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  1. great NSV, Lee
    skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I had a buffallo burger on a really good whole wheat bun and excellent (spicy) barbeque sauce on
    it for 7. I don't need a cow burger anymore.

    Had a NSV today. I was late getting up for work and packed my lunch


    anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    In addition to packing my lunch I resisted the temptation to go out to eat at lunchtime (for a
    burger) and had what I packed.

    I probably could have done better if I didn't snack as much, but sometimes you gotta snack.

    Julie

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I usually have a real burger every Saturday for my evening meal. That's WI day, the day I allow
    myself to splurge a bit on points. By grilling an extra lean patty and using a lite bun for 1
    pt, I don't venture very far, if at all, into my flex points. And I've satisfied my fast food
    tooth for the week. That's the thing about WW. You can eat what you want!

    Linda P

    skiur said:

    That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I could


    taste

    Quoted message said:

    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up with a


    burger

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anyway.

    Half a day OP...that's something.

    Julie

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...
    > But you are examining these issues and that is progress, hang in


    there,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lee
    > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    > >
    > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel too drained


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed. I don't


    think

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > they
    > > ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency of


    having

    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > deal
    > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to him they
    wouldn't
    > be
    > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    > >
    > > Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was too
    overwelming
    > > to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben & Jerry's
    > afterwards
    > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as much as I


    thought

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I
    > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would. Originally I
    wanted
    > > to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to time


    limitation.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I
    > > still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work it in


    later

    Quoted message said:

    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > the
    > > week or on the weekend or something.
    > >
    > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food and we


    came

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    Quoted message said:
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    back
    > 2
    > > hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow is


    another

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    day

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > to
    > > be OP.
    > >
    > > Julie
    > >
    > >
    >
    >


  2. LOL, Lee
    Kate Dicey <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Fred said:
    Kate Dicey said:

    Prairie Roots wrote:

    > I usually have a real burger every Saturday for my evening meal. That's WI day, the day I
    > allow myself to splurge a bit on points. By grilling an extra lean patty and using a lite bun
    > for 1 pt, I don't venture very far, if at all, into my flex points. And I've satisfied my
    > fast food tooth for the week. That's the thing about WW. You can eat what you want!

    That's what I like about it too: tonight is saussage a chips night!


    Low fat

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    saussages and low fat oven chips, and fresh green veg: 6 points! 🙂


    Follow it

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    with a couple of zero fat half point each WW yoghurts, and a complete


    meal can be

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    had for a total of 7 points.

    I guess, in this case it is WeightWatchers yoghurts and not WHOLE WHEAT ones (G)

    Oh, yes! Whole wheat yog sounds about as apatizing as liquid cardboard...

    --

    Quoted message said:

    Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons diceyhome.free-online.co.ukdiceyhome.free-online.co.uk
    Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

  3. I'm not too picky either about which steak, most times I just grab the leanest looking thing on the
    shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and ground the
    other up for burgers (that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than the steaks as it usually
    is. It sure tastes alot better than the ground beef we can buy off the shelf, and the best part is I
    know there's no added fat.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out which steak to grind and then grind it (G)

    I could imagine it would be very fresh and more wholesome.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home, ground the beef myself, so


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I do the same as you at McDonalds, not that I go
    there much, but if I do I have the grilled


    chicken

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    without sauce.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You know, I do not think that I have had a hamburger at all since starting with WW. Maybe, one
    but I really don't recall any. Even at bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-boiled,
    so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's on road trips, it has been the chicken sandwich without sauce

    On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I still have all of this


    week's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    >[email hidden]...
    >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I could


    taste

    Quoted message said:

    >it
    >> and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up with


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >burger
    >> anyway.
    >>
    >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    >>
    >> Julie
    >>
    >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    >> berlin.de...
    >> > But you are examining these issues and that is progress, hang in


    there,

    Quoted message said:

    >> Lee
    >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
    >> > > Hi all,
    >> > >
    >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    >> > >
    >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel too


    drained

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >and
    >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed. I


    don't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >think
    >> > they
    >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency of


    having

    Quoted message said:

    >to
    >> > deal
    >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to him they
    >> wouldn't
    >> > be
    >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    >> > >
    >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was too
    >> overwelming
    >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben & Jerry's
    >> > afterwards
    >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as much as I
    >thought
    >> I
    >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would.


    Originally I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> wanted
    >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to time
    >limitation.
    >> > I
    >> > > still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work it in


    later

    Quoted message said:

    >in
    >> > the
    >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    >> > >
    >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food and we


    came

    Quoted message said:

    >> back
    >> > 2
    >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow is


    another

    Quoted message said:

    >day
    >> > to
    >> > > be OP.
    >> > >
    >> > > Julie
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> >
    >> >
    >>
    >>
    >

  4. Good show Julie!!

    Connie

    skiur said:

    I had a buffallo burger on a really good whole wheat bun and excellent (spicy) barbeque sauce on
    it for 7. I don't need a cow burger anymore.

    Had a NSV today. I was late getting up for work and packed my lunch anyway. In addition to
    packing my lunch I resisted the temptation to go out to eat at lunchtime (for a burger) and had
    what I packed.

    I probably could have done better if I didn't snack as much, but sometimes you gotta snack.

    Julie

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I usually have a real burger every Saturday for my evening meal. That's WI day, the day I allow
    myself to splurge a bit on points. By grilling an extra lean patty and using a lite bun for 1 pt,
    I don't venture very far, if at all, into my flex points. And I've satisfied my fast food tooth
    for the week. That's the thing about WW. You can eat what you want!

    Linda P

    skiur said:

    That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I could taste



    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up with a



    burger

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anyway.

    Half a day OP...that's something.

    Julie

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    >But you are examining these issues and that is progress, hang in there,

    Lee

    >skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >>Hi all,
    >>
    >>I had a not so good eating day today.
    >>
    >>..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel too drained
    >


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed. I don't
    >


    think

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >they
    >
    >>ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency of having
    >


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >deal
    >
    >>with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to him they
    >
    wouldn't

    >be
    >
    >>ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    >>
    >>Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was too
    >
    overwelming

    >>to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben & Jerry's
    >
    >afterwards
    >
    >>and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as much as I
    >


    thought

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I

    >>would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would. Originally I
    >
    wanted

    >>to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to time
    >


    limitation.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >I
    >
    >>still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work it in later
    >


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >the
    >
    >>week or on the weekend or something.
    >>
    >>Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food and we came
    >
    back

    >2
    >
    >>hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow is another
    >


    day

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >to
    >
    >>be OP.
    >>
    >>Julie
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

    --

    Cheers,

    Connie Walsh

    241.5/201/155 RAFL 210.5/201/198.5 2nd 10% 219.5/201/198

  5. How do you "grind" or use processor to make hamburger?

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I'm not too picky either about which steak, most times I just grab the leanest looking thing on the
    shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and ground the
    other up for burgers (that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than the steaks as it usually
    is. It sure tastes alot better than the ground beef we can buy off the shelf, and the best part is
    I know there's no added fat.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out which steak to grind and then grind it (G)

    I could imagine it would be very fresh and more wholesome.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home, ground the beef myself, so


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I do the same as you at McDonalds, not that I go
    there much, but if I do I have the grilled


    chicken

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    without sauce.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > You know, I do not think that I have had a hamburger at all since starting with WW. Maybe, one
    > but I really don't recall any. Even at bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-boiled,
    > so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's on road trips, it has been the chicken sandwich without sauce
    >
    > On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I still have all of this


    week's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    > >[email hidden]...
    > >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I could
    taste
    > >it
    > >> and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up with


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >burger
    > >> anyway.
    > >>
    > >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    > >>
    > >> Julie
    > >>
    > >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > >> berlin.de...
    > >> > But you are examining these issues and that is progress, hang in
    there,
    > >> Lee
    > >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    > >> > [email hidden]...
    > >> > > Hi all,
    > >> > >
    > >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel too


    drained

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >and
    > >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed. I


    don't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >think
    > >> > they
    > >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency of
    having
    > >to
    > >> > deal
    > >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to him they
    > >> wouldn't
    > >> > be
    > >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was too
    > >> overwelming
    > >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben & Jerry's
    > >> > afterwards
    > >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as much as I
    > >thought
    > >> I
    > >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would.


    Originally I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> wanted
    > >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to time
    > >limitation.
    > >> > I
    > >> > > still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work it in
    later
    > >in
    > >> > the
    > >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food and we
    came
    > >> back
    > >> > 2
    > >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow is
    another
    > >day
    > >> > to
    > >> > > be OP.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Julie
    > >> > >
    > >> > >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    >


  6. I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder attachment. It works great and I use it often. It
    also has a sausage stuffer attachment that works really well.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How do you "grind" or use processor to make hamburger?

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I'm not too picky either about which steak, most times I just grab the leanest looking thing on
    the shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and ground
    the other up for


    burgers

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than the steaks as it usually is. It sure tastes
    alot better than the ground beef we can buy


    off

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no added fat.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out which steak to grind and then grind it (G)

    I could imagine it would be very fresh and more wholesome.

    On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home, ground the beef myself,


    so

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I do the same as you at McDonalds, not that I go
    >there much, but if I do I have the grilled


    chicken

    Quoted message said:

    >without sauce.
    >
    >Brenda
    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> You know, I do not think that I have had a hamburger at all since starting with WW. Maybe,
    >> one but I really don't recall any. Even


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-boiled, so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's on
    >> road trips, it has been the chicken


    sandwich

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> without sauce
    >>
    >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I still have all of this


    week's

    Quoted message said:

    >> >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    >> >[email hidden]...
    >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >taste
    >> >it
    >> >> and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    >> >burger
    >> >> anyway.
    >> >>
    >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    >> >>
    >> >> Julie
    >> >>
    >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    >> >> berlin.de...
    >> >> > But you are examining these issues and that is progress, hang


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >there,
    >> >> Lee
    >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    >> >> > [email hidden]...
    >> >> > > Hi all,
    >> >> > >
    >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    >> >> > >
    >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel too


    drained

    Quoted message said:

    >> >and
    >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed. I


    don't

    Quoted message said:

    >> >think
    >> >> > they
    >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency of
    >having
    >> >to
    >> >> > deal
    >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to him


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >> wouldn't
    >> >> > be
    >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    >> >> > >
    >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was


    too

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >> overwelming
    >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben &


    Jerry's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >> > afterwards
    >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as much


    as I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >thought
    >> >> I
    >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would.


    Originally I

    Quoted message said:

    >> >> wanted
    >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to time
    >> >limitation.
    >> >> > I
    >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work it


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >later
    >> >in
    >> >> > the
    >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    >> >> > >
    >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food and


    we

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >came
    >> >> back
    >> >> > 2
    >> >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow is
    >another
    >> >day
    >> >> > to
    >> >> > > be OP.
    >> >> > >
    >> >> > > Julie
    >> >> > >
    >> >> > >
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >>
    >

  7. Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make
    pasta with it, too.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder attachment. It works great and I use it often. It
    also has a sausage stuffer attachment that works really well.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How do you "grind" or use processor to make hamburger?

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I'm not too picky either about which steak, most times I just grab the leanest looking thing on
    the shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and ground
    the other up for


    burgers

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than the steaks as it usually is. It sure tastes
    alot better than the ground beef we can buy


    off

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no added fat.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out which steak to grind and then grind it (G)
    >
    > I could imagine it would be very fresh and more wholesome.
    >
    > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home, ground the beef myself,


    so

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I
    > >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I do the same as you at McDonalds, not that I
    > >go there much, but if I do I have the grilled
    chicken
    > >without sauce.
    > >
    > >Brenda
    > >
    > >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >"]news:[email hidden]...
    > >> You know, I do not think that I have had a hamburger at all since starting with WW. Maybe,
    > >> one but I really don't recall any. Even


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-boiled, so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's on
    > >> road trips, it has been the chicken


    sandwich

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> without sauce
    > >>
    > >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I still have all of this
    week's
    > >> >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    > >> >[email hidden]...
    > >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >taste
    > >> >it
    > >> >> and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up


    with

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    a
    > >> >burger
    > >> >> anyway.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Julie
    > >> >>
    > >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > >> >> berlin.de...
    > >> >> > But you are examining these issues and that is progress, hang


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >there,
    > >> >> Lee
    > >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    > >> >> > [email hidden]...
    > >> >> > > Hi all,
    > >> >> > >
    > >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    > >> >> > >
    > >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel too
    drained
    > >> >and
    > >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed. I
    don't
    > >> >think
    > >> >> > they
    > >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency of
    > >having
    > >> >to
    > >> >> > deal
    > >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to him


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> >> wouldn't
    > >> >> > be
    > >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    > >> >> > >
    > >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was


    too

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> >> overwelming
    > >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben &


    Jerry's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> >> > afterwards
    > >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as much


    as I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> >thought
    > >> >> I
    > >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would.
    Originally I
    > >> >> wanted
    > >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to time
    > >> >limitation.
    > >> >> > I
    > >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work it


    in

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    > >later
    > >> >in
    > >> >> > the
    > >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    > >> >> > >
    > >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food and


    we

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    > >came
    > >> >> back
    > >> >> > 2
    > >> >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow is
    > >another
    > >> >day
    > >> >> > to
    > >> >> > > be OP.
    > >> >> > >
    > >> >> > > Julie
    > >> >> > >
    > >> >> > >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >
    > >>
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    >


  8. Thanks Connie.

    "Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4047D10E.9080701@nospam_primus.ca...

    Quoted message said:

    Good show Julie!!

    Connie

    skiur said:

    I had a buffallo burger on a really good whole wheat bun and excellent (spicy) barbeque sauce on
    it for 7. I don't need a cow burger anymore.

    Had a NSV today. I was late getting up for work and packed my lunch


    anyway.

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    In addition to packing my lunch I resisted the temptation to go out to


    eat

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    at lunchtime (for a burger) and had what I packed.

    I probably could have done better if I didn't snack as much, but


    sometimes

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    you gotta snack.

    Julie

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I usually have a real burger every Saturday for my evening meal. That's WI day, the day I allow
    myself to splurge a bit on points. By grilling an extra lean patty and using a lite bun for 1
    pt, I don't venture very far, if at all, into my flex points. And I've satisfied my fast food
    tooth for the week. That's the thing about WW. You can eat what you want!

    Linda P

    On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 22:35:54 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I could


    taste

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    it

    Quoted message said:

    >and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up with a


    burger

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    >anyway.
    >
    >Half a day OP...that's something.
    >
    >Julie
    >
    >"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    >berlin.de...
    >
    >>But you are examining these issues and that is progress, hang in


    there,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    >Lee
    >
    >>skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >>>Hi all,
    >>>
    >>>I had a not so good eating day today.
    >>>
    >>>..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel too drained
    >>


    and

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    >>>hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed. I don't
    >>


    think

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    >>they
    >>
    >>>ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency of having
    >>


    to

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    >>deal
    >>
    >>>with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to him they
    >>
    >wouldn't
    >
    >>be
    >>
    >>>ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    >>>
    >>>Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was too
    >>
    >overwelming
    >
    >>>to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben & Jerry's
    >>
    >>afterwards
    >>
    >>>and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as much as I
    >>


    thought

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    >I
    >
    >>>would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would. Originally I
    >>
    >wanted
    >
    >>>to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to time
    >>


    limitation.

    Quoted message said:

    >>I
    >>
    >>>still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work it in later
    >>


    in

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    >>the
    >>
    >>>week or on the weekend or something.
    >>>
    >>>Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food and we came
    >>
    >back
    >
    >>2
    >>
    >>>hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow is another
    >>


    day

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    >>to
    >>
    >>>be OP.
    >>>
    >>>Julie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>

    --

    Cheers,

    Connie Walsh

    241.5/201/155 RAFL 210.5/201/198.5 2nd 10% 219.5/201/198

  9. I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as often as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I
    didn't appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I want to make sure I get the full
    benefit of it's use. I must mention though that I haven't used the pasta attachment as often as I'd
    like. I seem to use the sausage and grinding attachment much more. Perhaps this weekend DS and I
    will try the pasta attachment. It's supposed to rain like heck here so it would be a good weekend to
    do some inside stuff!

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make
    pasta with it, too.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder attachment. It works


    great

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer attachment that works really well.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How do you "grind" or use processor to make hamburger?

    On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most times I just grab the leanest looking thing
    >on the shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and
    >ground the other up for


    burgers

    Quoted message said:

    >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than the steaks as it usually is. It sure
    >tastes alot better than the ground beef we can


    buy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off

    Quoted message said:

    >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no added fat.
    >
    >Brenda
    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out which steak to grind

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> and then grind it (G)
    >>
    >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more wholesome.
    >>
    >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home, ground the beef


    myself,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so

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    >I
    >> >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I do the same as you


    at

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >McDonalds, not that I go there much, but if I do I have the grilled
    >chicken
    >> >without sauce.
    >> >
    >> >Brenda
    >> >
    >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a hamburger at all since starting with WW.
    >> >> Maybe, one but I really don't recall any.


    Even

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    at

    Quoted message said:

    >> >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-boiled, so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's on
    >> >> road trips, it has been the chicken


    sandwich

    Quoted message said:

    >> >> without sauce
    >> >>
    >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I still have all of


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >week's
    >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    >> >> >[email hidden]...
    >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I


    could

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    >> >taste
    >> >> >it
    >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up


    with

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    >a
    >> >> >burger
    >> >> >> anyway.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> Julie
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    >> >> >> berlin.de...
    >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and that is progress,


    hang

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    Quoted message said:

    in

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    >> >there,
    >> >> >> Lee
    >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel


    too

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >drained
    >> >> >and
    >> >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed.


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >don't
    >> >> >think
    >> >> >> > they
    >> >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >having
    >> >> >to
    >> >> >> > deal
    >> >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to


    him

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    Quoted message said:

    they

    Quoted message said:

    >> >> >> wouldn't
    >> >> >> > be
    >> >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was


    too

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    >> >> >> overwelming
    >> >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben &


    Jerry's

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    >> >> >> > afterwards
    >> >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as


    much

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    as I

    Quoted message said:

    >> >> >thought
    >> >> >> I
    >> >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would.
    >Originally I
    >> >> >> wanted
    >> >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to


    time

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >> >limitation.
    >> >> >> > I
    >> >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work


    it

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    Quoted message said:

    in

    Quoted message said:

    >> >later
    >> >> >in
    >> >> >> > the
    >> >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food


    and

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    Quoted message said:

    we

    Quoted message said:

    >> >came
    >> >> >> back
    >> >> >> > 2
    >> >> >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow


    is

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >another
    >> >> >day
    >> >> >> > to
    >> >> >> > > be OP.
    >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> > > Julie
    >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >
    >> >>
    >> >
    >>
    >

  10. Tell your husband that this gift will last forever, might make him feel even better. I've had mine
    for over 25 years now, and it's still going strong.

    Joyce

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as often as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I
    didn't appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I want to make sure I get the full
    benefit of it's use. I must mention though that I haven't used the pasta attachment as often as I'd
    like. I seem to use the sausage and grinding attachment much more. Perhaps this weekend DS and I
    will try the pasta attachment. It's supposed to rain like heck here so it would be a good weekend
    to do some inside stuff!

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make
    pasta with it, too.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder attachment. It works


    great

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer attachment that works really well.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > How do you "grind" or use processor to make hamburger?
    >
    > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most times I just grab the leanest looking thing
    > >on the shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and
    > >ground the other up for
    burgers
    > >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than the steaks as it usually is. It sure
    > >tastes alot better than the ground beef we can


    buy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off
    > >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no added fat.
    > >
    > >Brenda
    > >
    > >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >"]news:[email hidden]...
    > >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out which steak to grind

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> and then grind it (G)
    > >>
    > >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more wholesome.
    > >>
    > >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home, ground the beef


    myself,

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    Quoted message said:

    so
    > >I
    > >> >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I do the same as you


    at

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    Quoted message said:

    > >> >McDonalds, not that I go there much, but if I do I have the grilled
    > >chicken
    > >> >without sauce.
    > >> >
    > >> >Brenda
    > >> >
    > >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    > >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a hamburger at all since starting with WW.
    > >> >> Maybe, one but I really don't recall any.


    Even

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    Quoted message said:

    at
    > >> >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-boiled, so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's
    > >> >> on road trips, it has been the chicken
    sandwich
    > >> >> without sauce
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I still have all of


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >week's
    > >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    > >> >> >[email hidden]...
    > >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I
    could
    > >> >taste
    > >> >> >it
    > >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up
    with
    > >a
    > >> >> >burger
    > >> >> >> anyway.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> Julie
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > >> >> >> berlin.de...
    > >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and that is progress,


    hang

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    Quoted message said:

    in
    > >> >there,
    > >> >> >> Lee
    > >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    > >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    > >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    > >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    > >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel


    too

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    > >drained
    > >> >> >and
    > >> >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there that haven't healed.


    I

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    Quoted message said:

    > >don't
    > >> >> >think
    > >> >> >> > they
    > >> >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in time and the frequency


    of

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    Quoted message said:

    > >> >having
    > >> >> >to
    > >> >> >> > deal
    > >> >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't have to talk to


    him

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    Quoted message said:

    they
    > >> >> >> wouldn't
    > >> >> >> > be
    > >> >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    > >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain was
    too
    > >> >> >> overwelming
    > >> >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well, but went to Ben &
    Jerry's
    > >> >> >> > afterwards
    > >> >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I didn't enjoy as


    much

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    as I
    > >> >> >thought
    > >> >> >> I
    > >> >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I thought it would.
    > >Originally I
    > >> >> >> wanted
    > >> >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but changed plan due to


    time

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    > >> >> >limitation.
    > >> >> >> > I
    > >> >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving and I think I'll work


    it

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    in
    > >> >later
    > >> >> >in
    > >> >> >> > the
    > >> >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    > >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I had too much food


    and

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    we
    > >> >came
    > >> >> >> back
    > >> >> >> > 2
    > >> >> >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long night and tomorrow


    is

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    > >> >another
    > >> >> >day
    > >> >> >> > to
    > >> >> >> > > be OP.
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    > >> >> >> > > Julie
    > >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >
    > >> >>
    > >> >
    > >>
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    >


  11. It IS RAINING like heck here. And it to continue. I probably will attempt to drive and ski tomorrow.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as often as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I
    didn't appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I want to make sure I get the full
    benefit of it's use. I must mention though that I haven't used the pasta attachment as often as I'd
    like. I seem to use the sausage and grinding attachment much more. Perhaps this weekend DS and I
    will try the pasta attachment. It's supposed to rain like heck here so it would be a good weekend
    to do some inside stuff!

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make
    pasta with it, too.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder attachment. It works


    great

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer attachment that works really well.

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > How do you "grind" or use processor to make hamburger?
    >
    > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most times I just grab the leanest looking thing
    > >on the shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and
    > >ground the other up for
    burgers
    > >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than the steaks as it usually is. It sure
    > >tastes alot better than the ground beef we can


    buy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off
    > >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no added fat.
    > >
    > >Brenda
    > >
    > >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >"]news:[email hidden]...
    > >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out which steak to grind

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> and then grind it (G)
    > >>
    > >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more wholesome.
    > >>
    > >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home, ground the beef


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    > >> >
    > >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    > >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a hamburger at all since starting with WW.
    > >> >> Maybe, one but I really don't recall any.


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    > >> >> on road trips, it has been the chicken
    sandwich
    > >> >> without sauce
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    > >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I still have all of


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    > >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad I
    could
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    > >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something healthier. I ended up
    with
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    > >> >> >burger
    > >> >> >> anyway.
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    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> Julie
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    > >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    > >> >> >> > >
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  12. I love mine. It's very handy even just making cakes, cookies or bread, not that I do that often, but
    I find that mixing by hand is a killer on my wrists. I've had surgery on both hands a few times and
    they just don't seem to be as strong as they used to be, so the Kitchen Aid makes a big difference.
    I don't know how my grandma used to do all her baking without a mixer. Guess you get used to it.
    When we were kids she'd be up at 6 or so on Saturday morning, get out her large plastic baby bath
    and begin mixing up her large batch of bread. It consisted of about 20-24 loaves, kept her busy all
    day long. I'll never forget how great that bread was, all done by hand. She still makes it now, but
    usually 3-4 loaves at a time. I don't eat much of it now, can't stop once I get started!

    Brenda

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    Tell your husband that this gift will last forever, might make him feel


    even

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    better. I've had mine for over 25 years now, and it's still going strong.

    Joyce

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as often as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I
    didn't appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I want to make sure I get the full
    benefit of it's use.


    I

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    must mention though that I haven't used the pasta attachment as often as


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    like. I seem to use the sausage and grinding attachment much more.


    Perhaps

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    this weekend DS and I will try the pasta attachment. It's supposed to


    rain

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    like heck here so it would be a good weekend to do some inside stuff!

    Brenda

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    Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to
    make pasta with it, too.

    On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:07:02 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder attachment. It works


    great

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    >and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer attachment that


    works

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    >really well.
    >
    >Brenda
    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make hamburger?
    >>
    >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most times I just grab


    the

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    >> >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no added fat.
    >> >
    >> >Brenda
    >> >
    >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out which steak to


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    >> >> and then grind it (G)
    >> >>
    >> >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more wholesome.
    >> >>
    >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]>
    >> >> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home, ground the beef


    myself,

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    >> >> >without sauce.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Brenda
    >> >> >
    >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a hamburger at all


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    pretty

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    >> >> >> lowfat) At McDonald's on road trips, it has been the chicken
    >sandwich
    >> >> >> without sauce
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I still have all of


    this

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    >> >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
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    >> >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a burger so bad


    I

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    >> >> >> >> anyway.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> Julie
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    >> >> >> >> berlin.de...
    >> >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and that is progress,


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    >> >> >there,
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    >> >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    >> >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    >> >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
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    >> >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1, afterwhich I feel


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    frequency

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    >> >> >> >to
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    >> >> >> >> wouldn't
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    >> >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the emotional drain


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    >> >> >> >thought
    >> >> >> >> I
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  13. We may have gotten a bit of your residual storm. I don't
    remember it raining hard, but it was constant for about 24
    hours ... makes some for wonderful mud outside (and now
    inside). The winds though, nasty! Friday morning and
    afternoon we were having gusts up to 60MPH - power
    flickering on and off constantly - really put my UPS backup
    system to a good workout. <G> I also found that 60mph gusts
    and a 130 pound woman don't get along together well. I don't
    remember having this much trouble walking before. LOL It's
    calm out once again, nice and sunny today, but cold again.
    Temps back down to the 40's. Springtime in the midwest. <G>

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    It IS RAINING like heck here. And it to continue. I
    probably will attempt to drive and ski tomorrow.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as often
    as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I didn't
    appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I
    want to make sure I get the full benefit of it's use. I
    must mention though that I haven't used the pasta
    attachment as often as I'd like. I seem to use the
    sausage and grinding attachment much more. Perhaps this
    weekend DS and I will try the pasta attachment. It's
    supposed to rain like heck here so it would be a good
    weekend to do some inside stuff!

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it
    in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make pasta with
    it, too.

    On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:07:02 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder
    >attachment. It works


    great

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    >and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer
    >attachment that works really well.
    >
    >Brenda
    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make
    >> hamburger?
    >>
    >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most
    >> >times I just grab the leanest looking thing on the
    >> >shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut
    >> >it into quarters, froze three and ground the other
    >> >up for
    >burgers
    >> >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than
    >> >the steaks as it usually is. It sure tastes alot
    >> >better than the ground beef we can


    buy

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    >off
    >> >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no
    >> >added fat.
    >> >
    >> >Brenda
    >> >
    >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out
    >> >> which steak to grind

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    >> >> and then grind it (G)
    >> >>
    >> >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more
    >> >> wholesome.
    >> >>
    >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda
    >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home,
    >> >> >ground the beef


    myself,

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    >so
    >> >I
    >> >> >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I
    >> >> >do the same as you


    at

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    >> >> >McDonalds, not that I go there much, but if I do
    >> >> >I have the grilled
    >> >chicken
    >> >> >without sauce.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Brenda
    >> >> >
    >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >> >> >message news:qe4c40ln12eobqkvfa5m7jav0td9nep9gc@-
    >> >> >4ax.com...
    >> >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a
    >> >> >> hamburger at all since starting with WW. Maybe,
    >> >> >> one but I really don't recall any.


    Even

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    >at
    >> >> >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-
    >> >> >> boiled, so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's on road
    >> >> >> trips, it has been the chicken
    >sandwich
    >> >> >> without sauce
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss
    >> >> >> Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I
    >> >> >> >still have all of


    this

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    >> >week's
    >> >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]>
    >> >> >> >wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    >> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    >> >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a
    >> >> >> >> burger so bad I
    >could
    >> >> >taste
    >> >> >> >it
    >> >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something
    >> >> >> >> healthier. I ended up
    >with
    >> >a
    >> >> >> >burger
    >> >> >> >> anyway.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> Julie
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]>
    >> >> >> >> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    >> >> >> >> berlin.de...
    >> >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and
    >> >> >> >> > that is progress,


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    >> >> >there,
    >> >> >> >> Lee
    >> >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >> >> >> >> > message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    >> >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    >> >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1,
    >> >> >> >> > > afterwhich I feel


    too

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    >> >drained
    >> >> >> >and
    >> >> >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there that
    >> >> >> >> > > haven't healed.


    I

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    >> >> >> >think
    >> >> >> >> > they
    >> >> >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in time
    >> >> >> >> > > and the frequency


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    >> >> >> >to
    >> >> >> >> > deal
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    >> >> >> >> wouldn't
    >> >> >> >> > be
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    >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the
    >> >> >> >> > > emotional drain was
    >too
    >> >> >> >> overwelming
    >> >> >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well,
    >> >> >> >> > > but went to Ben &
    >Jerry's
    >> >> >> >> > afterwards
    >> >> >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I
    >> >> >> >> > > didn't enjoy as


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    >> >> >> >thought
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    >> >> >> >> > > changed plan due to


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  14. I swear, there is nothing that is as good as *real* homemade
    bread. The breadmachine stuff is good, but somehow just not
    the same as the loaves that are kneaded and kneaded and
    kneaded. <G> I don't use the kitchenaid for much anymore, it
    resides in the basement due to the amount of space I am
    unwilling to give it in my kitchen or on my countertop. I
    did relent and purchase a standard hand mixer, is nice for
    the occassional cake, potatoes or whatever. The kitchenaid
    is more for heavy duty things like cookies.

    Joyce

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I love mine. It's very handy even just making cakes,
    cookies or bread, not that I do that often, but I find that
    mixing by hand is a killer on my wrists. I've had surgery
    on both hands a few times and they just don't seem to be as
    strong as they used to be, so the Kitchen Aid makes a big
    difference. I don't know how my grandma used to do all her
    baking without a mixer. Guess you get used to it. When we
    were kids she'd be up at 6 or so on Saturday morning, get
    out her large plastic baby bath and begin mixing up her
    large batch of bread. It consisted of about 20-24 loaves,
    kept her busy all day long. I'll never forget how great
    that bread was, all done by hand. She still makes it now,
    but usually 3-4 loaves at a time. I don't eat much of it
    now, can't stop once I get started!

    Brenda

    "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Tell your husband that this gift will last forever, might
    make him feel


    even

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    better. I've had mine for over 25 years now, and it's
    still going strong.

    Joyce

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as often
    as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I didn't
    appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I
    want to make sure I get the full benefit of it's use.


    I

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    must mention though that I haven't used the pasta
    attachment as often as


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    like. I seem to use the sausage and grinding attachment
    much more.


    Perhaps

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    this weekend DS and I will try the pasta attachment.
    It's supposed to


    rain

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    like heck here so it would be a good weekend to do some
    inside stuff!

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it
    > in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make pasta with
    > it, too.
    >
    > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:07:02 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder
    > >attachment. It works
    great
    > >and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer
    > >attachment that


    works

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    > >really well.
    > >
    > >Brenda
    > >
    > >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >"]news:[email hidden]...
    > >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make
    > >> hamburger?
    > >>
    > >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    > >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most
    > >> >times I just grab


    the

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    > >> >leanest looking thing on the shelf. Last weekend I
    > >> >bought a nice


    lean

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    > >> >roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and
    > >> >ground the other up


    for

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    > >burgers
    > >> >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper
    > >> >than the steaks as


    it

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    > >> >usually is. It sure tastes alot better than the
    > >> >ground beef we can
    buy
    > >off
    > >> >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no
    > >> >added fat.
    > >> >
    > >> >Brenda
    > >> >
    > >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > >> >message news:5ohd401tqfem1ornqh3600t0rn7fofj08a@4-
    > >> >ax.com...
    > >> >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out
    > >> >> which steak to


    grind

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    > >> >> and then grind it (G)
    > >> >>
    > >> >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more
    > >> >> wholesome.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda
    > >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home,
    > >> >> >ground the beef
    myself,
    > >so
    > >> >I
    > >> >> >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I
    > >> >> >do the same as


    you

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    at
    > >> >> >McDonalds, not that I go there much, but if I
    > >> >> >do I have the


    grilled

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    > >> >chicken
    > >> >> >without sauce.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Brenda
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > >> >> >message news:qe4c40ln12eobqkvfa5m7jav0td9nep9g-
    > >> >> >[email hidden]...
    > >> >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a
    > >> >> >> hamburger at all


    since

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    > >> >> >> starting with WW. Maybe, one but I really
    > >> >> >> don't recall any.
    Even
    > >at
    > >> >> >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-
    > >> >> >> boiled, so


    pretty

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    > >> >> >> lowfat) At McDonald's on road trips, it has
    > >> >> >> been the chicken
    > >sandwich
    > >> >> >> without sauce
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss
    > >> >> >> Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I
    > >> >> >> >still have all of
    this
    > >> >week's
    > >> >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur
    > >> >> >> ><[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    > >> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    > >> >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting
    > >> >> >> >> a burger so bad


    I

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    > >could
    > >> >> >taste
    > >> >> >> >it
    > >> >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something
    > >> >> >> >> healthier. I ended


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    > >with
    > >> >a
    > >> >> >> >burger
    > >> >> >> >> anyway.
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> Julie
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]>
    > >> >> >> >> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > >> >> >> >> berlin.de...
    > >> >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and
    > >> >> >> >> > that is progress,
    hang
    > >in
    > >> >> >there,
    > >> >> >> >> Lee
    > >> >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > >> >> >> >> > message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    > >> >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    > >> >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1,
    > >> >> >> >> > > afterwhich I feel
    too
    > >> >drained
    > >> >> >> >and
    > >> >> >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there
    > >> >> >> >> > > that haven't


    healed.

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    > >> >don't
    > >> >> >> >think
    > >> >> >> >> > they
    > >> >> >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in
    > >> >> >> >> > > time and the


    frequency

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    > >> >> >having
    > >> >> >> >to
    > >> >> >> >> > deal
    > >> >> >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't
    > >> >> >> >> > > have to talk to
    him
    > >they
    > >> >> >> >> wouldn't
    > >> >> >> >> > be
    > >> >> >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the
    > >> >> >> >> > > emotional drain


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    > >> >> >> >> overwelming
    > >> >> >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well,
    > >> >> >> >> > > but went to Ben


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    > >Jerry's
    > >> >> >> >> > afterwards
    > >> >> >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I
    > >> >> >> >> > > didn't enjoy as
    much
    > >as I
    > >> >> >> >thought
    > >> >> >> >> I
    > >> >> >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I
    > >> >> >> >> > > thought it would.
    > >> >Originally I
    > >> >> >> >> wanted
    > >> >> >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but
    > >> >> >> >> > > changed plan due to
    time
    > >> >> >> >limitation.
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    > >> >> >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving
    > >> >> >> >> > > and I think I'll


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    > >in
    > >> >> >later
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    > >> >> >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because
    > >> >> >> >> > > I had too much


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    > >> >> >came
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  15. Well, you can have this newer storm, now, too!

    But be careful playing human kite. Oh, a new toy to
    consider - UPS system. Actually, we have very few power
    failures, luckily.

    Joyce said:

    We may have gotten a bit of your residual storm. I don't
    remember it raining hard, but it was constant for about 24
    hours ... makes some for wonderful mud outside (and now
    inside). The winds though, nasty! Friday morning and
    afternoon we were having gusts up to 60MPH - power
    flickering on and off constantly - really put my UPS backup
    system to a good workout. <G> I also found that 60mph gusts
    and a 130 pound woman don't get along together well. I
    don't remember having this much trouble walking before. LOL
    It's calm out once again, nice and sunny today, but cold
    again. Temps back down to the 40's. Springtime in the
    midwest. <G>

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    It IS RAINING like heck here. And it to continue. I
    probably will attempt to drive and ski tomorrow.

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as often
    as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I didn't
    appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I
    want to make sure I get the full benefit of it's use. I
    must mention though that I haven't used the pasta
    attachment as often as I'd like. I seem to use the
    sausage and grinding attachment much more. Perhaps this
    weekend DS and I will try the pasta attachment. It's
    supposed to rain like heck here so it would be a good
    weekend to do some inside stuff!

    Brenda

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it
    > in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make pasta with
    > it, too.
    >
    > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:07:02 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder
    > >attachment. It works
    great
    > >and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer
    > >attachment that works really well.
    > >
    > >Brenda
    > >
    > >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >"]news:[email hidden]...
    > >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make
    > >> hamburger?
    > >>
    > >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    > >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most
    > >> >times I just grab the leanest looking thing on the
    > >> >shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast, cut
    > >> >it into quarters, froze three and ground the other
    > >> >up for
    > >burgers
    > >> >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper than
    > >> >the steaks as it usually is. It sure tastes alot
    > >> >better than the ground beef we can
    buy
    > >off
    > >> >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no
    > >> >added fat.
    > >> >
    > >> >Brenda
    > >> >
    > >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    > >> >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out
    > >> >> which steak to grind

    > >> >> and then grind it (G)
    > >> >>
    > >> >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more
    > >> >> wholesome.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda
    > >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home,
    > >> >> >ground the beef
    myself,
    > >so
    > >> >I
    > >> >> >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I
    > >> >> >do the same as you
    at
    > >> >> >McDonalds, not that I go there much, but if I do
    > >> >> >I have the grilled
    > >> >chicken
    > >> >> >without sauce.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Brenda
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > >> >> >message news:qe4c40ln12eobqkvfa5m7jav0td9nep9gc-
    > >> >> >@4ax.com...
    > >> >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a
    > >> >> >> hamburger at all since starting with WW.
    > >> >> >> Maybe, one but I really don't recall any.
    Even
    > >at
    > >> >> >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-
    > >> >> >> boiled, so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's on
    > >> >> >> road trips, it has been the chicken
    > >sandwich
    > >> >> >> without sauce
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss
    > >> >> >> Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I
    > >> >> >> >still have all of
    this
    > >> >week's
    > >> >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur <[email hidden]>
    > >> >> >> >wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    > >> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    > >> >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting a
    > >> >> >> >> burger so bad I
    > >could
    > >> >> >taste
    > >> >> >> >it
    > >> >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something
    > >> >> >> >> healthier. I ended up
    > >with
    > >> >a
    > >> >> >> >burger
    > >> >> >> >> anyway.
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> Julie
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]>
    > >> >> >> >> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > >> >> >> >> berlin.de...
    > >> >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and
    > >> >> >> >> > that is progress,
    hang
    > >in
    > >> >> >there,
    > >> >> >> >> Lee
    > >> >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > >> >> >> >> > message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    > >> >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    > >> >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1,
    > >> >> >> >> > > afterwhich I feel
    too
    > >> >drained
    > >> >> >> >and
    > >> >> >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there that
    > >> >> >> >> > > haven't healed.
    I
    > >> >don't
    > >> >> >> >think
    > >> >> >> >> > they
    > >> >> >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in
    > >> >> >> >> > > time and the frequency
    of
    > >> >> >having
    > >> >> >> >to
    > >> >> >> >> > deal
    > >> >> >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't
    > >> >> >> >> > > have to talk to
    him
    > >they
    > >> >> >> >> wouldn't
    > >> >> >> >> > be
    > >> >> >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the
    > >> >> >> >> > > emotional drain was
    > >too
    > >> >> >> >> overwelming
    > >> >> >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well,
    > >> >> >> >> > > but went to Ben &
    > >Jerry's
    > >> >> >> >> > afterwards
    > >> >> >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I
    > >> >> >> >> > > didn't enjoy as
    much
    > >as I
    > >> >> >> >thought
    > >> >> >> >> I
    > >> >> >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I
    > >> >> >> >> > > thought it would.
    > >> >Originally I
    > >> >> >> >> wanted
    > >> >> >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but
    > >> >> >> >> > > changed plan due to
    time
    > >> >> >> >limitation.
    > >> >> >> >> > I
    > >> >> >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving and
    > >> >> >> >> > > I think I'll work
    it
    > >in
    > >> >> >later
    > >> >> >> >in
    > >> >> >> >> > the
    > >> >> >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because I
    > >> >> >> >> > > had too much food
    and
    > >we
    > >> >> >came
    > >> >> >> >> back
    > >> >> >> >> > 2
    > >> >> >> >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long
    > >> >> >> >> > > night and tomorrow
    is
    > >> >> >another
    > >> >> >> >day
    > >> >> >> >> > to
    > >> >> >> >> > > be OP.
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > > Julie
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> > >
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >
    > >> >>
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >
    >


  16. I believe mine is made by APC - have had it now for maybe 3
    years and still going strong. I was told by my guru friend
    that this should be the first thing I invest in (after I had
    lost a bunch of [censored] in a power outage). Basically, a surge
    protector with battery backup so your computer doesn't shut
    down when the power goes out. I think mine gives me
    something like 10 minutes to save data, exit and shut down
    safely. It's nice, especially when that power is constantly
    surging on and off - computer just keeps going without so
    much as a flicker. When in battery mode the thing beeps,
    letting you know (guess in case you can't see that the house
    is now dark). This has come in handy though, when the power
    dies in the family room and I'm elsewhere ... I can hear
    that computer beeping away and know to either check the
    circuit breakers or whatever. It also came with some
    software, not sure why. I never installed it, only use the
    thing as a battery backup - don't see why I need to control
    it from the computer. <g>

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    Well, you can have this newer storm, now, too!

    But be careful playing human kite. Oh, a new toy to
    consider - UPS system. Actually, we have very few power
    failures, luckily.

    Joyce said:

    We may have gotten a bit of your residual storm. I don't
    remember it raining hard, but it was constant for about 24
    hours ... makes some for wonderful mud outside (and now
    inside). The winds though, nasty! Friday morning and
    afternoon we were having gusts up to 60MPH - power
    flickering on and off constantly - really put my UPS
    backup system to a good workout. <G> I also found that
    60mph gusts and a 130 pound woman don't get along together
    well. I don't remember having this much trouble walking
    before. LOL It's calm out once again, nice and sunny
    today, but cold again. Temps back down to the 40's.
    Springtime in the midwest. <G>

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    It IS RAINING like heck here. And it to continue. I
    probably will attempt to drive and ski tomorrow.

    On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:03:04 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as often
    >as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I didn't
    >appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I
    >want to make sure I get the full benefit of it's use. I
    >must mention though that I haven't used the pasta
    >attachment as often as I'd like. I seem to use the
    >sausage and grinding attachment much more. Perhaps this
    >weekend DS and I will try the pasta attachment. It's
    >supposed to rain like heck here so it would be a good
    >weekend to do some inside stuff!
    >
    >Brenda
    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used it
    >> in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make pasta with
    >> it, too.
    >>
    >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:07:02 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder
    >> >attachment. It works
    >great
    >> >and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer
    >> >attachment that works really well.
    >> >
    >> >Brenda
    >> >
    >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make
    >> >> hamburger?
    >> >>
    >> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most
    >> >> >times I just grab the leanest looking thing on the
    >> >> >shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean roast,
    >> >> >cut it into quarters, froze three and ground the
    >> >> >other up for
    >> >burgers
    >> >> >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper
    >> >> >than the steaks as it usually is. It sure tastes
    >> >> >alot better than the ground beef we can
    >buy
    >> >off
    >> >> >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no
    >> >> >added fat.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Brenda
    >> >> >
    >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >> >> >message news:5ohd401tqfem1ornqh3600t0rn7fofj08a@4-
    >> >> >ax.com...
    >> >> >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out
    >> >> >> which steak to grind
    >
    >> >> >> and then grind it (G)
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more
    >> >> >> wholesome.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda
    >> >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home,
    >> >> >> >ground the beef
    >myself,
    >> >so
    >> >> >I
    >> >> >> >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed. I
    >> >> >> >do the same as you
    >at
    >> >> >> >McDonalds, not that I go there much, but if I
    >> >> >> >do I have the grilled
    >> >> >chicken
    >> >> >> >without sauce.
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Brenda
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >> >> >> >message news:qe4c40ln12eobqkvfa5m7jav0td9nep9g-
    >> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    >> >> >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a
    >> >> >> >> hamburger at all since starting with WW.
    >> >> >> >> Maybe, one but I really don't recall any.
    >Even
    >> >at
    >> >> >> >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs (pre-
    >> >> >> >> boiled, so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's on
    >> >> >> >> road trips, it has been the chicken
    >> >sandwich
    >> >> >> >> without sauce
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss
    >> >> >> >> Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I
    >> >> >> >> >still have all of
    >this
    >> >> >week's
    >> >> >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur
    >> >> >> >> ><[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    >> >> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    >> >> >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting
    >> >> >> >> >> a burger so bad I
    >> >could
    >> >> >> >taste
    >> >> >> >> >it
    >> >> >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something
    >> >> >> >> >> healthier. I ended up
    >> >with
    >> >> >a
    >> >> >> >> >burger
    >> >> >> >> >> anyway.
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> Julie
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]>
    >> >> >> >> >> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    >> >> >> >> >> berlin.de...
    >> >> >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and
    >> >> >> >> >> > that is progress,
    >hang
    >> >in
    >> >> >> >there,
    >> >> >> >> >> Lee
    >> >> >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >> >> >> >> >> > message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    >> >> >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    >> >> >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    >> >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    >> >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1,
    >> >> >> >> >> > > afterwhich I feel
    >too
    >> >> >drained
    >> >> >> >> >and
    >> >> >> >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there
    >> >> >> >> >> > > that haven't healed.
    >I
    >> >> >don't
    >> >> >> >> >think
    >> >> >> >> >> > they
    >> >> >> >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in
    >> >> >> >> >> > > time and the frequency
    >of
    >> >> >> >having
    >> >> >> >> >to
    >> >> >> >> >> > deal
    >> >> >> >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I didn't
    >> >> >> >> >> > > have to talk to
    >him
    >> >they
    >> >> >> >> >> wouldn't
    >> >> >> >> >> > be
    >> >> >> >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    >> >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because the
    >> >> >> >> >> > > emotional drain was
    >> >too
    >> >> >> >> >> overwelming
    >> >> >> >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well,
    >> >> >> >> >> > > but went to Ben &
    >> >Jerry's
    >> >> >> >> >> > afterwards
    >> >> >> >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that I
    >> >> >> >> >> > > didn't enjoy as
    >much
    >> >as I
    >> >> >> >> >thought
    >> >> >> >> >> I
    >> >> >> >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I
    >> >> >> >> >> > > thought it would.
    >> >> >Originally I
    >> >> >> >> >> wanted
    >> >> >> >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but
    >> >> >> >> >> > > changed plan due to
    >time
    >> >> >> >> >limitation.
    >> >> >> >> >> > I
    >> >> >> >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving
    >> >> >> >> >> > > and I think I'll work
    >it
    >> >in
    >> >> >> >later
    >> >> >> >> >in
    >> >> >> >> >> > the
    >> >> >> >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    >> >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because
    >> >> >> >> >> > > I had too much food
    >and
    >> >we
    >> >> >> >came
    >> >> >> >> >> back
    >> >> >> >> >> > 2
    >> >> >> >> >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long
    >> >> >> >> >> > > night and tomorrow
    >is
    >> >> >> >another
    >> >> >> >> >day
    >> >> >> >> >> > to
    >> >> >> >> >> > > be OP.
    >> >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> >> > > Julie
    >> >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >
    >> >>
    >> >
    >>


  17. Oh, big brother, UPS. That is probably what it does -
    feedback mechanism to shut it down if you are not around.

    Joyce said:

    I believe mine is made by APC - have had it now for maybe 3
    years and still going strong. I was told by my guru friend
    that this should be the first thing I invest in (after I
    had lost a bunch of [censored] in a power outage). Basically, a
    surge protector with battery backup so your computer
    doesn't shut down when the power goes out. I think mine
    gives me something like 10 minutes to save data, exit and
    shut down safely. It's nice, especially when that power is
    constantly surging on and off - computer just keeps going
    without so much as a flicker. When in battery mode the
    thing beeps, letting you know (guess in case you can't see
    that the house is now dark). This has come in handy though,
    when the power dies in the family room and I'm elsewhere
    ... I can hear that computer beeping away and know to
    either check the circuit breakers or whatever. It also came
    with some software, not sure why. I never installed it,
    only use the thing as a battery backup - don't see why I
    need to control it from the computer. <g>

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    Well, you can have this newer storm, now, too!

    But be careful playing human kite. Oh, a new toy to
    consider - UPS system. Actually, we have very few power
    failures, luckily.

    Joyce said:

    We may have gotten a bit of your residual storm. I don't
    remember it raining hard, but it was constant for about
    24 hours ... makes some for wonderful mud outside (and
    now inside). The winds though, nasty! Friday morning and
    afternoon we were having gusts up to 60MPH - power
    flickering on and off constantly - really put my UPS
    backup system to a good workout. <G> I also found that
    60mph gusts and a 130 pound woman don't get along
    together well. I don't remember having this much trouble
    walking before. LOL It's calm out once again, nice and
    sunny today, but cold again. Temps back down to the 40's.
    Springtime in the midwest. <G>

    Joyce

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:15:04 -0800, Fred
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >It IS RAINING like heck here. And it to continue. I
    >probably will attempt to drive and ski tomorrow.
    >
    >On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:03:04 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    ><[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as
    >>often as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I didn't
    >>appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was I
    >>want to make sure I get the full benefit of it's use. I
    >>must mention though that I haven't used the pasta
    >>attachment as often as I'd like. I seem to use the
    >>sausage and grinding attachment much more. Perhaps this
    >>weekend DS and I will try the pasta attachment. It's
    >>supposed to rain like heck here so it would be a good
    >>weekend to do some inside stuff!
    >>
    >>Brenda
    >>
    >>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>"]news:[email hidden]...
    >>> Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used
    >>> it in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make pasta
    >>> with it, too.
    >>>
    >>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:07:02 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    >>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder
    >>> >attachment. It works
    >>great
    >>> >and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer
    >>> >attachment that works really well.
    >>> >
    >>> >Brenda
    >>> >
    >>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >>> >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make
    >>> >> hamburger?
    >>> >>
    >>> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda
    >>> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>> >>
    >>> >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most
    >>> >> >times I just grab the leanest looking thing on
    >>> >> >the shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean
    >>> >> >roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and
    >>> >> >ground the other up for
    >>> >burgers
    >>> >> >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper
    >>> >> >than the steaks as it usually is. It sure tastes
    >>> >> >alot better than the ground beef we can
    >>buy
    >>> >off
    >>> >> >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's no
    >>> >> >added fat.
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> >Brenda
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>> >> >message news:5ohd401tqfem1ornqh3600t0rn7fofj08a@-
    >>> >> >4ax.com...
    >>> >> >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out
    >>> >> >> which steak to grind
    >>
    >>> >> >> and then grind it (G)
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and more
    >>> >> >> wholesome.
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda
    >>> >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]>
    >>> >> >> wrote:
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home,
    >>> >> >> >ground the beef
    >>myself,
    >>> >so
    >>> >> >I
    >>> >> >> >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed.
    >>> >> >> >I do the same as you
    >>at
    >>> >> >> >McDonalds, not that I go there much, but if I
    >>> >> >> >do I have the grilled
    >>> >> >chicken
    >>> >> >> >without sauce.
    >>> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >Brenda
    >>> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>> >> >> >message news:qe4c40ln12eobqkvfa5m7jav0td9nep9-
    >>> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    >>> >> >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a
    >>> >> >> >> hamburger at all since starting with WW.
    >>> >> >> >> Maybe, one but I really don't recall any.
    >>Even
    >>> >at
    >>> >> >> >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs
    >>> >> >> >> (pre-boiled, so pretty lowfat) At McDonald's
    >>> >> >> >> on road trips, it has been the chicken
    >>> >sandwich
    >>> >> >> >> without sauce
    >>> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss
    >>> >> >> >> Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI, I
    >>> >> >> >> >still have all of
    >>this
    >>> >> >week's
    >>> >> >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur
    >>> >> >> >> ><[email hidden]> wrote in message news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    >>> >> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    >>> >> >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was wanting
    >>> >> >> >> >> a burger so bad I
    >>> >could
    >>> >> >> >taste
    >>> >> >> >> >it
    >>> >> >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something
    >>> >> >> >> >> healthier. I ended up
    >>> >with
    >>> >> >a
    >>> >> >> >> >burger
    >>> >> >> >> >> anyway.
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >> Julie
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >> "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]>
    >>> >> >> >> >> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    >>> >> >> >> >> berlin.de...
    >>> >> >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and
    >>> >> >> >> >> > that is progress,
    >>hang
    >>> >in
    >>> >> >> >there,
    >>> >> >> >> >> Lee
    >>> >> >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>> >> >> >> >> > message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    >>> >> >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    >>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day today.
    >>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with dhv1,
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > afterwhich I feel
    >>too
    >>> >> >drained
    >>> >> >> >> >and
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > that haven't healed.
    >>I
    >>> >> >don't
    >>> >> >> >> >think
    >>> >> >> >> >> > they
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > time and the frequency
    >>of
    >>> >> >> >having
    >>> >> >> >> >to
    >>> >> >> >> >> > deal
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > didn't have to talk to
    >>him
    >>> >they
    >>> >> >> >> >> wouldn't
    >>> >> >> >> >> > be
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    >>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > the emotional drain was
    >>> >too
    >>> >> >> >> >> overwelming
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went well,
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > but went to Ben &
    >>> >Jerry's
    >>> >> >> >> >> > afterwards
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > I didn't enjoy as
    >>much
    >>> >as I
    >>> >> >> >> >thought
    >>> >> >> >> >> I
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > thought it would.
    >>> >> >Originally I
    >>> >> >> >> >> wanted
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > changed plan due to
    >>time
    >>> >> >> >> >limitation.
    >>> >> >> >> >> > I
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > and I think I'll work
    >>it
    >>> >in
    >>> >> >> >later
    >>> >> >> >> >in
    >>> >> >> >> >> > the
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    >>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable because
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > I had too much food
    >>and
    >>> >we
    >>> >> >> >came
    >>> >> >> >> >> back
    >>> >> >> >> >> > 2
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a long
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > night and tomorrow
    >>is
    >>> >> >> >another
    >>> >> >> >> >day
    >>> >> >> >> >> > to
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > be OP.
    >>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>> >> >> >> >> > > Julie
    >>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >
    >>> >>
    >>> >
    >>>

  18. I love *real* homemade bread, so as a result, don't make it
    very often. I do break down once in awhile and mix up a
    batch of 4 loaves in my kitchenaid, but not for the last
    year or so. I don't have a standard hand mixer, used to but
    gave it so my sister several years ago. I may get another
    one some day as they are very handy for things like cakes,
    not that I do the cake thing often either.

    I did make an anelfood cake today for dessert and we had it
    with strawberry and peach slices. Some of us had whipped
    cream, but my sister and I didn't!

    Brenda

    "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    I swear, there is nothing that is as good as *real*
    homemade bread. The breadmachine stuff is good, but
    somehow just not the same as the loaves


    that are

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    kneaded and kneaded and kneaded. <G> I don't use the
    kitchenaid for much


    anymore,

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    it resides in the basement due to the amount of space I am
    unwilling to


    give it in

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    my kitchen or on my countertop. I did relent and purchase
    a standard hand


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    is nice for the occassional cake, potatoes or whatever.
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    more

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    for heavy duty things like cookies.

    Joyce

    Brenda Hammond said:

    I love mine. It's very handy even just making cakes,
    cookies or bread,


    not

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    that I do that often, but I find that mixing by hand is a
    killer on my wrists. I've had surgery on both hands a few
    times and they just don't


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    to be as strong as they used to be, so the Kitchen Aid
    makes a big difference. I don't know how my grandma used
    to do all her baking


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    mixer. Guess you get used to it. When we were kids she'd
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    on Saturday morning, get out her large plastic baby bath
    and begin mixing


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    her large batch of bread. It consisted of about 20-24
    loaves, kept her


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    all day long. I'll never forget how great that bread was,
    all done by


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    She still makes it now, but usually 3-4 loaves at a time.
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    of it now, can't stop once I get started!

    Brenda

    "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    might make him feel


    even

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    better. I've had mine for over 25 years now, and it's
    still going


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    Joyce

    On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:03:04 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as
    >often as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I didn't
    >appreciate the gift, considering


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    >expensive it was I want to make sure I get the full
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    >It's supposed to


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    >like heck here so it would be a good weekend to do
    >some inside stuff!
    >
    >Brenda
    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used
    >> it in years and


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    >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:07:02 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
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    >> >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder
    >> >attachment. It


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    >> >
    >> >Brenda
    >> >
    >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make
    >> >> hamburger?
    >> >>
    >> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda
    >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most
    >> >> >times I just


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    >> >> >Brenda
    >> >> >
    >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >> >> >message news:5ohd401tqfem1ornqh3600t0rn7fofj08a-
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    >> >> >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and
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    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda
    >> >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]>
    >> >> >> wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home,
    >> >> >> >ground the beef
    >myself,
    >> >so
    >> >> >I
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    >> >> >> >I do the same


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    >> >> >> >without sauce.
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    >> >> >> >Brenda
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    >> >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    >> >> >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI,
    >> >> >> >> >I still have all


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    >> >> >> >> >> > >
    >> >> >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day
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    >> >> >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with
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  19. Joyce the software that your APC came with is probably
    software that will shut your computer off for you
    automatically if you aren't home in the event of a power
    outage. Most of those units come with that software now.
    Handy if you leave your computer on while you're not home.

    Brenda

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    strong. I was told by my guru friend that this should be
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    in (after I had lost a bunch of [censored] in a power outage).
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    goes out. I think mine gives me something like 10 minutes
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    shut down safely. It's nice, especially when that power is
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    and off - computer just keeps going without so much as a
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    don't see why I need to control it from the computer. <g>

    Joyce

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 08:10:59 -0800, Fred
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    We may have gotten a bit of your residual storm. I don't
    remember it


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    put my UPS backup system to a good workout. <G> I also
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    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:15:04 -0800, Fred
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    >
    >On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:03:04 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    ><[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as
    >>often as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I didn't
    >>appreciate the gift, considering


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    >>> >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder
    >>> >attachment. It


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    >>> >Brenda
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    >>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>> >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make
    >>> >> hamburger?
    >>> >>
    >>> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda
    >>> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    >>> >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most
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    >>> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    >>> >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]>
    >>> >> >> wrote:
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    >>> >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home,
    >>> >> >> >ground the beef
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    >>> >> >> >> >I still have all


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  20. More than likely. I probably didn't see the necessity in
    running something like that. If I'm gone, the computer may
    be left on but all programs are shut down. It probably would
    be a good thing to run in the background, I'm just too lazy
    and hate having one more thing sucking up drive space and
    memory. <G>

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    Oh, big brother, UPS. That is probably what it does -
    feedback mechanism to shut it down if you are not around.

    Joyce said:

    I believe mine is made by APC - have had it now for maybe
    3 years and still going strong. I was told by my guru
    friend that this should be the first thing I invest in
    (after I had lost a bunch of [censored] in a power outage).
    Basically, a surge protector with battery backup so your
    computer doesn't shut down when the power goes out. I
    think mine gives me something like 10 minutes to save
    data, exit and shut down safely. It's nice, especially
    when that power is constantly surging on and off -
    computer just keeps going without so much as a flicker.
    When in battery mode the thing beeps, letting you know
    (guess in case you can't see that the house is now dark).
    This has come in handy though, when the power dies in the
    family room and I'm elsewhere ... I can hear that computer
    beeping away and know to either check the circuit breakers
    or whatever. It also came with some software, not sure
    why. I never installed it, only use the thing as a battery
    backup - don't see why I need to control it from the
    computer. <g>

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    Well, you can have this newer storm, now, too!

    But be careful playing human kite. Oh, a new toy to
    consider - UPS system. Actually, we have very few power
    failures, luckily.

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 01:57:19 -0600, Joyce
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >We may have gotten a bit of your residual storm. I don't
    >remember it raining hard, but it was constant for about
    >24 hours ... makes some for wonderful mud outside (and
    >now inside). The winds though, nasty! Friday morning and
    >afternoon we were having gusts up to 60MPH - power
    >flickering on and off constantly - really put my UPS
    >backup system to a good workout. <G> I also found that
    >60mph gusts and a 130 pound woman don't get along
    >together well. I don't remember having this much trouble
    >walking before. LOL It's calm out once again, nice and
    >sunny today, but cold again. Temps back down to the
    >40's. Springtime in the midwest. <G>
    >
    >Joyce
    >
    >On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:15:04 -0800, Fred
    ><[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>It IS RAINING like heck here. And it to continue. I
    >>probably will attempt to drive and ski tomorrow.
    >>
    >>On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:03:04 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    >><[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>I try to use my Kitchen Aid and the attachments as
    >>>often as I can. I wouldn't want DH to think I didn't
    >>>appreciate the gift, considering how expensive it was
    >>>I want to make sure I get the full benefit of it's
    >>>use. I must mention though that I haven't used the
    >>>pasta attachment as often as I'd like. I seem to use
    >>>the sausage and grinding attachment much more. Perhaps
    >>>this weekend DS and I will try the pasta attachment.
    >>>It's supposed to rain like heck here so it would be a
    >>>good weekend to do some inside stuff!
    >>>
    >>>Brenda
    >>>
    >>>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>>"]news:[email hidden]...
    >>>> Oh, I have that attachment, too. Just have not used
    >>>> it in years and I do mean YEARS. Use to make pasta
    >>>> with it, too.
    >>>>
    >>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:07:02 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
    >>>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> >I have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a meat grinder
    >>>> >attachment. It works
    >>>great
    >>>> >and I use it often. It also has a sausage stuffer
    >>>> >attachment that works really well.
    >>>> >
    >>>> >Brenda
    >>>> >
    >>>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >>>> >> How do you "grind" or use processor to make
    >>>> >> hamburger?
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:54:30 -0800, "Brenda
    >>>> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >> >I'm not too picky either about which steak, most
    >>>> >> >times I just grab the leanest looking thing on
    >>>> >> >the shelf. Last weekend I bought a nice lean
    >>>> >> >roast, cut it into quarters, froze three and
    >>>> >> >ground the other up for
    >>>> >burgers
    >>>> >> >(that was Saturday). The roast was way cheaper
    >>>> >> >than the steaks as it usually is. It sure tastes
    >>>> >> >alot better than the ground beef we can
    >>>buy
    >>>> >off
    >>>> >> >the shelf, and the best part is I know there's
    >>>> >> >no added fat.
    >>>> >> >
    >>>> >> >Brenda
    >>>> >> >
    >>>> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>>> >> >message news:5ohd401tqfem1ornqh3600t0rn7fofj08a-
    >>>> >> >@4ax.com...
    >>>> >> >> I guess I don't desire it enough to figure out
    >>>> >> >> which steak to grind
    >>>
    >>>> >> >> and then grind it (G)
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> I could imagine it would be very fresh and
    >>>> >> >> more wholesome.
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:40:25 -0800, "Brenda
    >>>> >> >> Hammond" <[email hidden]>
    >>>> >> >> wrote:
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >I've had the odd hamburger, but made at home,
    >>>> >> >> >ground the beef
    >>>myself,
    >>>> >so
    >>>> >> >I
    >>>> >> >> >know it's very lean and broiled or barbequed.
    >>>> >> >> >I do the same as you
    >>>at
    >>>> >> >> >McDonalds, not that I go there much, but if I
    >>>> >> >> >do I have the grilled
    >>>> >> >chicken
    >>>> >> >> >without sauce.
    >>>> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >Brenda
    >>>> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>>> >> >> >message news:qe4c40ln12eobqkvfa5m7jav0td9nep-
    >>>> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    >>>> >> >> >> You know, I do not think that I have had a
    >>>> >> >> >> hamburger at all since starting with WW.
    >>>> >> >> >> Maybe, one but I really don't recall any.
    >>>Even
    >>>> >at
    >>>> >> >> >> bbq's I've had either steak, fish or ribs
    >>>> >> >> >> (pre-boiled, so pretty lowfat) At
    >>>> >> >> >> McDonald's on road trips, it has been the
    >>>> >> >> >> chicken
    >>>> >sandwich
    >>>> >> >> >> without sauce
    >>>> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:09:43 -0600, "Miss
    >>>> >> >> >> Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >a burger does sound good, maybe after WI,
    >>>> >> >> >> >I still have all of
    >>>this
    >>>> >> >week's
    >>>> >> >> >> >flex points, Lee skiur
    >>>> >> >> >> ><[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>>> >> >> >> >news:swadnRidaNVN_tjd3cwC-
    >>>> >> >> >> >[email hidden]...
    >>>> >> >> >> >> That is true. Tonight's issue was
    >>>> >> >> >> >> wanting a burger so bad I
    >>>> >could
    >>>> >> >> >taste
    >>>> >> >> >> >it
    >>>> >> >> >> >> and trying to deter myself to something
    >>>> >> >> >> >> healthier. I ended up
    >>>> >with
    >>>> >> >a
    >>>> >> >> >> >burger
    >>>> >> >> >> >> anyway.
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> Half a day OP...that's something.
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> Julie
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> "Miss Violette"
    >>>> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>>> >> >> >> >> message news:c2345d$1od4hh$1@ID-
    >>>> >> >> >> >> 211669.news.uni-berlin.de...
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > But you are examining these issues and
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > that is progress,
    >>>hang
    >>>> >in
    >>>> >> >> >there,
    >>>> >> >> >> >> Lee
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > message news:vq6dnWi6rKPjntnd3cwC-
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > [email hidden]...
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > Hi all,
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > I had a not so good eating day
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > today.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > ..Had to have a phone call with
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > dhv1, afterwhich I feel
    >>>too
    >>>> >> >drained
    >>>> >> >> >> >and
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > hurt. There are still wounds there
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > that haven't healed.
    >>>I
    >>>> >> >don't
    >>>> >> >> >> >think
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > they
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > ever will...the pain will lessen in
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > time and the frequency
    >>>of
    >>>> >> >> >having
    >>>> >> >> >> >to
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > deal
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > with it will decrease too. If I
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > didn't have to talk to
    >>>him
    >>>> >they
    >>>> >> >> >> >> wouldn't
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > be
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > ripped open so frequently. *sigh*
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > Went out to dinner tonight because
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > the emotional drain was
    >>>> >too
    >>>> >> >> >> >> overwelming
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > to cook. The dinner itself went
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > well, but went to Ben &
    >>>> >Jerry's
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > afterwards
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > and had two scoops of ice cream that
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > I didn't enjoy as
    >>>much
    >>>> >as I
    >>>> >> >> >> >thought
    >>>> >> >> >> >> I
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > would. It just didn't satisfy as I
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > thought it would.
    >>>> >> >Originally I
    >>>> >> >> >> >> wanted
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > to go somewhere else for dinner but
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > changed plan due to
    >>>time
    >>>> >> >> >> >limitation.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > I
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > still want the burger I was craving
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > and I think I'll work
    >>>it
    >>>> >in
    >>>> >> >> >later
    >>>> >> >> >> >in
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > the
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > week or on the weekend or something.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > Now I'm feeling uncomfortable
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > because I had too much food
    >>>and
    >>>> >we
    >>>> >> >> >came
    >>>> >> >> >> >> back
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > 2
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > hours ago. This is going to be a
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > long night and tomorrow
    >>>is
    >>>> >> >> >another
    >>>> >> >> >> >day
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > to
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > be OP.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > > Julie
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> > >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >
    >>>>
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