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Flippin' councils

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  1. In the recent winds, an aluminium poled wire mesh fence came loose on an
    industrial park, so that one pole was waving around horizontally, with
    the end of the pole at face height waving around over a cyclepath. I
    nearly rode straight into this end-on in the dark. On 2nd March this
    was duly reported to the council, who can presumably contact the owners
    of the park to fix it. Today, 4 days later, I got this:-

    ================================================================
    Thank you for your email.

    Your comments have been passed to the Area Officer who will carry out a
    site investigation within the next 10 working days and take any
    appropriate action.

    Your reference number is 124486 should you need to contact us again.

    King Regards

    Carole - Business Support Officer
    Streets and Open Spaces

    Tel: 01934 888802
    Email: [email hidden]
    http://www.n-somerset.gov.uk
    ================================================================

    So it's nice to see that a potentially dangerous situation is being
    treated with the urgency with which it deserves. I can't help wondering
    if the situation would be any different if this pole was waving about in
    the road - I'll ask them!

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  2. Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

    In the recent winds, an aluminium poled wire mesh fence came loose on an
    industrial park,
    ...
    On 2nd March this
    was duly reported to the council, who can presumably contact the owners
    of the park to fix it. Today, 4 days later, I got this:-

    ================================================================
    Thank you for your email.

    ================================================================

    So it's nice to see that a potentially dangerous situation is being
    treated with the urgency with which it deserves. I can't help wondering
    if the situation would be any different if this pole was waving about in
    the road - I'll ask them!

    --
    Paul Boydhttp://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

    In fairness to the Council though Paul, it sounds as though you
    emailed them about this.

    That doesn't excuse the "10 days to investigate" but it does partly
    excuse the "4 days to reply".

    In my line of work I get very frustrated about being emailed with
    urgent problems - when you click "Send" you have no idea how long it
    will take to arrive, whether it actually will arrive, whether the
    other person will be aware of its arrival... etc.

    If it's urgent enough to need immediate attention, pick up the phone.

    In fact, it's probably worth phoning them now to explain the
    situation.

    In the meantime, be careful out there! I'm glad you managed to avoid
    a nasty accident, I've had a similar near-miss with a fallen tree on a
    dark lane and it was not a pleasant experience.

  3. Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote in news:45ed5d71$0$8746
    [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    So it's nice to see that a potentially dangerous situation is being
    treated with the urgency with which it deserves. I can't help wondering
    if the situation would be any different if this pole was waving about in
    the road - I'll ask them!

    If I noticed a pole waving around at face height across a cycleway, I'd be
    tempted to dial "999" for exactly the same reasons as I'd dial "999" for a
    pole wafting around at windscreen height over a road. There is, after all,
    a danger to life or risk of injury being caused - which is one of the
    criteria for which a 999 call is warranted.

  4. [email hidden] said the following on 06/03/2007 12:47:

    Quoted message said:

    In fairness to the Council though Paul, it sounds as though you
    emailed them about this.

    .... apparently their preferred method of communication.

    Quoted message said:

    In my line of work I get very frustrated about being emailed with
    urgent problems - when you click "Send" you have no idea how long it
    will take to arrive, whether it actually will arrive, whether the
    other person will be aware of its arrival... etc.

    In my line of work, if I wasn't aware of the arrival of an urgent email
    for 4 hours I'd be shot, never mind 4 days (although there was a weekend
    in between - apparently some people have Saturdays off!!!!)

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, it's probably worth phoning them now to explain the
    situation.

    I have spoken to them on the phone, and they said that the "10 days" is
    a standard email response, and in fact they will try to get someone out
    today. I'm not blaming the council for the problem, but rather that
    they have the means to contact the estate owner to fix it and I don't.

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  5. Quoted message said:

    In fairness to the Council though Paul, it sounds as though you
    emailed them about this.

    No, that's really what we're asked to do. If you phone 01934
    888802, you end up in a queue and get a brush-off if possible if
    it's anything complicated. I phoned up to report some tidal-flow
    traffic lights letting oncoming traffic go before all vehicles
    have cleared the controlled section and was told they'd do nothing
    because the lights weren't theirs. I was later told that was an
    error, but I'm not surprised to hear others have had similar bad
    service.

    If you see the candidates before May's vote, ask them about this!

    Regards,
    --
    MJ Ray - see/vidu http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
    Webmaster/web developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop maker,
    developer of koha, debian, gobo, gnustep, various mail and web s/w.
    Workers co-op @ Weston-super-Mare, Somerset http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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