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  1. On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:12:04p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken Davey?

    Quoted message said:
    Goomba38 said:
    Michael 'Dog3' Lonergan said:

    ROFL... Absinthe make the brain go yonder.

    Michael


    oh god.. you're killing me here!! LOL
    <making note of all the Absinthe jokes>

    Goomba

    Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".
    All in all it is an interesting drink and an acquired taste.
    It does not deserve it's bad reputation.
    http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/history.html

    Ken.

    I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that for many
    people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love it.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  2. Wayne said:

    Somewhere along the road of life I read that because of absinthe being
    aged in wormwood, there was a toxin that leached into the liquid that
    caused insanity if consumed with regularity. Old wive's tale? I don't
    know.

    You're probably talking about thujone. The controversy rages on as to
    whether there's enough thujone in absinthe to do real damage to a human
    neurosystem. (Google for thujone to find such arguments.)

    Most of my Gothic friends went through a phase where they were interested in
    absinthe. In a discussion over its long-term effects, the comment I made
    was, "You can debate the issue as much as you like, but the specter of
    millions of crazed Frenchmen is hard to ignore."

    I was given two bottles of absinthe some years ago, and I eventually got
    around to tasting it. It's an extremely bitter admixture of licorice and
    pine flavors. I didn't like it, and I donated both bottles to a party
    earlier this year.

    Bob

  3. Wayne said:

    I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that
    for many people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love it.

    Pernod only has a passing resemblance to absinthe; it lacks the extreme
    bitterness (that comes from the wormwood) and the pine flavors.

    Speaking of wormwood, it can't be all THAT toxic or vermouth would be as
    verboten as absinthe. (The very name "vermouth" comes from the German word
    "wermut," meaning "wormwood."😉

    Bob

  4. Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:12:04p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken
    Davey?

    Quoted message said:
    Goomba38 said:

    Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

    > ROFL... Absinthe make the brain go yonder.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    oh god.. you're killing me here!! LOL
    <making note of all the Absinthe jokes>

    Goomba

    Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".
    All in all it is an interesting drink and an acquired taste.
    It does not deserve it's bad reputation.
    http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/history.html

    Ken.

    I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that
    for many people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love
    it.

    The toxin in Absinthe is alpha-thujone, generally present in modern day
    Absinthe in concentrationsof 10PPM.
    http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20000401/fob4.asp

    "In today's absinthe, the most toxic compound is the alcohol"
    It (the booze, not the toxin) can be purchased in Canada. Alas - not cheap.

    Ken.

    --
    http://www.rupert.net/~solar
    Return address supplied by 'spammotel'
    http://www.spammotel.com

  5. On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:33:11p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Bob
    Terwilliger?

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne said:

    Somewhere along the road of life I read that because of absinthe being
    aged in wormwood, there was a toxin that leached into the liquid that
    caused insanity if consumed with regularity. Old wive's tale? I don't
    know.

    You're probably talking about thujone. The controversy rages on as to
    whether there's enough thujone in absinthe to do real damage to a human
    neurosystem. (Google for thujone to find such arguments.)

    Most of my Gothic friends went through a phase where they were
    interested in absinthe. In a discussion over its long-term effects, the
    comment I made was, "You can debate the issue as much as you like, but
    the specter of millions of crazed Frenchmen is hard to ignore."

    I was given two bottles of absinthe some years ago, and I eventually got
    around to tasting it. It's an extremely bitter admixture of licorice and
    pine flavors. I didn't like it, and I donated both bottles to a party
    earlier this year.

    Thanks for the interesting info!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  6. On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:36:09p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Bob
    Terwilliger?

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne said:

    I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that for
    many people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love it.

    Pernod only has a passing resemblance to absinthe; it lacks the extreme
    bitterness (that comes from the wormwood) and the pine flavors.

    Speaking of wormwood, it can't be all THAT toxic or vermouth would be as
    verboten as absinthe. (The very name "vermouth" comes from the German
    word "wermut," meaning "wormwood."😉

    And also for this!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  7. On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:39:11p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken Davey?

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:12:04p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken
    Davey?

    Quoted message said:

    Goomba38 wrote:
    > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
    >
    >> ROFL... Absinthe make the brain go yonder.
    >>
    >> Michael
    >>
    > oh god.. you're killing me here!! LOL
    > <making note of all the Absinthe jokes>
    >
    > Goomba

    Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".
    All in all it is an interesting drink and an acquired taste.
    It does not deserve it's bad reputation.
    http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/history.html

    Ken.

    I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that
    for many people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love
    it.

    The toxin in Absinthe is alpha-thujone, generally present in modern day
    Absinthe in concentrationsof 10PPM.
    http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20000401/fob4.asp

    "In today's absinthe, the most toxic compound is the alcohol"
    It (the booze, not the toxin) can be purchased in Canada. Alas - not
    cheap.

    Ken.

    Thanks, Ken! I really would like to taste it sometime.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  8. Mi e' parso che Bob Terwilliger abbia scritto:

    Quoted message said:

    Pernod only has a passing resemblance to absinthe; it
    lacks the extreme bitterness (that comes from the
    wormwood) and the pine flavors.

    It also lacks the 80% alcool content. Or at least, here in Italy
    when you find absynthe it is around 80% alcool.
    And I too dislike that extreme bitterness, along with the
    tannicity, also this originating from the wood.
    --
    Vilco
    Think Pink , Drink Rose'

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ken Davey said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".

    I always thought it was "Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder." Was
    fodder a typo?
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-18-05 - Church review (I think
    I'll become a critic - Rob's been calling me one for years!)
    and a toffee recipe.

  10. "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> looking for trouble
    wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne said:

    Somewhere along the road of life I read that because of absinthe
    being aged in wormwood, there was a toxin that leached into the
    liquid that caused insanity if consumed with regularity. Old wive's
    tale? I don't know.

    You're probably talking about thujone. The controversy rages on as to
    whether there's enough thujone in absinthe to do real damage to a
    human neurosystem. (Google for thujone to find such arguments.)

    Most of my Gothic friends went through a phase where they were
    interested in absinthe. In a discussion over its long-term effects,
    the comment I made was, "You can debate the issue as much as you like,
    but the specter of millions of crazed Frenchmen is hard to ignore."

    I was given two bottles of absinthe some years ago, and I eventually
    got around to tasting it. It's an extremely bitter admixture of
    licorice and pine flavors. I didn't like it, and I donated both
    bottles to a party earlier this year.

    Bob

    My friend Martha smuggled some in from Greece last year. The stuff is
    nasty.

    Michael

    --
    ....Bacteria: The rear entrance to a cafeteria.

    All gramatical errors and misspellings due to Ramsey the cyber kitten. He
    now owns all keyboards and computing devices in the household and has the
    final say on what is, or is not, posted.
    Send email to dog30 at charter dot net

  11. Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> looking for trouble wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:12:04p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken
    Davey?

    Quoted message said:
    Goomba38 said:

    Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

    > ROFL... Absinthe make the brain go yonder.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    oh god.. you're killing me here!! LOL
    <making note of all the Absinthe jokes>

    Goomba

    Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".
    All in all it is an interesting drink and an acquired taste.
    It does not deserve it's bad reputation.
    http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/history.html

    Ken.

    I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that for
    many people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love it.

    Lush butt !!! 😉

    Michael

    --
    ....Bacteria: The rear entrance to a cafeteria.

    All gramatical errors and misspellings due to Ramsey the cyber kitten. He
    now owns all keyboards and computing devices in the household and has the
    final say on what is, or is not, posted.
    Send email to dog30 at charter dot net

  12. Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:39:11p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken
    Davey?

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:12:04p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken
    Davey?

    > Goomba38 wrote:
    >> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
    >>
    >>> ROFL... Absinthe make the brain go yonder.
    >>>
    >>> Michael
    >>>
    >> oh god.. you're killing me here!! LOL
    >> <making note of all the Absinthe jokes>
    >>
    >> Goomba
    >
    > Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".
    > All in all it is an interesting drink and an acquired taste.
    > It does not deserve it's bad reputation.
    > http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/history.html
    >
    > Ken.

    I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that
    for many people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love
    it.

    The toxin in Absinthe is alpha-thujone, generally present in modern
    day Absinthe in concentrationsof 10PPM.
    http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20000401/fob4.asp

    "In today's absinthe, the most toxic compound is the alcohol"
    It (the booze, not the toxin) can be purchased in Canada. Alas - not
    cheap.

    Ken.

    Thanks, Ken! I really would like to taste it sometime.

    Aka 'The Green Fairy'... from what I've read it is to be consumed in a
    special glass and using a special spoon on which a cube of sugar has been
    placed... then you pour the Absinthe over the sugar cube on the spoon into
    the glass. Only the fact of it being banned (at least for a while; I'm not
    up on the current laws) peaks my interest.

    Jill

  13. jmcquown said:

    Aka 'The Green Fairy'... from what I've read it is to be consumed in a
    special glass and using a special spoon on which a cube of sugar has been
    placed... then you pour the Absinthe over the sugar cube on the spoon into
    the glass. Only the fact of it being banned (at least for a while; I'm not
    up on the current laws) peaks my interest.


    That would be different from the way we used to drink it in Japan where
    it was (may still be, I dunno) legal. The absinthe was in a small
    glass, you held a sugar cube in a spoon over the glass and then poured
    a little water over the sugar into the absinthe. The water turned the
    absinthe from a clear green to a milky white. The taste was a good
    deal more bitter than Pernod, and the alcohol content was off the
    charts. I never figured out whether it was the absinthe itself that
    made me ralph, or just that I got so drunk from it. All part of the
    perils of being a G.I. -aem

  14. On Tue 20 Dec 2005 07:28:07a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Michael
    "Dog3" Lonergan?

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> looking for trouble wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:12:04p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken
    Davey?

    Quoted message said:

    Goomba38 wrote:
    > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
    >
    >> ROFL... Absinthe make the brain go yonder.
    >>
    >> Michael
    >>
    > oh god.. you're killing me here!! LOL
    > <making note of all the Absinthe jokes>
    >
    > Goomba

    Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".
    All in all it is an interesting drink and an acquired taste.
    It does not deserve it's bad reputation.
    http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/history.html

    Ken.

    I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that for
    many people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love it.

    Lush butt !!! 😉

    Michael

    LOL! Well, I used to be. <g>

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  15. On Tue 20 Dec 2005 04:44:05p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it jmcquown?

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:39:11p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken
    Davey?

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    > On Mon 19 Dec 2005 09:12:04p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken
    > Davey?
    >
    >> Goomba38 wrote:
    >>> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> ROFL... Absinthe make the brain go yonder.
    >>>>
    >>>> Michael
    >>>>
    >>> oh god.. you're killing me here!! LOL
    >>> <making note of all the Absinthe jokes>
    >>>
    >>> Goomba
    >>
    >> Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".
    >> All in all it is an interesting drink and an acquired taste.
    >> It does not deserve it's bad reputation.
    >> http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/history.html
    >>
    >> Ken.
    >
    > I've never tasted absinthe, but have read that Pernod is a decent
    > substitute without absinthe's toxic characteristics. I'd say that
    > for many people, Pernod is also an acquired taste. I happen to love
    > it.
    >

    The toxin in Absinthe is alpha-thujone, generally present in modern
    day Absinthe in concentrationsof 10PPM.
    http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20000401/fob4.asp

    "In today's absinthe, the most toxic compound is the alcohol"
    It (the booze, not the toxin) can be purchased in Canada. Alas - not
    cheap.

    Ken.

    Thanks, Ken! I really would like to taste it sometime.

    Aka 'The Green Fairy'... from what I've read it is to be consumed in a
    special glass and using a special spoon on which a cube of sugar has
    been placed... then you pour the Absinthe over the sugar cube on the
    spoon into the glass. Only the fact of it being banned (at least for a
    while; I'm not up on the current laws) peaks my interest.

    Jill

    IIRC, it was the drink "Madame X" drowned her sorrows in, in the movie of
    the same name.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ken Davey said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".

    I always thought it was "Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder." Was
    fodder a typo?

    The old saying was "absence makes the heart grow fonder".

    Oscar Wilde said "Absinthe makes the fond grow hotter".

    I believe that although it's illegal to sell the stuff here in the US,
    it's legal to buy it and to drink it. I've seen ads on various web sites
    for it lately.

    Isaac

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Isaac Wingfield said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ken Davey said:

    >> Actually the old saw went "Absinthe makes the heart grow fodder".

    I always thought it was "Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder." Was
    fodder a typo?

    The old saying was "absence makes the heart grow fonder".

    Oscar Wilde said "Absinthe makes the fond grow hotter".

    I believe that although it's illegal to sell the stuff here in the US,
    it's legal to buy it and to drink it. I've seen ads on various web sites
    for it lately.

    Isaac

    thanks. A fine sentiment however it's expressed, :-)
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-18-05 - Church review (I think
    I'll become a critic - Rob's been calling me one for years!)
    and a toffee recipe.

  18. aem said:
    jmcquown said:

    Aka 'The Green Fairy'... from what I've read it is to be consumed in
    a special glass and using a special spoon on which a cube of sugar
    has been placed... then you pour the Absinthe over the sugar cube on
    the spoon into the glass. Only the fact of it being banned (at
    least for a while; I'm not up on the current laws) peaks my interest.


    That would be different from the way we used to drink it in Japan
    where
    it was (may still be, I dunno) legal. The absinthe was in a small
    glass, you held a sugar cube in a spoon over the glass and then poured
    a little water over the sugar into the absinthe. The water turned the
    absinthe from a clear green to a milky white. The taste was a good
    deal more bitter than Pernod, and the alcohol content was off the
    charts. I never figured out whether it was the absinthe itself that
    made me ralph, or just that I got so drunk from it. All part of the
    perils of being a G.I. -aem

    You are probably correct. I just remember there was a sugar cube and a
    spoon involved which always conjurs up images of a different sort in my
    mind. I've never had an opportunity to try Absinthe.

    Jill

  19. On Wed 21 Dec 2005 09:11:58a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it jmcquown?

    Quoted message said:
    aem said:
    jmcquown said:

    Aka 'The Green Fairy'... from what I've read it is to be consumed in
    a special glass and using a special spoon on which a cube of sugar
    has been placed... then you pour the Absinthe over the sugar cube on
    the spoon into the glass. Only the fact of it being banned (at
    least for a while; I'm not up on the current laws) peaks my interest.


    That would be different from the way we used to drink it in Japan
    where it was (may still be, I dunno) legal. The absinthe was in a
    small glass, you held a sugar cube in a spoon over the glass and then
    poured a little water over the sugar into the absinthe. The water
    turned the absinthe from a clear green to a milky white. The taste
    was a good deal more bitter than Pernod, and the alcohol content was
    off the charts. I never figured out whether it was the absinthe
    itself that made me ralph, or just that I got so drunk from it. All
    part of the perils of being a G.I. -aem

    Adding water to Pernod also turns it a milky white. But the same is true
    when you add water to Pine-Sol. <g>

    Quoted message said:

    You are probably correct. I just remember there was a sugar cube and a
    spoon involved which always conjurs up images of a different sort in my
    mind. I've never had an opportunity to try Absinthe.

    Jill

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  20. aem said:

    That would be different from the way we used to drink it in Japan where
    it was (may still be, I dunno) legal. The absinthe was in a small
    glass, you held a sugar cube in a spoon over the glass and then poured
    a little water over the sugar into the absinthe. The water turned the
    absinthe from a clear green to a milky white. The taste was a good
    deal more bitter than Pernod, and the alcohol content was off the
    charts. I never figured out whether it was the absinthe itself that
    made me ralph, or just that I got so drunk from it. All part of the
    perils of being a G.I. -aem

    It was probably the alcohol. My son orders it by mail from the Czech Republic. I
    would not recommend it to anyone who does not like Pernod, which is not one of my
    favourites. And Absinthe packs a heck of a wallop.

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