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Fixed gear axle thread trouble

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  1. I just stripped threads of the second rear axle in my fixed gear bike.
    Before I go for a third axle, I would like to know why those threads
    strip and how it could be prevented.

    Both axles and nuts were destroyed in the same way: I had to remove
    the rear wheel for tire or gear change and when tightening the nuts
    again the right side nut would skip threads. The nuts were not
    especially tight before stripping and there were no visible signs of
    breaking. The unusual thing about the hub is that it doesn't have
    serrated locknuts or nut washers (both seem to be impossible to find
    in 3/8 inch size here). The wheel does not slip in dropouts
    noticeably; could this still have something to do with the problem?

    Juhani

  2. Juhani Simola said:

    Both axles and nuts were destroyed in the same way: I had to remove
    the rear wheel for tire or gear change and when tightening the nuts
    again the right side nut would skip threads. The nuts were not
    especially tight before stripping and there were no visible signs of
    breaking. The unusual thing about the hub is that it doesn't have
    serrated locknuts or nut washers (both seem to be impossible to find
    in 3/8 inch size here).

    I'd suspect that the nuts weren't quite the right size for the axle. It's
    probably worth your while to order some real track nuts with your next
    axle. Order them from elsewhere if you can't find them locally.

    Another option would be to replace the axle with a hollow axle and a quick
    release. This is not OK for track use, but is fine on the road.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored
    _`\(,_ | by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." --Ralph Waldo
    (_)/ (_) | Emerson

  3. Juhani Simola said:

    I just stripped threads of the second rear axle in my fixed gear bike.
    Before I go for a third axle, I would like to know why those threads
    strip and how it could be prevented.

    Both axles and nuts were destroyed in the same way: I had to remove
    the rear wheel for tire or gear change and when tightening the nuts
    again the right side nut would skip threads. The nuts were not
    especially tight before stripping and there were no visible signs of
    breaking. The unusual thing about the hub is that it doesn't have
    serrated locknuts or nut washers (both seem to be impossible to find
    in 3/8 inch size here). The wheel does not slip in dropouts
    noticeably; could this still have something to do with the problem?

    Juhani

    sounds like you were given 10mm nuts on a 3/8" [9.5mm] axle. make sure
    you have a properly matched set next time.

  4. Juhani Simola said:

    I just stripped threads of the second rear axle in my fixed gear bike.
    Before I go for a third axle, I would like to know why those threads
    strip and how it could be prevented.

    Both axles and nuts were destroyed in the same way: I had to remove
    the rear wheel for tire or gear change and when tightening the nuts
    again the right side nut would skip threads. The nuts were not
    especially tight before stripping and there were no visible signs of
    breaking. The unusual thing about the hub is that it doesn't have
    serrated locknuts or nut washers (both seem to be impossible to find
    in 3/8 inch size here). The wheel does not slip in dropouts
    noticeably; could this still have something to do with the problem?

    You want smooth washers - serrated ones chew up the frame
    ends with frequent adjustments.

    It may well be that you have a Suzue hub with a 9.5mm axle
    on which someone installed the now more common 10mm nuts.

    You should not be able to strip a wet 9.5x1 or 10x1 thread
    with merely a wrench unless something's very much awry -
    like the wrong axle nuts.

    When you get the THIRD set the nut should not wiggle on the
    axle once fully engaged.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  5. A Muzi said:

    You should not be able to strip a wet 9.5x1 or 10x1 thread with merely
    a wrench unless something's very much awry -
    like the wrong axle nuts.

    Thank you all for answers. I will double check the next set. I thought
    previously that 10 mm nuts come with 1 mm thread and 9.5 mm nuts with
    26 tpi thread so that they can't be mixed. It looks like 26 tpi 10 mm
    nuts do exist and I had two sets of them.

    Juhani

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