For the Oly lifters

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For the Oly lifters>

What is this NG's fascination with oily lifters? Why oil up to begin
with?

Wow, what Simmons advocates is the exact opposite of Joe Mills'
philosophy. Mills' method worked, too. He made Bednarski World Champion
in '69, after all. Mills advocated training using more or less nothing
but the two full lifts. Simmons doesn't seem to comprehend that Mills'
answer to any perceived "inbalances" in strength would have been that
this only resulted from improper technique in the lifts to begin with
and that the answer to this was simply technique correction by careful
coaching while drilling in the full lifts. Mills placed next to no value
in assistance excercises.
I'll tell you this, I've met people who were trained by Mills and
knew him intimately, and while I obviously can't speak to what went on
in the past, they had a pretty low view of drug-use. Whatever the
situation was with Bednarski and drugs, I can at the very least
guarantee you it was nowhere near as advanced as what the Soviets were
doing in this area, and I can hardly believe anyone could seriously
dispute this or claim it was not a primary factor in things at the time.
Unless Simmons is seriously going to make a claim that the old
gent from Central Falls was incorporating the science of pharmacology
into his coaching at the same intrinisic level it was going on behind
the Iron Curtain, then any comparisons are worhtless, and he shouldn't
be knocking Mills. In fact, if anything, in light of where the Soviets
were with this stuff, I think it only makes all the more impressive the
achievements of the people, like Bednarski, that Mills trained. Bottom
line is that Mills' methods actually produced a real World Champion,
whereas Simmons is armchair quarterbacking.
To be honest -and leaving the drugs aside- I pretty much lost all
repsect for Simmons when I read his advice that a person attempting a
700 lbs. bench should be wearing a shirt so tight that they cannot lower
a 600 lbs. bar down to their chest. That's not lifting. That's, well...I
don't know...but it ain't lifting as I understand it -as a display of
personal strength. I mean, if you're wearing a shirt that won't even let
you get a 600 lb. bar down to your chest, how much strength is there
going into pressing a 100lbs. more?

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Quoted message said:

Wow, what Simmons advocates is the exact opposite of Joe Mills'
philosophy. Mills' method worked, too. He made Bednarski World Champion
in '69, after all. Mills advocated training using more or less nothing
but the two full lifts.

In '69 there were three lifts.

Also...

http://danjohn.org/bobbed.html

--
Keith