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  1. Do people think fluoride causes cancer? This lady at the
    supermarket told me that, but I think she was lying

  2. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Do people think fluoride causes cancer? This lady at the
    supermarket told me that, but I think she was lying

    New York -- February 6, 2002 -- Fluoride added to
    public water supplies may be linked to cancer suggests
    two new studies.

    “The likelihood of fluoride acting as a genetic cause
    of cancer requires consideration“, writes Takahashi
    and colleagues in the July 2001 “Journal of
    Epidemiology (1) who found that 23 of 36 cancer sites
    (63.9%) were associated positively with fluoridation status,
    using World Health Organization data and the U.S.
    Fluoridation Census.

    Some studies, e.g., Hoover (1976) and Knox (1985) claim no
    credible fluoridation/cancer association exists. However,
    Takahashi and co-authors found the Hoover/Knox assessments
    flawed, and explain why in their paper.

    The authors report that the National Cancer Institute
    provided epidemiological evidence of a relation between
    cancer incidence and water fluoridation in 1987. These
    findings provoked a 1990 National Toxicology Program (NTP)
    study that determined fluoride could be a cancer-causing
    agent because four, out of 261, male rats developed
    osteosarcoma (a rare bone cancer).

    The NTP study “supplied a detailed description of the
    toxicology of fluoride, not only in terms of osteosarcoma,
    but also lesions in the oral mucosa, thyroid gland, skin and
    uterus...(which) prompted us to re-test the hypothesis of an
    epidemiological association between water fluoridation and
    cancer incidences...“, wrote Takahashi who found
    fluoridation status positively correlates to cancers of the
    oral cavity, pharynx, colon, rectum, hepato-bilary & urinary
    organs and bone cancer in males.

    Such a broad spectrum association has never been observed
    for any particular known carcinogen, but it may be
    reasonable for fluoride, because of its strong
    electronegative nature, the authors explain.

    After ten years of water fluoridation, children aged 7-18
    in Newburgh,
    N.Y., had more cortical bone defects than the non-
    fluoridated control city, Kingston. And more bone cancer
    occurred in young males in fluoridated portions of New
    Jersey. ... these two facts may be connected
    pathophysiologically, Takahashi reports.

    Takahashi urges researchers worldwide to further
    assess fluoride as a genetic cause of cancers...and
    stop the application of fluoride for prevention of
    teeth caries (cavities) if this indeed presents as a
    risk factor for cancer.

    In another study, (2) Ramesh and colleagues propose that
    high fluoride bone content might have been one of the major
    factors causing osteosarcoma, in the Journal of
    Environmental Pathology, Toxicology and Oncology, 2001, Vol.
    20, Issue 3.

    Ramesh, et al, analyzed bone samples of 20 Indian
    osteosarcoma patients. The very high levels of fluoride
    accumulation in the bone samples of (2 Indian osteosarcoma
    patients) in which p53 gene mutation have also been detected
    suggest that possible adverse effects of fluoride on the DNA
    of the osteosarcoma patients, Ramesh and colleagues write.

    Mutations in the p53 genes are the most commonly observed
    genetic alterations in human cancer. Ramesh concludes that
    fluoride probably causes mutations in p53.

    These new findings raise important questions about potential
    harm from water fluoridation, especially when coupled with
    the current recognition that ingesting fluoride does not
    reduce tooth decay but has caused a massive increase in
    disfiguring dental fluorosis, says lawyer Paul Beeber,
    President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation.

    The NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation consists of
    scientists, physicians, dentists, legislators, lawyers,
    environmentalists, university professors, other
    professionals, and concerned citizens who volunteer their
    efforts to inform the public about fluoride's/fluoridation's
    scientifically supported harmful dental, systemic and
    cumulative effects to balance the usually pro-fluoridation
    opinion that's reported by mainstream media.

    (1) ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgi
    eve&db=PubMed&list_ uids=11512573&dopt=Abstract

    (2) ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgi
    eve&db=PubMed&list_ uids=11797833&dopt=Abstract

    New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.
    (NYSCOF) orgsites.comnyscof
    tinyurl.comad9k NYSCOF Fluoride NewsTracker
    fluoridenews.blogspot.comfluoridenews.blogspot.com

    Fluoride Action Network fluoridealert.orgfluoridealert.org

  3. nyscof said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Do people think fluoride causes cancer? This lady at the
    supermarket told me that, but I think she was lying

    New York -- February 6, 2002 -- Fluoride added to public
    water supplies may be linked to cancer suggests two new
    studies.

    “The likelihood of fluoride acting as a genetic
    cause of cancer requires consideration“,

    Hey, Paul--

    I know you're a lawyer and not an oncologist. Please
    try to explain to a stupid dentist pleez how
    fluoride can act as a GENETIC cause of cancer.

    Sincerely, Steve

    writes Takahashi and colleagues in the

    Quoted message said:

    July 2001 “Journal of Epidemiology (1) who found
    that 23 of 36 cancer sites (63.9%) were associated
    positively with fluoridation status, using World Health
    Organization data and the U.S. Fluoridation Census.

    Some studies, e.g., Hoover (1976) and Knox (1985) claim no
    credible fluoridation/cancer association exists. However,
    Takahashi and co-authors found the Hoover/Knox assessments
    flawed, and explain why in their paper.

    The authors report that the National Cancer Institute
    provided epidemiological evidence of a relation between
    cancer incidence and water fluoridation in 1987. These
    findings provoked a 1990 National Toxicology Program (NTP)
    study that determined fluoride could be a cancer-causing
    agent because four, out of 261, male rats developed
    osteosarcoma (a rare bone cancer).

    The NTP study “supplied a detailed description of
    the toxicology of fluoride, not only in terms of
    osteosarcoma, but also lesions in the oral mucosa,
    thyroid gland, skin and uterus...(which) prompted us to
    re-test the hypothesis of an epidemiological association
    between water fluoridation and cancer
    incidences...“, wrote Takahashi who found
    fluoridation status positively correlates to cancers of
    the oral cavity, pharynx, colon, rectum, hepato-bilary &
    urinary organs and bone cancer in males.

    Such a broad spectrum association has never been observed
    for any particular known carcinogen, but it may be
    reasonable for fluoride, because of its strong
    electronegative nature, the authors explain.

    After ten years of water fluoridation, children aged 7-18
    in Newburgh,
    N.Y., had more cortical bone defects than the non-
    fluoridated control city, Kingston. And more bone
    cancer occurred in young males in fluoridated portions
    of New Jersey. ... these two facts may be connected
    pathophysiologically, Takahashi reports.

    Takahashi urges researchers worldwide to further
    assess fluoride as a genetic cause of cancers...and
    stop the application of fluoride for prevention of
    teeth caries (cavities) if this indeed presents as a
    risk factor for cancer.

    In another study, (2) Ramesh and colleagues propose that
    high fluoride bone content might have been one of the
    major factors causing osteosarcoma, in the Journal of
    Environmental Pathology, Toxicology and Oncology, 2001,
    Vol. 20, Issue 3.

    Ramesh, et al, analyzed bone samples of 20 Indian
    osteosarcoma patients. The very high levels of fluoride
    accumulation in the bone samples of (2 Indian osteosarcoma
    patients) in which p53 gene mutation have also been
    detected suggest that possible adverse effects of fluoride
    on the DNA of the osteosarcoma patients, Ramesh and
    colleagues write.

    Mutations in the p53 genes are the most commonly observed
    genetic alterations in human cancer. Ramesh concludes that
    fluoride probably causes mutations in p53.

    These new findings raise important questions about
    potential harm from water fluoridation, especially when
    coupled with the current recognition that ingesting
    fluoride does not reduce tooth decay but has caused a
    massive increase in disfiguring dental fluorosis, says
    lawyer Paul Beeber, President, New York State Coalition
    Opposed to Fluoridation.

    The NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation consists of
    scientists, physicians, dentists, legislators, lawyers,
    environmentalists, university professors, other
    professionals, and concerned citizens who volunteer their
    efforts to inform the public about
    fluoride's/fluoridation's scientifically supported harmful
    dental, systemic and cumulative effects to balance the
    usually pro-fluoridation opinion that's reported by
    mainstream media.

    (1) ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgi
    rieve&db=PubMed&list_ uids=11512573&dopt=Abstract

    (2) ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgi
    rieve&db=PubMed&list_ uids=11797833&dopt=Abstract

    New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.
    (NYSCOF) orgsites.comnyscof
    tinyurl.comad9k NYSCOF Fluoride NewsTracker
    fluoridenews.blogspot.comfluoridenews.blogspot.com

    Fluoride Action Network fluoridealert.orgfluoridealert.org

  4. Quoted message said:

    Do people think fluoride causes cancer? This lady at the
    supermarket told me that, but I think she was lying

    Congratulations. You're right.

  5. Steven Bornfeld <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    nyscof said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<589f38b-
    [email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Do people think fluoride causes cancer? This lady at the
    supermarket told me that, but I think she was lying

    New York -- February 6, 2002 -- Fluoride added to public
    water supplies may be linked to cancer suggests two new
    studies.

    “The likelihood of fluoride acting as a genetic
    cause of cancer requires consideration“,

    Hey, Paul--

    I know you're a lawyer and not an oncologist. Please
    try to explain to a stupid dentist pleez how
    fluoride can act as a GENETIC cause of cancer.

    Sincerely, Steve

    Hey Steve 'Sup

    "From the chemical and biochemical point of view, a key
    finding came in 1981, when John Emsley showed that fluoride
    formed a strong hydrogen bond with the amide function. This
    certainly gives a very plausible explanation as to why this
    'chemically inert' entity fluoride could cause biochemical
    harm. Indeed, interference with the H-bonding poses a threat
    to the very heart of biochemistry where so much of the
    structure and function of proteins and nucleic acids is
    dependent on hydrogen bond making and breaking. This
    potential disruption of H-bonds would explain fluoride's
    inhibition of certain enzymes and possibly its interference
    with DNA repair mechanisms."

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    New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.
    (NYSCOF) orgsites.comnyscof
    tinyurl.comad9k NYSCOF Fluoride NewsTracker
    fluoridenews.blogspot.comfluoridenews.blogspot.com

    Fluoride Action Network fluoridealert.orgfluoridealert.org

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