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full body versus split routines

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  1. On Lyle's website in the "Training Secrets" article
    (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/articles/training/secrets.php) he
    states:

    "Training secrets for size and strength gains (for naturals)
    ....

    2. Training a bodypart less than 2X/week will not give you optimal
    gains. An upper/lower split done Mon/Tue/Thu/Fri is close to optimal
    for most. Full body twice a week can work very well. Once every 5th day
    is the least frequently I would ever recommend a natural train. You'll
    get less sore training more frequently and you'll grow better. Save
    once/week bodypart training for pro bodybuilders (read: steroid users)
    and the genetically elite."

    I was wondering, why it is that a natural should train more frequently
    then a steroid user? I know lots of sources suggest more abbreviated
    workouts for a natural and that if you do multiple full body workouts
    in the same week the volume will be lower per workout so you can
    recover faster since you aren't going crazy on volume. But it almost
    seems to be the reverse of what you'd think. That a natural would need
    more time for their body to recover and the steriod user would recover
    faster.

    Thanks.


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    I was wondering, why it is that a natural should train more frequently
    then a steroid user? I know lots of sources suggest more abbreviated
    workouts for a natural and that if you do multiple full body workouts
    in the same week the volume will be lower per workout so you can
    recover faster since you aren't going crazy on volume. But it almost
    seems to be the reverse of what you'd think. That a natural would need
    more time for their body to recover and the steriod user would recover
    faster.

    Thanks.

    Look at the big picture, what happens on a weekly or monthly basis. On the
    one body part a day camp, if they were to add up there monthly sets per body
    part, and the whole body camp were to add up theirs, the numbers should be
    very telling. With more frequent stimuli, there are more windows of
    opportunities for gains.

    That being said, I am toying with earlier termination of sets in my
    workouts. Setting a goal rep range for an exercise. I seem to get more
    quality reps from a 5x5 as opposed to its nearest equivalent, 3 sets of 8.
    As the load goes up, I may stretch it to 8 sets of 3. The total time under
    tension for an exercise works out to be the same, nearly, and the amount of
    force I can generate per rep, or the sum of the force generated with fresh
    reps on every set as opposed to garbage reps at the end of a quality set
    intuitively seems to be more ideal.

    That is far and away from what you were asking, but what time recovery takes
    is a very personal issue. performance based inspection, IMHO is a better
    tool than visual.
    Hell, there is no "this is best." if that were the case, we wouldn't have a
    forum nor would there be shelves and shelves of books and a trainer would
    never be necessary. More frequent sessions, seems to me that getting three
    nickels is much more than 1 dime any way you look at it.

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