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  1. A couple of weeks ago I mentioned in another thread the latest attempt
    by Suffolk CC to kill cyclists, approved by Sustrans. Yesterday I did a
    quick survey of the site and got some figures.

    The problem is that cyclists heading west on NCN-51 are on a scared use
    path on the Exning Road out of Newmarket, and are directed to get off
    the path and cross the road to join a 1m wide advisory cycle lane when
    they get into Exning. The crossing point is close to the apex of a
    corner (TL 622654 [1]). Visibility in one direction is about 250m, but
    in the other direction it's 40m. So I took a stopwatch and timed how
    long it took between a driver being able to see a cyclist standing at
    the crossing point and actually reaching the crossing point. Or a
    cyclist being able to see a vehicle coming and being hit by it....

    20 timings: min 2.3 seconds, max 3.7 seconds, average 3.0

    These cars, vans and trucks were all either on their own or the leaders
    of a queue: followers in a queue were ignored.

    Of those 20 drivers 2 were on a hand-held mobile phone (and faster than
    average) and 1 was eating...

    So, how do you fancy your chances crossing at that point?

    [1] <http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=tl622654&ll=52.263088,0.375697&spn=0.001845,0.00456&t=k>

    Mike

  2. Mike Causer said:


    in the other direction it's 40m. So I took a stopwatch and timed how
    long it took between a driver being able to see a cyclist standing at
    the crossing point and actually reaching the crossing point. Or a
    cyclist being able to see a vehicle coming and being hit by it....

    20 timings: min 2.3 seconds, max 3.7 seconds, average 3.0

    Sounds an absolute bloody nightmare. Have you bought this to Sustrans',
    council's, etc, attention? And if so, what is their response?

    R.

  3. Richard said:

    Sounds an absolute bloody nightmare. Have you bought this to Sustrans',
    council's, etc, attention?

    Not yet, but I will. I think taking a 400mm lens down there for some
    photos will do a good job of illustrating the problem.

    In practice that crossing is quite unlikely to be used. All the local
    traffic, kids & adults, who were already on the path /before/ it was
    scared use will simply continue on the pavement. Any experienced cyclist
    would be on the perfectly reasonable road anyway.

    Mike

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