious medicine? I know most seem to do "colon flushes",
but that seems more of a recreational activity for the "patient".

In other words, are gallstone flushes pretty much limited to OTC (or
OTInternet) or home=grown remedies?

In article <[email hidden]>,

(David Wright) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Anth said:

Sometimes your poo is larger than your anus.

Your anus is designed to stretch briefly to accomodate this
situation. Your common bile duct is not. It will stretch a
tiny bit, but I gather the pain is excruciating. A marble-
sized object is *not* going to go through, period.

The normal diameter of the common bile duct (CBD) is less than 10 mm. In
cases of chronic common bile duct obstruction, it can gradually stretch
without much pain to around 20-25 mm, but this nearly always accompanied
by jaundice and is nearly always caused by malignancy. Acute CBD
obstruction, as caused by gallstones, is nearly always accompanied by
severe right upper quadrant or epigastric pain.

Also, even if a small gallstone of, say 10 mm in diameter, did manage to
find its way into the CBD, in most cases, it would very likely lodge at
and obstruct the Sphincter of Oddi (a sphicter found where the CBD
enters the duodenum). Indeed, endoscopists often cut this sphincter
during endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography (ERCP) to allow
gallstones in the biliary tree to pass or to be extracted with various
endoscopic instruments. If lots of gallstones find their way into the
CBD, complications can include jaundice, ascending cholangitis (a
life-threatening infection of the biliary tree), or gallstone
pancreatitis (another potentially life-threatening condition).

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|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
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In article said:

Pretty simple really , there is no money to be made by them out of any
natural cures.

Oh, so all those web sites that sell the "flushes" are doing it for
free? I think not.

Quoted message said:

As for gallstones , questions you may have will most likely
be answered somewhere here >> http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/ if you
take the time to check it out.

Curezone. Gotta love it.

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Make up your own mind , like I said , it worked for me and others I
know so I am not interested in arguing with the detractors , their
opinions are of no relevance to me . My doctor certainly knows the
difference between gallstones and some imaginary mixture of oil and
grapefruit juice . Have you ever wondered why the detractors are so
vocal about something that they claim doesn't work ? , if it was so
then why would they even bother to comment ? , to save us all from
what ?

Fraud.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
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"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
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Again, just curious. How would you do a Million Dollar, double blind,
controlled test on what, olive oil & something else? Would you also use
a "placebo"? Seems like all this would be a little overkill just to
find out what the "stones" are actually composed of. But that's just
me.

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Subject: Re: Gallbladder Flush Worked For Me
From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 2/29/2004 11:37 AM Pacific Standard Time
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In article said:

Pretty simple really , there is no money to be made by them out of any
natural cures.

Oh, so all those web sites that sell the "flushes" are doing it for
free? I think not.

Quoted message said:

As for gallstones , questions you may have will most likely
be answered somewhere here >> http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/ if you
take the time to check it out.

Curezone. Gotta love it.

Quoted message said:

Make up your own mind , like I said , it worked for me and others I
know so I am not interested in arguing with the detractors , their
opinions are of no relevance to me . My doctor certainly knows the
difference between gallstones and some imaginary mixture of oil and
grapefruit juice . Have you ever wondered why the detractors are so
vocal about something that they claim doesn't work ? , if it was so
then why would they even bother to comment ? , to save us all from
what ?

Fraud.

But David isn't interested if *fraud* from convertional medicine kills a
volunteering teenager, or the doctor who committed this *fraud* is still on
staff.

He is here to save us from fraud. What a hoot.

Jan

(Jan) said:

But David isn't interested if *fraud* from convertional medicine kills a
volunteering teenager, or the doctor who committed this *fraud* is still on
staff.

He is here to save us from fraud. What a hoot.

Jan isn't interested if *fraud* comes from alternative medicine.

The Cure for ALL Cancers by Hulda Clark.

Aloha,

Rich

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Jan

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The best defense to logic is ignorance

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It may be overkill but the "Scientific world" requires it and even then

they

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would say, in denial, it isn't peer reviewed and backed by many other
studies. This doesn't seem to apply to the Pharm Giants though. Their word
is taken because they would never profit from bent statements. (sarc)

Of course you are wrong. See the expalnations of why that are within this
thread.

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Again, just curious. How would you do a Million Dollar, double blind,
controlled test on what, olive oil & something else? Would you also use
a "placebo"? Seems like all this would be a little overkill just to
find out what the "stones" are actually composed of. But that's just
me.

If you supply the ingredients for the flush and I will do it and post the
results testimonial or rama style.
(I've got bugger all else to do)
Anth

"Mark Probert-February 28, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]>
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A bottle of magnesium crystals (USP grade) comes to about $0.87, one fresh
grapefruit and a cup of good olive oil amount to about $3 total. You will
save that on your days food consumption you won't eat.

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If you supply the ingredients for the flush and I will do it and post the
results testimonial or rama style.
(I've got bugger all else to do)
Anth

"Mark Probert-February 28, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]>
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Ok so what's the procedure? Mix it up and drink it?
I'll get some Epsom salts and oil tomorrow.
Anth

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A bottle of magnesium crystals (USP grade) comes to about $0.87, one fresh
grapefruit and a cup of good olive oil amount to about $3 total. You will
save that on your days food consumption you won't eat.

That would mean I would be practising alt med without a license.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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If you supply the ingredients for the flush and I will do it and post the
results testimonial or rama style.
(I've got bugger all else to do)
Anth

"Mark Probert-February 28, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]>
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Actually quoting :-http://www.drclark.net/pictures/labreportcopy.jpg
The lab reports confirm that the stones are bile tones.
Anth

"Bew" <qw@nonamewhatsover> wrote in message

In article said:

(Jan) said:

But David isn't interested if *fraud* from convertional medicine kills a
volunteering teenager, or the doctor who committed this *fraud* is still on
staff.

He is here to save us from fraud. What a hoot.

Jan isn't interested if *fraud* comes from alternative medicine.

The Cure for ALL Cancers by Hulda Clark.

Ooh! Ooh! Jan's trying to speak for me! Shame on you, Jan.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Check out the website and it is posted as one of the many styles of doing
it. Start on a Friday while at work and finish Saturday morning. Your diet
will be back to normal by Saturday afternoon. It's a piece of cake and you
will probably be impressed.

To blend the flush technique with reality I usually eat a no fat breakfast
cereal before work and some fruit and water at lunch (I think?) then don't
eat the rest of the day and the magnesium salts start at 6 PM if I remember
correctly. You can do it with lemon juice or grapefruit. I think the lemon
is more effective but do not mix it with the olive oil. It goes slimy big
time!. My wife hates the grapefruit mixture and I love it but the magnesium
salt mixture is the opposite for us. I have a hard time with the doses in
the morning and actually couldn't continue one time. Look for the aqua
coloured stones. It may or may not work the first time. I probably got
500-1000 stones out the first time and felt so good I was almost high for
about 3 days.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ok so what's the procedure? Mix it up and drink it?
I'll get some Epsom salts and oil tomorrow.
Anth

"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A bottle of magnesium crystals (USP grade) comes to about $0.87, one

fresh

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grapefruit and a cup of good olive oil amount to about $3 total. You

will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

save that on your days food consumption you won't eat.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Anth said:

Actually quoting :-http://www.drclark.net/pictures/labreportcopy.jpg
The lab reports confirm that the stones are bile tones.

Well, it shows an image of a lab report. I looked at it. I don't
know anything else from that report, like where the stones came from.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Subject: Re: Gallbladder Flush Worked For Me
From: "Anth" [email hidden]
Date: 2/29/2004 1:10 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Ok so what's the procedure? Mix it up and drink it?
I'll get some Epsom salts and oil tomorrow.
Anth

http://www.drclark.net/info/liver.htm

Jan

In article <[email hidden]>,

(David Wright) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Anth said:

Actually quoting :-http://www.drclark.net/pictures/labreportcopy.jpg
The lab reports confirm that the stones are bile tones.

Well, it shows an image of a lab report. I looked at it. I don't
know anything else from that report, like where the stones came from.

Yes, that would be rather important information, wouldn't it? ;-)

--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"

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Subject: Re: Gallbladder Flush Worked For Me
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 2/29/2004 3:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://www.drclark.net/info/liver.htm

Jan

geez Janny

I have some pics of Mars made out of green cheese!!! You should like those
too...

again...they look like pebbles from the local pond...no documentation with the
lab slip..etc etc

you must be one gullible dudedess...

as well as pathetic..and a moron

hawki.....

The point is this :
Nothing to lose by investigating it , and then trying it if you so desire ,
if you decide not to , fine also.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Actually quoting :-http://www.drclark.net/pictures/labreportcopy.jpg
The lab reports confirm that the stones are bile tones.
Anth

"Bew" <qw@nonamewhatsover> wrote in message

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Ok I'm trying it today.
Anth

"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Check out the website and it is posted as one of the many styles of doing
it. Start on a Friday while at work and finish Saturday morning. Your diet
will be back to normal by Saturday afternoon. It's a piece of cake and you
will probably be impressed.

To blend the flush technique with reality I usually eat a no fat breakfast
cereal before work and some fruit and water at lunch (I think?) then don't
eat the rest of the day and the magnesium salts start at 6 PM if I

remember

Quoted message said:

correctly. You can do it with lemon juice or grapefruit. I think the lemon
is more effective but do not mix it with the olive oil. It goes slimy big
time!. My wife hates the grapefruit mixture and I love it but the

magnesium

Quoted message said:

salt mixture is the opposite for us. I have a hard time with the doses in
the morning and actually couldn't continue one time. Look for the aqua
coloured stones. It may or may not work the first time. I probably got
500-1000 stones out the first time and felt so good I was almost high for
about 3 days.

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Ok so what's the procedure? Mix it up and drink it?
I'll get some Epsom salts and oil tomorrow.
Anth

"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A bottle of magnesium crystals (USP grade) comes to about $0.87, one

fresh

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grapefruit and a cup of good olive oil amount to about $3 total. You

will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

save that on your days food consumption you won't eat.