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  1. OK, I'm new to running. 45 year old male, 5'10" 150 lbs or so, down from 200 lbs 9 mos. ago.

    Growing up, through junior high, high school, college and beyond, every few years I had tried
    running, for a month at a time, and had hated it. It wasn't so much the pain in my muscles, or legs,
    but I got so winded that my chest muscles and lungs were killing me. And my time never got better.
    So, each time, I stopped.

    3 months ago, whilst walking on the treadmill at the gym, I tried running again. I really pushed
    myself at 7.0 mph for 10 minutes. Once again, I hated it. I could barely breath. OK, I'll never be a
    runner. I'll do my 10 minutes at 7.0 in conjunction with an hour long walk on the treadmill. I'm
    getting plenty of cardio, I don't HAVE to run.

    Well, I mentioned this to a friend who runs for 1 1/2 hours at a time, and he said that he runs at
    about 6 mph. What the hell, I try it.

    Oy! After 10 minutes, I wasn't even breaking a sweat! I was barely winded. I stopped anyway, and did
    the 10 minutes every day for a week. The week after that, I upped it to 20 minutes, etc., etc., etc.
    Now, I'm up to 50 minutes, starting out at 6.0 mph, then working my way eventually up to 7.5 mph for
    the last 10 minutes.

    My problem was that I just was plain old running too damn fast. I had no concept of how fast I
    should be running, etc., and the pace I set out for myself felt, "OK", except that I was
    killing myself.

    DAMN, I WISH someone had told me this when I was 16...

    Anyway, so I've been running on a treadmill in the gym for 3 months. I've been itching to try it
    outside (mainly because I don't have to waste 10 minutes driving to the gym, then waste 10 minutes
    driving home), but the weather has been so cold I don't want to freeze or slip on ice, or whatever.
    I've done my street back and forth twice (1.8 miles) on the two non-sub freezing days we've had
    since December, and it was OK. Definately different. Took longer that I normally would, but I don't
    care about that. Knees hurt a little more.

    SO, I'm checking the weather forcast, planning a route, checking the milage
    (4.1 miles), ...this morning was the big day.

    I put on my bright yellow, reflective construction vest and get out there at
    5:15 AM. Within 1/4 mile, I get a pain in my right hip that a) is INTENSE, every time my right foot
    strikes, b) I have never felt before. Pressing on my hip while running alleviates it, but that's
    ridiculous. Also, pain in the right knee. I stop. Try to "walk it out". Begin running again, the
    pain is there. Turn around, head back home. VERY [censored]. First big chance in 2 months to run
    outside, and I hurt myself somehow. Pain goes away, I turn around again and start running. Almost
    reach the end of the street, pain comes back. Walk a bit more, pain goes away, does not come back.

    It's 31 degrees out. I'm wearing shorts, sweatpants, 3 shirts, and a hat. No gloves. Which I'm
    regretting. My hands are COLD. I alternate putting them in my pockets to warm them up. This works,
    but makes it uncomfortable to run.

    At mile 1.5, I step in a pothole (semi-rural New Jersey, no lights on the roads, more likely to get
    trampled by a herd of deer than hit by a car at this time of day). Minor pain. Not so bad, could
    have been WAY worse. At most it scared me, thinking I could have broken my ankle. I assume that my
    weight training and the running over the last 3 months had prevented it from being more serious. I
    keep on running.

    At about 2 miles in, I have to pee. Being that it's in the middle of nowhere, and it's 5:30 AM, I
    just stop in the middle of the road and go. Certainly can't do that in the gym.

    Hands aren't cold anymore. Has it gotten warmer? Has the blood in my body started reaching my
    extrmities?

    Encounter "black ice". OK, it's not getting warmer.

    At mile 3, it suddenly dawns on me...I'm going to make it!

    Now it's 6:00 AM, more cars on the road, and I have to stop and wait for 2 cars on the the one "big"
    road I have to cross...Damn. Cross the road, head home. Not bad for the first time, and a HELL OF A
    LOT MORE INTERESTING than running on a treadmill...

    Questions - what about my hands? They were cold inthe beginning. I was a bit concerned. But I don't
    relish the thought of taking gloves, and then having them be too hot later on. I hate running with
    things in my pockets, or bags hanging around my waist.

    What's the deal with the hip? As I write this, 1/2 hour later, it is VERY STIFF, when I get up and
    move around, it hurts. The pain goes away after a few minutes of moving. It "clicks" when I walk. I
    can't tell if this is a joint clicking, or a muscle moving back and forth over a bone. Should I be
    concerned? Should I just stretch a little? Should I go for it again tomorrow? Take a few days off?

    Thanks,

    Jeff.

  2. Congrats on a successful run outside! After this one, the rest will seem easy. Seriously (OK, partly
    seriously).

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    I put on my bright yellow, reflective construction vest

    Good idea. I run mostly in the afternoon (dang second shift) but I have one too for the occasional
    evening run.

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    and get out there at
    5:15 AM. Within 1/4 mile, I get a pain in my right hip that a) is INTENSE, every time my right foot
    strikes, b) I have never felt before.

    Maybe you have a strained muscle in there somewhere, and it loosened up a bit after you walked some.
    Dunno; that's a long-distance guess. Running outside involves slightly different motions than
    treadmill running, because you push off a bit differently and, with the more varied terrain, use
    your stabilization muscles in new ways.

    Not trying to run through intense pain is a good plan. Sounds as if you handled it well.

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    At mile 3, it suddenly dawns on me...I'm going to make it!

    Yeah!

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    Questions - what about my hands? They were cold inthe beginning. I was a bit concerned. But I don't
    relish the thought of taking gloves, and then having them be too hot later on. I hate running with
    things in my pockets, or bags hanging around my waist.

    I always wear gloves on chilly days. If I warm up I just take them off and carry them in my hand;
    it's no big deal. Sometimes it's cold enough for a jacket, and gloves in my jacket pockets don't
    bother me at all (as opposed to pockets in my shorts, which would). At any rate I'd rather carry the
    gloves than have very cold hands.

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    What's the deal with the hip? As I write this, 1/2 hour later, it is VERY STIFF, when I get up and
    move around, it hurts. The pain goes away after a few minutes of moving. It "clicks" when I walk. I
    can't tell if this is a joint clicking, or a muscle moving back and forth over a bone. Should I be
    concerned? Should I just stretch a little? Should I go for it again tomorrow? Take a few days off?

    I'd stretch some and try again tomorrow, maybe a shorter "recovery" run. Taking a day off might be
    indicated as well, depends on how you feel. I wouldn't take more than one day off.

    Good luck!

    --
    Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

    If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

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    Congrats on a successful run outside! After this one, the rest will seem easy. Seriously (OK,
    partly seriously).

    If I keep it to this distance and pace, they'll be easy. But 4 miles isn't that far, and 6 mph is
    slower than I'd like.

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    I put on my bright yellow, reflective construction vest

    Good idea. I run mostly in the afternoon (dang second shift) but I have one too for the occasional
    evening run.

    $10 at Home Depot. I probably could have gotten one cheaper somewhere else, but it should
    last a while.

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    and get out there at
    5:15 AM. Within 1/4 mile, I get a pain in my right hip that a) is


    INTENSE,

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    every time my right foot strikes, b) I have never felt before.

    Maybe you have a strained muscle in there somewhere, and it loosened up a bit after you walked
    some. Dunno; that's a long-distance guess. Running outside involves slightly different motions
    than treadmill running, because you push off a bit differently and, with the more varied terrain,
    use your stabilization muscles in new ways.

    True, but I have, once or twice, run on the same street.

    It's in the evening now, and it still hurts. I'm icing it. Don't want to take any chances...

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    having them be too hot later on. I hate running with things in my


    pockets,

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    or bags hanging around my waist.

    I always wear gloves on chilly days. If I warm up I just take them off and carry them in my hand;
    it's no big deal.

    My wife has a really thin pair of gloves with a New Balance logo on them. I guess they're for
    running. I'm going to try to hunt some up for my size hands. Gloves that thin wouldn't bother me if
    I stuck them in my pockets.

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    Sometimes it's cold enough for a jacket, and gloves in my jacket pockets don't bother me at all
    (as opposed to pockets in my shorts, which would).

    How cold is that? I was sweating at 31 degrees this morning. On Thursday, the forecast at 5:00 AM is
    24 degrees. We'll see how THAT goes...

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    I'd stretch some and try again tomorrow, maybe a shorter "recovery" run. Taking a day off might be
    indicated as well, depends on how you feel. I wouldn't take more than one day off.

    I'm not running tomorrow. But I DO plan to lift. I might not do the lower half of my body after the
    first leg press though.

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    Good luck!

    Thank,

    Jeff.

  4. "JR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Maybe you have a strained muscle in there somewhere, and it loosened up a bit after you walked
    some. Dunno; that's a long-distance guess. Running outside involves slightly different motions
    than treadmill running, because you push off a bit differently and, with the more varied
    terrain, use your stabilization muscles in new ways.

    True, but I have, once or twice, run on the same street.

    It's also possible that you pulled or twisted something "just because," either at the beginning of
    the run or even some time earlier that day. You can go up and down the stairs 10 times a day for 10
    years straight, and then one day--bam--you hit something in just the right wrong way, and you spend
    the rest of the day hobbling around and in pain.

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    It's in the evening now, and it still hurts. I'm icing it. Don't want to take any chances...

    My thoughts on the matter, as a beginning runner interested in health and fitness as opposed to a
    competitive running interested in improving my times--the benefits of running on a sore anything
    rarely outweigh the costs. Especially sharp pain.

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    having them be too hot later on. I hate running with things in my


    pockets,

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    or bags hanging around my waist.

    I always wear gloves on chilly days. If I warm up I just take them off and carry them in my
    hand; it's no big deal.

    My wife has a really thin pair of gloves with a New Balance logo on them.


    I

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    guess they're for running. I'm going to try to hunt some up for my size hands. Gloves that thin
    wouldn't bother me if I stuck them in my pockets.

    I don't know if most guys can do this, but you might try the super-cheap, super-thin "magic gloves"
    that look tiny and are supposed to stretch. You should be able to get them for a buck a pair just
    about anywhere this time of year. Buy many many pairs all in one color. They also take up very
    little space if you get too warm and need to tuck them away somewhere.

  5. Did you go over the wall, or tunnell under? How did you avoid the guards and spotlights?

    "JR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    OK, I'm new to running. 45 year old male, 5'10" 150 lbs or so, down from 200 lbs 9 mos. ago.

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