Freakin' Hikers

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its not a super huge probelm but it's getting worse...damn the vandemans of the world.

mark

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You are right, I do ride in Germany, although I am not sure what the law is in the state of
Hessen. The biggest problem is that a lot of our bikers are not considerate. I know of one
particular group who runs around like they own the hill yelling for everyone to get out of their
way. So this is from where the problem stems. Most hikers I encounter are courteous as well and
move off the trail when they see me, wave and give an approving nod. I thank them and continue
forward.

Sounds like a good part of your problem is caused by other mountain bikers. Although no one should
condon the hiker's behavior, it will be difficult to convince them otherwise if you have an equally
large percentage of bikers who are behaving badly. I hope you can help the problem before someone on
either side gets hurt, you already know who will lose trail access.

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Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove ".nospam" to reply)

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If so what did you do to combat it?

When I caught the HOH in the act, I told him that I was going to kick his ass. He ran...fast.

JD

I'm with you on this one partner....this is the best action I can think

of.

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I am 5'8" and weigh 205 lbs, and the weight doesn't come from the German beer I do so enjoy. If I
catch this one..he..will be the next obstacle we will be riding around.

I'm not the walking uppercut you are, but I'm sure I can smash the average hiker. 🙂

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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:48:34 -0500, deluxe <[email hidden]> penned:

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Perhaps claymore mines will solve this pesky hiker problem. Anyone have

a

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few they can spare?

How do you design them to be hiker-specific? Perhaps all alt.m-bers can wear little RF ID tags?

They are manually triggered. We need a volunteer.

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They are manually triggered. We need a volunteer.

well...I know how to sit them up off of a trip, so we can withdraw the volunteer offer.

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They are manually triggered. We need a volunteer.

well...I know how to sit them up off of a trip, so we can withdraw the volunteer offer.

We don't want it to trip on a perfectly good mountain biker. Perhaps if the trip wire was set a
little slack so wheels will roll right over?

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Anyone ever had this problem?

Not riding locally. Most of the trails here aren't duel use as they are unshaded and unpleasant to
hike. (I'm in a desert climate.) But other sports, in other ways and other places, yeah. People can
be real [censored].

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- Joel C.

"I hate Clocks, I hate they way they tick They make me nervous, they make me itch. Man there’s a
lott’a things I ain’t done yet."
- Southern Culture on the Skids.

Obstacles are FUN. Don't move them, don't go around them, but attempt to go through/over them. If
you can't, don't move the obstacle, pick up your bike and walk it.

You know, it just might have been some technical rider that popped that limb out there to add a bit
of challenge to the run.

sheeeeeeeeesh

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Anyone ever had this problem? I share my trails with numerous hikers. I am very conseriderate. I
slow to their speed when passing and even apologize when I accidently frighten them. I give
plenty of warning when coming from their rear to know I am there and am all around considerate.
My last ride

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Monday I hit a killer fast downhill section I frequent and at the end of

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trail there was a section of tree limb stratigically placed to make a

biker

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wreck. I almost did and just made it around. I know this is a hiker

because

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last season he/or they placed numerous small limbs on the same section of trail. This did nothing
more than make the trail more technical and bumpy, so this year I guess they decided to break
bones and give concussions with their obstacles.

I dismounted my bike and was actually praying this jerk off was still around the area with all
the adreneline from the run still pumping, and removed the obstacle.

Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it? Thanks...Mike

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Each time, the obstacle would be placed around a blind corner, in the very best place to catch
someone unawares as they came fast down the hill. [censored] me right off it did, but it never got me.

Whacha gonna to if somebody's standing there instead?
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Nope. It's the hikers...death to them!!!

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No [censored]..that makes my problem seem pretty petty.

I think my case was more stupidity than aggression - but the result was the same...
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| Whacha gonna to if somebody's standing there instead?

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The biggest problem is that a lot of our bikers are not considerate. I

know

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of one particular group who runs around like they own the hill yelling for everyone to get out of
their way. So this is from where the problem stems.

Let me guess: MTV reality show rejects with double crown forks? I do not encounter many bikes where
I ride, but whenever I head up to Heidelberg, I can guarantee finding them on the trails coming down
from Konigstuhl. Too bad - it is an otherwise nice downhill ride.

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Most hikers I encounter are courteous as well and move off the trail when they see me, wave and
give an approving nod. I thank them and continue forward.

My experience as well, but do not get me started about those unleashed dogs...

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How do you design them to be hiker-specific? Perhaps all alt.m-bers can wear little RF ID tags?

Hobiecatters have been working on a similar solution - but directed at the jetski problem.

Maybe something can can be adapted....

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"> Let me guess: MTV reality show rejects with double crown forks?

yeah sort of....I like to rank them as too rich Germans who know more about which bike is best and
which clothes are the coolest but havent a clue on riding technic.

I do not

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encounter many bikes where I ride, but whenever I head up to Heidelberg, I can guarantee finding
them on the trails coming down from Konigstuhl. Too bad - it is an otherwise nice downhill ride.

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Most hikers I encounter are courteous as well and move off the trail

when

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they see me, wave and give an approving nod. I thank them and continue forward.

My experience as well, but do not get me started about those unleashed dogs...

Yeah me too!!! Damn does every German own a dog?! Even had one guy who just kept telling me "she is
only playing..she is only playing" and so I returned with "well get her before I decide to play"

I think the leash laws are broken even more than the 1m path law for bikes.

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If so what did you do to combat it?

When I caught the HOH in the act, I told him that I was going to kick his ass. He ran...fast.

JD

I'm with you on this one partner....this is the best action I can think of. I am 5'8" and weigh
205 lbs, and the weight doesn't come from the German beer I do so enjoy. If I catch this
one..he..will be the next obstacle we will be riding around.

Damn, a fireplug! Get that sonofabitch.

JD

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I know of one particular group who runs around like they own the hill yelling for everyone to get
out of their way.

Must've been the same group that was windsurfing in Caberete a few years back...
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"T_Blood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Anyone ever had this problem? I share my trails with numerous hikers. I am very conseriderate. I
slow to their speed when passing and even apologize when I accidently frighten them. I give plenty
of warning when coming from their rear to know I am there and am all around considerate. My last
ride on Monday I hit a killer fast downhill section I frequent and at the end of the trail there
was a section of tree limb stratigically placed to make a biker wreck. I almost did and just made
it around. I know this is a hiker because last season he/or they placed numerous small limbs on
the same section of trail. This did nothing more than make the trail more technical and bumpy, so
this year I guess they decided to break bones and give concussions with their obstacles.

Let's see...

Ride a mountain bike? check. Ride on a trail in the forest? check. Live in Hessen or
Badenwurtenburg? check. Encountered "hiker-tage"? check.

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Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it?

I sometimes incorporate the stuff into a ridable obstacle if it's too much of a pain to move. Throw
a few more bits of debri on, pile some dirt, build a ramp. I've had these things become part of the
normal trail until some new trail sabotager comes along and wipes it out.

How's it looking for a ride this weekend? I Went to Daun in the Vulkan-Eifel region on Sunday. Great
area for riding and you can't beat the weather right now.

nk

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Several people here ride singletrack in Germany anyway, but you have to be EXTRA nice to people
you meet on the trail.

No, we NEVER ride singletrack unless it's in a sanctioned bike park/area. Never, never, never,
never. Of course, if it was once 2+ meters wide and over the last 200 years has grown narrower,
what can I do?

There's a road that I ride from Schreisheim to the WeiseStein that has a new sign stating that the
road narrows to less than 2 meters ahead. It's paved, but not a road and in/near the forest.
Technically I think it's forbidden to ride it - unless I have a gartenplatz there.

Screw it, I'm riding here kettenfetzer-worms.detrainigsgelande.htmOpen ↗ tonight.

nk

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How's it looking for a ride this weekend? I Went to Daun in the Vulkan-Eifel region on Sunday.
Great area for riding and you can't beat the weather right now.

nk

Looking real promising. Got a hold of my riding buddy and he wants to come too. As long as the
weather holds out (and I think it should) Saturday morning it will be.