It is important to tell the campsite that we all met on the internet and are, therefore, axe murderers. If possible, bring an ice axe to add to the effect.
Some years ago, a friend of mine had a fiat panda with a sticking starter motor which had to be thumped to work. One the way to the Alps, his car stalled in busy traffic in the middle of Grenoble. Of course, the starter motor chose not to work and there was a gap of fractions of a second between his car stalling and the car behind impatiently honking it horn.
So out he gets, lifts the boot - with the car behind still honking furiously - and takes out his ice hammer, which was the best starter motor thumping tool he had with him. With a devilish gleam in his eye, he runs his fingers lovingly and slowly down the pick, then looks the motorist behind directly in the eyes. There was not a single further sound...
I don't think you focused enough on the route planning. Well, we didn't focus on it at all on Exped 15! Anyone who had planned a route was ignored (sorry Roger!) and we split into factions. However, I have "Good Intentions" for Exped 16 and will at least have a quick look at the map beforehand.
I looked at the map, nice accommodation nearby, but all the hills nearby are tall, and although I did some of them about 25 years ago I don't think I could do them again. -- Gordon Harris
The numbers said to be going will rise steadily to a peak, then they will drop out one by one until three actually make it. They will disagree on the route, and go on three separate walks, meeting in the pub in the evening.
I might look in to the pub later on.
I might make it as a weekend with 'the bird', maybe walk the low level route to Glenridding or even Howtown and have a ferry trip. -- Gordon Harris
But yes - it's not as steep as the Hardknott/Wrynose passes.
My poor bus balked at the sight of Hardknott - so we reversed back down.
We went over it in an ancient Austin J2 minibus, laden with about twelve passengers, when I was a kid. I recall a few times when my dad had to hold it with the footbrake while one of us shoved a rock behind the wheel. This happened on the Ulpha road too - he was always reluctant to change down into first gear until it was too late, and ended up stalling.
My long lost brother???
My dad used to stop the Morris 8 at the bottom of a steep hill and make us walk up! On at least one occasion he turned round and reversed up, in the days when reverse gear was lower than first. Nowadays I can do about 70 in reverse if I close my eyes and grit my teeth and put my hands over my ears.. -- Gordon Harris
I don't think you focused enough on the route planning. Well, we didn't focus on it at all on Exped 15! Anyone who had planned a route was ignored (sorry Roger!) and we split into factions. However, I have "Good Intentions" for Exped 16 and will at least have a quick look at the map beforehand.
I looked at the map, nice accommodation nearby, but all the hills nearby are tall, and although I did some of them about 25 years ago I don't think I could do them again.
They are not so tall if you start from the top of the Kirkstone pass, which is about 1500 ft.
> The numbers said to be going will rise steadily to a peak, then they will drop out one by one until three actually make it. They will disagree on the route, and go on three separate walks, meeting in the pub in the evening.
I might look in to the pub later on.
I might make it as a weekend with 'the bird', maybe walk the low level route to Glenridding or even Howtown and have a ferry trip.
There some nice valley walks in the area. At that time of year it could be glorious, hot sun, or wet sleet and nil visibility though!
[email hidden] said... > But yes - it's not as steep as the Hardknott/Wrynose passes. > My poor bus balked at the sight of Hardknott - so we reversed back down.
We went over it in an ancient Austin J2 minibus, laden with about twelve passengers, when I was a kid. I recall a few times when my dad had to hold it with the footbrake while one of us shoved a rock behind the wheel. This happened on the Ulpha road too - he was always reluctant to change down into first gear until it was too late, and ended up stalling.
My long lost brother???
My dad used to stop the Morris 8 at the bottom of a steep hill and make us walk up! On at least one occasion he turned round and reversed up, in the days when reverse gear was lower than first. Nowadays I can do about 70 in reverse if I close my eyes and grit my teeth and put my hands over my ears..
That minibus we had was better in reverse. One of his problems was that changing to first involved double-declutching, and he usually made this last too long!
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:58:36 +0000, Rooney <[email hidden]> wrote:
| On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:33:52 +0000, Gordon Harris | <[email hidden]> wrote: | | >Judith <[email hidden]> writes | >> | >>I don't think you focused enough on the route planning. Well, we | >>didn't focus on it at all on Exped 15! Anyone who had planned a route | >>was ignored (sorry Roger!) and we split into factions. However, I | >>have "Good Intentions" for Exped 16 and will at least have a quick | >>look at the map beforehand. | >> | >I looked at the map, nice accommodation nearby, but all the hills nearby | >are tall, and although I did some of them about 25 years ago I don't | >think I could do them again. | | They are not so tall if you start from the top of the Kirkstone pass, | which is about 1500 ft.
But the campsite is a long way down from the top of the Pass :-(
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I might make it as a weekend with 'the bird', maybe walk the low level route to Glenridding or even Howtown and have a ferry trip.
There are a few small Wainwrights in the area. Arnison Crag at 1424 feet is good value for money and, so it is said, (I did it too long ago to remember the detail) Place Fell at 2154 feet. Glenridding Dodd is only 1425 feet but my memory of that is an unremittingly steep ascent that nearly killed me off when I wasn't prticularly fit.
-- Roger Chapman so far this year 17 summits New - 11 (Marilyns 0, Sweats 1, Outlying Fells 10) Repeats - 6 (Marilyns 1, Sweats 2, Wainwrights 6, Outlying Fells 0)
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Er, what car do you have, Roger? I seem to recall it's got rally bred pedigree + 4x4 drive. You'd be able to overtake a jet fighter in that car. ;-)
It is a 1994 Audi Quatro 2.8 Coupe. Not more than moderately fast by todays standards and distinctly sluggish compared to 2 or 3 of the cars I have had in the past.
-- Roger Chapman so far this year 17 summits New - 11 (Marilyns 0, Sweats 1, Outlying Fells 10) Repeats - 6 (Marilyns 1, Sweats 2, Wainwrights 6, Outlying Fells 0)
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Er, what car do you have, Roger? I seem to recall it's got rally bred pedigree + 4x4 drive. You'd be able to overtake a jet fighter in that car. ;-)
It is a 1994 Audi Quatro 2.8 Coupe. Not more than moderately fast by todays standards and distinctly sluggish compared to 2 or 3 of the cars I have had in the past.
-- Roger Chapman so far this year 17 summits New - 11 (Marilyns 0, Sweats 1, Outlying Fells 10) Repeats - 6 (Marilyns 1, Sweats 2, Wainwrights 6, Outlying Fells 0)
Slightly faster then my old Vauxhall Nova 1 litre, 4 speed, Roger. Actually I'm not too keen on my 1.5 Almera at the moment and I'm thinking more along the lines of a 2 lt Diesel hopefully soon (unless I get the sack - but I'm never that lucky!)
Jhimmy.
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It is a 1994 Audi Quatro 2.8 Coupe. Not more than moderately fast by todays standards and distinctly sluggish compared to 2 or 3 of the cars I have had in the past.
-- Roger Chapman so far this year 17 summits New - 11 (Marilyns 0, Sweats 1, Outlying Fells 10) Repeats - 6 (Marilyns 1, Sweats 2, Wainwrights 6, Outlying Fells 0)
Slightly faster then my old Vauxhall Nova 1 litre, 4 speed, Roger. Actually I'm not too keen on my 1.5 Almera at the moment and I'm thinking more along the lines of a 2 lt Diesel hopefully soon (unless I get the sack - but I'm never that lucky!)
Jhimmy.
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It is a 1994 Audi Quatro 2.8 Coupe. Not more than moderately fast by todays standards and distinctly sluggish compared to 2 or 3 of the cars I have had in the past.
-- Roger Chapman so far this year 17 summits New - 11 (Marilyns 0, Sweats 1, Outlying Fells 10) Repeats - 6 (Marilyns 1, Sweats 2, Wainwrights 6, Outlying Fells 0)
I looked at the map, nice accommodation nearby, but all the hills nearby are tall, and although I did some of them about 25 years ago I don't think I could do them again.
They are not so tall if you start from the top of the Kirkstone pass, which is about 1500 ft.
What's the parking like at teh top of teh Kirkstone Pass?
Christ! I've got a bad case of Adny's! -- Gordon Harris
