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Foil windshield on Mini Trangia

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  1. An earlier thread on UKW discussed various aspects of windshields and
    materials etc. Having taken some of the information to heartIK have been
    experimenting with a foil windshield for my Mini Trangia.
    I know it has been said many times that boiling speed doesn't matter but I
    have come to a conclusion, certainly with Meths, that it does. My
    reasoning? The faster the boil WITHOUT increasing fuel consumption then
    obviously the less fuel used (carried).
    Now to my point.
    Using my foil windshield I have increased boiling speed and NOT increased
    fuel consumption.
    I constructed a shield which was 10cm high (this almost came to the top of
    the pan but still allowed enough space to attach the pot grab) and
    completely surrounded the stove with an 5cm overlap. To start with I
    punched 5mm diameter holes around 1/8th of the circumference at ground
    level.
    This worked OK in still air but far better in some wind (with the punched
    out holes towards the wind). Taking this one stage further I punched a
    single 25mm hole (at ground level) in the same 1/8th circunference area and
    tried the system again. This time, in a slight breeze the stove's
    performance was better but in a wind the damn thing went like a rocket.

    The above was a prototype. I have now made another version with only the
    single 25mm hole in the circumference but this time almost at one end of
    the foil. By increasing or decreasing the overlap I can open or close the
    'damper' (for those of us old enough to remember 'dampers'😉 and thus control
    the stove. It now roars like a mini-furnace.
    I have also discovered that to get the unit 'fired-up' in still air a puff
    or two from the old lungs seems to start a self perpetuating process of
    increased heat output. (It is possible to hear the meths boil and really
    perform by blowing into the vent)

    All this and still 2 fluid ounces of meths burns for 19 minutes - exactly
    the same time as without a windshield, but in that time I can now boil 2
    full litres of water instead of barely 1 litre.

    I hope I haven't bored members with the above or been preaching to the
    converted. Perhaps what I've laboriously discovered has been long known ---
    but not by me.

    Cheers all,
    John S-Mallory

  2. John Spencer-Mallory said:

    I hope I haven't bored members with the above or been preaching to the
    converted. Perhaps what I've laboriously discovered has been long known ---
    but not by me.

    Aye, the burning question is; what sort of "foil" did you use? Perhaps
    a bit of a redundant question now, the WindPro comes with MSRs famous
    wind shield, but I might still try making my own... if I can bring
    myself to drink some Pepsi ;-P

    SteveO

    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

    NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

  3. I went to ASDA and bought a pack of three 'Foil Roasting Tins' and cut them
    up to use.

    Cheers,
    John S-Mallory

    <SteveO> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    John Spencer-Mallory said:

    I hope I haven't bored members with the above or been preaching to the
    converted. Perhaps what I've laboriously discovered has been long
    known ---
    but not by me.

    Aye, the burning question is; what sort of "foil" did you use? Perhaps
    a bit of a redundant question now, the WindPro comes with MSRs famous
    wind shield, but I might still try making my own... if I can bring
    myself to drink some Pepsi ;-P

    SteveO

    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

    NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

  4. "John Spencer-Mallory" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    An earlier thread on UKW discussed various aspects of windshields and
    materials etc. Having taken some of the information to heartIK have
    been experimenting with a foil windshield for my Mini Trangia.

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    I hope I haven't bored members with the above or been preaching to the
    converted. Perhaps what I've laboriously discovered has been long
    known --- but not by me.

    Cheers all,
    John S-Mallory

    Interesting stuff John. I've recently bought a Mini Trangia but haven't
    used it outdoors yet. I'd be interested to see a picture of your windshield
    and details of material used for the shield.

  5. "Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "John Spencer-Mallory" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    An earlier thread on UKW discussed various aspects of windshields and
    materials etc. Having taken some of the information to heartIK have
    been experimenting with a foil windshield for my Mini Trangia.

    Quoted message said:

    <snipped>


    Interesting stuff John. I've recently bought a Mini Trangia but haven't
    used it outdoors yet. I'd be interested to see a picture of your
    windshield
    and details of material used for the shield.


    Ok Brian.....
    Material used...
    Went o ASDA and purchased a pack of three 'foil roasting tins'. Opened them
    flat and cut 2 x 10cm strips as long as possible. Rolled each section flat
    with a smooth plastic cylinder (old Berol pen) and then re-rolled along
    length using a six-sided pencil to produce a concertina effect across the
    shorter dimension (to gice some additional strength. I then folded about 1
    cm of each of the two pieces together, folded again and formed a joint. Now
    we have a long section of foil. two small paper clips hold the 'loose ends
    together. About 2 cm from end and as nead to 'bottom edge of strip as
    possible punch a 25mm circle.
    That's it.
    Place around mini trangi and adjust length with scissors so that a
    reasonable overlap results and leaving enough to partially close (mask) the
    25mm hole.
    There you have it

    John S-Mallory

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